I'm not using that stat, you are. I'm using UZR and if I have to, DRS (defensive runs saved). Sorry that you're an old school guy who refuses to acknowledge that sometimes the numbers invalidate the eye test.Ironman92;1455765 wrote: No ****ing way Gardner has produced more defensive wins above his replacement.
Lol so you use their stuff for your argument, then don't defend it when it's called out?lhslep134;1455763 wrote:I'm using Fangraphs. Go bitch to them if you're upset that WAR chooses Santana over Hanigan.
You still harping on that? I conceded that argument 20 posts ago.lhslep134;1455763 wrote:I'm using Fangraphs. Go bitch to them if you're upset that WAR chooses Santana over Hanigan.
Fangraphs' reputation speaks for itself. I don't need to defend something that doesn't need defended. Obviously that went over your head, and I don't even mean that in the douchiest way possible, it really just went over your head.SportsAndLady;1455770 wrote:Lol so you use their stuff for your argument, then don't defend it when it's called out?
I92 isn't an old school guy. Just because you're older than 35, doesn't mean you're old school.lhslep134;1455768 wrote:I'm not using that stat, you are. I'm using UZR and if I have to, DRS (defensive runs saved). Sorry that you're an old school guy who refuses to acknowledge that sometimes the numbers invalidate the eye test.
You know who else was like that? Lionel Hollins, and now he's out of a job.
lolCommander of Awesome;1455305 wrote:Also a few minor league prospects we have.
It didn't at all. I92 and SE are tearing down your stupid WAR stat, and your argument is to bitch to Fangraph if they don't like it.lhslep134;1455774 wrote:Fangraphs' reputation speaks for itself. I don't need to defend something that doesn't need defended. Obviously that went over your head, and I don't even mean that in the douchiest way possible, it really just went over your head.
Because he can't cover as much ground. The numbers speak for themselves, as well.SportsAndLady;1455785 wrote:
Defend it..lets hear it. Why Lep thinks Torii hunter isn't as valuable in 16k games than Brett gardner at 4k. Should be good..
Oh I'm just observing this (and enjoying it very much).lhslep134;1455787 wrote:Because he can't cover as much ground.
What's your argument against what the numbers say?!
UZR deals with "theoretical" runs. These advanced stats you love so much are theoretical more than they are actual. I'll take the hard number stats any day of the week. Call it old school if you want.lhslep134;1455787 wrote:Because he can't cover as much ground.
What's your argument against what the numbers say?!
Well okay then I don't feel bad for calling you a POS troll on this thread, and I'd like to add a go f*ck yourself for good measureSportsAndLady;1455790 wrote:Oh I'm just observing this (and enjoying it very much).
I just had to chime in, couldn't resist.
I don't need to call it that, that's what it is called.se-alum;1455794 wrote:Call it old school if you want.
I saw there was a fight too. How much does a KO raise your WAR?Terry_Tate;1455806 wrote:Ben Zobrist just had his first career 5 hit game. WAR just said **** all y'all.
lhslep134;1455802 wrote:Well okay then I don't feel bad for calling you a POS troll on this thread, and I'd like to add a go f*ck yourself for good measure
Haha he's not, he's just a utilityman with everyday starter's skills which makes him stupidly valuable.SportsAndLady;1455811 wrote:Lol that's fine. Still don't agree with your saber metrics. Only stat nerds would agree Ben Zobrist is an unstoppable force.
No he didn'tTerry_Tate;1455815 wrote:Brett Gardner had a higher WAR than Joey Votto in 2010. Whether you're a WAR fan or not that gets a big fat LOL.
War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Uh-huh
War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again, y'all