On Jun 27, 2022:
posted by supermanWhat if monkeys fly out of your ass? Our Constitution is the framework for a country that went from a group of backwoods farmers to the most powerful country the world has ever know in less than 200 years. It's obviously not detrimental to survival.
A bit has changed over the time period, eh?
posted by majorsparkI'm guessing no tax payer has ever beat on their local high school football coach's door to bitch about taxes and spending policy.
No but most think he answers to them since they “pay his salary”
posted by kizer permanenteNo I'm telling you if you didn't go to optional workouts that werent really optional you weren't going to play lol.. or did you not play football?
For a moment of lulz, this made me think about this video:
Football coaches when you miss an “optional” workout @theAIRapp pic.twitter.com/ayiPeKGpX9
— Brenden Clinton (@MrGo30) June 22, 2022
posted by queencitybuckeyePerhaps, but the point of the BOR is that those rights aren't ours to give or deny. They come from a higher power (and no, it doesn't matter what one's specific belief is as to what that higher power is).
True…
Would you say that’s a good thing though? If your constitution was detrimental to survival? At what point would you change it? I get we can’t empirically say it is as it’s nuanced. But just as a hypothetical. Would you be open to abandoning certain rights?
posted by QuakerOats
and it begins ....
Aww… don’t have Trumpy to impose tariffs to bail them out anymore?
posted by majorsparkLike who sees the coach of a football team at a local school district as a representative of the state.
The tax payers, I’m guessing
posted by majorsparkIts pretty clear Kizer was one of those guys that did not go the optional workouts and sat bewildered at the end of the bench during the season.
Family full of coaches in baseball basketball and football. I never wasn’t somewhere, Mr Google .
posted by like_thatIf we are going by anecdotes, I went to public school and coached at public schools. Not to mention competed/coaches against both public and private (I am sure you did as well). Never once did I see anyone get forced into prayer. You’re making this case seem like it will lead to some grand pray to play scheme.
If you want to argue that the coach is a douche for doing it so publicly, go for it. That’s your opinion. As for the case, it should have been 9-0, regardless of who he was praying for.
I can see your point and agree with you I guess
posted by like_thatAnd if we are doing whataboutism, there is no doubt that you and gblock would be celebrating if this case were about taking a knee during the anthem. Try to be consistent for me, just once.
I don't see how that case could ever make it to Supreme Court? This did by separation of church and state.
posted by like_thatYeah, no shit. Did you play football? Team prayers are very common on most teams (not just in football). I’m on board with you if he actually coerced them into doing it, but something tells me that every HS athletic team isn’t being coerced to pray for playing time. Like I said, this is up there with qo and cc faux outrage.
I went to parochial schools so of course we did. Public school is a different animal though. My former coach lost his job at a public school for it. And not saying this guy would.. but also not saying a guy who makes it a point to go to mid field to pray so everyone can see him pray wouldn't.
posted by like_thatSo, then you would be ok with it?
I'm ok with either as long as you're fired for actually coercing players or punishing them by not going.
I personally wouldn't put myself in the position to be accused of it to begin with b/c I'm not stupid though?
posted by like_that
You’re telling me instead of relying on my ability to get a full ride in football, all I had to do was join the team prayer? Smfh.
No I'm telling you if you didn't go to optional workouts that werent really optional you weren't going to play lol.. or did you not play football?
posted by like_thatCure headline by CNN. This is up here with the faux cc and Quaker outrage. If he isn’t forcing players to pray with him, what is the issue?
This happens at public schools all the time for most sports and it’s normally voluntary, if not there would be serious issues.
The fact it even made it to the SCOTUS is a joke regardless if he was praising Jesus or Muhammad.
the issue is the point i brought up.. you have an authority figure leading prayer. Off season workouts are optional too.. you just don't play if you don't go to them.
posted by geeblockIm sure there would be no uproar if this was a muslim prayer
I can't wait for it lol. Muslim coaches bringing out a prayer rug to midfield and old ladies gasping for air as they faint.
posted by queencitybuckeye
The part I don't get is why it matters Even if a right yields a net negative to society, it's still a right.
I mean... thats kinda counter productive to every tenet of a functioning society and evolution in general, no?
posted by jmogSo the SCOTUS proved its Freedom OF Religion and not Freedom FROM Religion.
Uh huh. This SCOTUS is bound an determined to prove to everyone it seems?
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/27/politics/football-coach-prayer-high-school-supreme-court-kennedy/index.html
Don't worry guys.. the praying is optional. Just like the optional workouts.
posted by HereticI mean, it wasn't that long ago that I saw a president struggle mightily to walk down a ramp and also nearly botch lifting a glass of water, but I don't recall you clutching at pearls then.
No. They put him on a flag dressed as Rambo after that.
posted by gutLOL... You've not presented an actual counter-argument. Ad hominem attack, mental diarrhea on display.
And I didn't say "pOoR pEoPlE sHoUld uSE tHeIr hEAlTh InSuRaNce FoR bIrTh CoNtRol". Rather, you proved my point that idiots like you can't be bothered to read. You misunderstand something and your brain instantly shuts off...emotions go to Defcon 0.111. And then you flame people with stupidity.
You've done this over and over. You are so over the top triggered that you can't even read and process coherently what people are saying.
Take a timeout. A lot of deep breaths. And then some more time. Then re-read what's actually being said before proceeding to bukkake the board with your random incoherences.
The problem is you live in a world where you think everyone has the same wealth and access like you. I can't help you think like a little kid. You offer simple solutions b/c that's the terms you like to think in. "Well people should just do this b/c that's what I'd do and it's easy for me". There isn't a debate for someone who thinks like you who doesn't live in anyone else's reality. So I'll let you carry on believing everyone has access to everything you have and should just do what you'd do. You've formed your entire viewpoints off that.
On Jun 26, 2022:
posted by iclfan2Guys, a non viable or ectopic pregnancy is not abortion. Yes some morons in the Ohio house tried to bring up something stupid, but it obviously had no legs(Kizer was correct). The point of 99% of abortion issues are for the people who want to use it as birth control. Yes, no one pregnant from incest or rape should have to bring a child into this world.
The problem is there’s a large portion of the right that take hard line stances and don’t agree with you. That’s why we see this legislation try to be pushed thru. Now they have essentially the backing of the SCOTUS