Career numbers (WAR)se-alum;1455613 wrote:My argument on the catchers was that Hanigan is a heck of a catcher and his career numbers prove it, but lhs wanted to look at this year only, so I conceded the catcher argument, and looked at this years numbers only for the pitchers.
se-alum;1455694 wrote:How about this:
CF Bourn
2B Phillips
1B Votto
DH Swisher
RF Bruce
SS Cabrera
C Santana
3B Reynolds
LF Choo
Azubuike24;1455712 wrote:Forget the team arguments. Would there be series' threads or game threads?
Drarby would come back and create a thread per inning. Hed also have 10,000 posts by game 4.Azubuike24;1455712 wrote:Forget the team arguments. Would there be series' threads or game threads?
Azubuike24;1455712 wrote:Forget the team arguments. Would there be series' threads or game threads?
Neg reps for ignorance to advanced stats? Is this 1990?SportsAndLady;1455723 wrote:Reps to azu for that one.
Someone neg lep for thinking people actually care about something called WAR.
Only other option might be Choo.SportsAndLady;1455708 wrote:Because of a lot of reasons. But mainly because there are viable options in the 9 spot. Another reason is you're trying to fit a player perfectly into the 9 spot, in the meantime leaving out a top 5 hitter on this "team".
Lol THAT!Laley23;1455728 wrote:And what makes Bruce a top 5 hitter? Just curious. He drives in 100 and hits 30 HRs.
Considering his position versatility, he's one of the most valuable, which is what the stat measures.Ironman92;1455730 wrote:
Ben Zobrist is not one of the best players the past few seasons.
Is Gardner so much more versatile?Ironman92;1455737 wrote:Also great that Brett Gardner in his 6 seasons has been responsible for more wins on defense than Torii Hunter and Carlos Beltran.
Well what does that say? That Torii has more highlight plays but Gardner is a better fielder. Can't digest that?!Ironman92;1455737 wrote:Also great that Brett Gardner in his 6 seasons has been responsible for more wins on defense than Torii Hunter and Carlos Beltran.
Ironman92;1455730 wrote:WAR sucks.
Chase Utley is 140 spots higher on the career list than Don Mattingly.
I love Utley's game on both sides....but no way has he produced more wins above his replacement than guys with 1,000 more hits or 750 more RBI
Ben Zobrist is not one of the best players the past few seasons.
lhslep134;1455745 wrote:Well what does that say? That Torii has more highlight plays but Gardner is a better fielder. Can't digest that?!
Hunter has long been held up as an example of the questionable viability of defensive metrics by those who prefer visual analysis. His reputation is that of one of the game’s best outfielders, yet UZR has ranked him below average in CF for each of the last five years. The advanced metrics don’t think he’s terrible, just not anything special.
The Angels apparently agree, or at least don’t disagree very strongly. If they saw the difference between Bourjos and Hunter as minimal, they wouldn’t have bothered to upset the apple cart by shifting Hunter over in favor of the rookie. They’re taking the risk of offending their highest paid player, which isn’t something an organization does on a whim. That Hunter is moving to right to accommodate Bourjos, and not vice versa, is a pretty good sign that the Angels believe that there’s a big gap in defensive value between the two.
I think they’re correct, and they should be applauded for making a bold move that may not be particularly popular in some circles.
I'm using Fangraphs. Go bitch to them if you're upset that WAR chooses Santana over Hanigan.se-alum;1455758 wrote:There isn't even a standard calculation for WAR.