Verbal Kint;1873452 wrote:Those are sponsored by Post, Kellogg (please know those two guys life story, amazing), Monsanto.




After changing to this type of energy source, my blood test number are better than ever. My weight (with more muscle mass) is the same as high school senior year when I was very active. I am stronger than I have ever been. I feel better than I ever have. The worst thing about fueling like this is having to buy new pants along the process.

It is contrary to everything that we have been told. I took awhile for me to understand how and why. I am glad I listened.

Well things keep evolving and it takes 3- 5 years for research to make it back into mainstream. I attended a nutrition seminar last January., and my take out it was that the numbers only tell a part of the story..... you can have great numbers on cholesterol and still have developing heart disease. Inflammation and genetics are on the cutting edge of the research. While 'fats' have been downgraded as cardiovascular risks, red meat and egg yolks are back on the table for risk, not because of their fat content, but because of substances they contain that are pro-inflammatory which links to not only heart disease but cancer. there probably is a reason that guys who consume a lot of red meat have a high incidence of cardiovascular disease...it apparently is not the fat or the cholesterol, but may be due to the substances that they inherently contain.
Some interesting genetic tests coming down the pike... in terms of markers that can help early diagnosis and risk....which may help to explain why people in apparently good health and fitness and with good diets, have heart attacks at a relatively young age.

I am not saying that you're wrong, or that you should change what is working for you....just keep your ears to the ground.

HitsRus;1873604 wrote:and egg yolks are back on the table for risk, not because of their fat content, but because of substances they contain that are pro-inflammatory which links to not only heart disease but cancer. there probably is a reason that guys who consume a lot of red meat have a high incidence of cardiovascular disease...it apparently is not the fat or the cholesterol, but may be due to the substances that they inherently contain.

I am not saying that you're wrong, or that you should change what is working for you....just keep your ears to the ground.

First I've seen this, has anything been published yet? I fully understand that my epidemiological study is a sample size of one.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/2014/11/researchers-find-new-link-between-red-meat-and-heart-disease-video/
https://healthletter.mayoclinic.com/editorial/editorial.cfm/i/163/t/Buzzed%20on%20inflammation/
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/2017/02/protein-4-worst-ways-to-beef-up-your-diet/

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/2015/05/your-diet-and-heart-disease-rethinking-butter-beef-and-bacon/
This one particularly addresses meat and eggs.
I think the overall consensus is that we don't have to avoid red meats entirely, but not to overdo them either.
BR listed some healthier ways to consume meat/bacon if you are going to eat them, such as grass fed vs grain fed beef, and unprocessed, uncured bacon.
Pesco -vegetarian diets (A.K.A. Mediterranean) may be the healthiest option.
A note on fish...they were quick to stress that there is a huge difference between wild caught and "Farm raised" ( kind of like grass fed /grain fed beef).

Thank you. I agree with most of what I read. I note that the Mayo clinic is advocating canola oil??? I think I am probably 80% EVOO, 15% butter (sauté onions and peppers), 5% coconut oil (reheat protein) for cooking.

Another good oil to cook with is Avocado oil... it has the highest smoke point of any oil... Which reduces the likelihood of overheating and oxidizing which EVOO is vulnerable to. It is not much more expensive either.

Anyone have a rowing machine? What are some necessary features you'd recommend. What is the minimum price to get something worthwhile?

Thanks

Not a fan.

Ironman92;1873986 wrote:Anyone have a rowing machine? What are some necessary features you'd recommend. What is the minimum price to get something worthwhile?

Thanks

I've added in day or 2 per week on the rowing machine at the gym. I enjoy the total body aspect plus it good cardio and low impact. The issue is that it is terribly boring.

I have no purchasing advice to offer.

TBone14;1880061 wrote:I've added in day or 2 per week on the rowing machine at the gym. I enjoy the total body aspect plus it good cardio and low impact. The issue is that it is terribly boring.

I have no purchasing advice to offer.

This. 5 min on the damn thing and I'm ready to commit and I contemplate breaking my own leg so I can stop.

Commander of Awesome;1880062 wrote:This. 5 min on the damn thing and I'm ready to commit and I contemplate breaking my own leg so I can stop.

Not if you get the one from the 90's with the video game, where you race rowing teams.

I've added in day or 2 per week on the rowing machine at the gym. I enjoy the total body aspect plus it good cardio and low impact. The issue is that it is terribly boring.

Not ever having access to a rowing machine ( so correct me if I'm wrong), but I would think this would lend itself to HIIT, which IMO would solve the "boring" part.
You could do a 6-8 minute session, avoiding the long stretches of having to keep your mind occupied. Between watching the clock for time, and focusing on pushing yourself 80-90% of max during the intense intervals, you shouldn't have much time to get bored.

HitsRus;1880104 wrote:Not ever having access to a rowing machine ( so correct me if I'm wrong), but I would think this would lend itself to HIIT, which IMO would solve the "boring" part.
You could do a 6-8 minute session, avoiding the long stretches of having to keep your mind occupied. Between watching the clock for time, and focusing on pushing yourself 80-90% of max during the intense intervals, you shouldn't have much time to get bored.

Agree with that. I haven't used it for it HIIT yet, though. I literally just sat on the machine for the 1st time last week. I want to make sure my form is on point so I don't injure myself in a high intensity setting.

So I've been trying to groove 15 or 20 minutes and thus...boring.

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HitsRus;1880104 wrote:Not ever having access to a rowing machine ( so correct me if I'm wrong), but I would think this would lend itself to HIIT, which IMO would solve the "boring" part.
You could do a 6-8 minute session, avoiding the long stretches of having to keep your mind occupied. Between watching the clock for time, and focusing on pushing yourself 80-90% of max during the intense intervals, you shouldn't have much time to get bored.

Did a HIIT session on the rowing machine today. Your hypothesis was correct. Not as boring. Ended up being a 10 minute session with a warmup and 8 intervals. Did the cool down walking the treadmill. My current physical situation is bleak. I am hurting in places I didn't know existed (good pain I think). You definitely know you did something after you have done the rowing machine.

^^^Good luck with your goals. A good HIIT workout 5 times a week can facilitate weight loss, but it's all for naught if you don't control diet. Aim for consistency and repeatability in both diet and exercise. You want to be able to do what you're doing for ever. Lose the useless carbs and the sugar. Nothing sabotages a diet like pop and pizza or chips. Yeah, you can have these very occasionally, BUT ONLY AFTER YOU REACH YOUR WEIGHT GOAL. And no cheat days either until you reach your goal. It's funny though, after a week or two off the sugar/carbs, you lose the taste for them, and it becomes easier....and psychologically reinforced when you see the results on the scale.

Having a lackluster few day stretch of working out. Really wish my legs would cooperate with my running but I've been having issues with shin splints. Just can't find another aerobic exercise (rowing, elliptical, biking, swimming, stairmaster) that I enjoy as much as running.

friendfromlowry;1880720 wrote:Having a lackluster few day stretch of working out. Really wish my legs would cooperate with my running but I've been having issues with shin splints. Just can't find another aerobic exercise (rowing, elliptical, biking, swimming, stairmaster) that I enjoy as much as running.

I also had/have issues with running. I really got into stretching and foam roller and that fixed most of my issues. Other things to look into is how you're running, look into running form and try to slowly incorporate proper form into your exercise. Really helps.

HitsRus;1880716 wrote:^^^Good luck with your goals. A good HIIT workout 5 times a week can facilitate weight loss, but it's all for naught if you don't control diet. Aim for consistency and repeatability in both diet and exercise. You want to be able to do what you're doing for ever. Lose the useless carbs and the sugar. Nothing sabotages a diet like pop and pizza or chips. Yeah, you can have these very occasionally, BUT ONLY AFTER YOU REACH YOUR WEIGHT GOAL. And no cheat days either until you reach your goal. It's funny though, after a week or two off the sugar/carbs, you lose the taste for them, and it becomes easier....and psychologically reinforced when you see the results on the scale.

Thanks for the advice. I try to create a large calorie deficit on good days so when the wheels come off for a day on a weekend...it isn't a total killer. So far so good. I'm down about 40 since May.

Just finishing up the 50 pounds in 50 days bench press program. I applied the principals to preacher curls instead of bench. Not quite as effective. Took my preacher curl from 150 to 185 in seven weeks though.