Curly J;1357935 wrote:You never put partial blame on the victim? So you really need or want me, or someone else, to show you your posts where you did? You must be loosing your mind. Add lying to your list of sins, sinner.

I know what I said. I never blamed her for the rape. What I was trying to say (and apparently failed) is that she is a troubled person with big problems. Her parents clearly taught her nothing because she made some incredibly poor decisions. She set herself up so royally to be raped that it would have been amazing if she hadn't been. She did not deserve to be raped, despite her behavior, and I am not taking any guilt away from the boys. If they're guilty, I hope they rot in jail. But I think the girl needs help. If she were my daughter, I would put her in rehab so she can dry out and learn to behave.

I regret calling her a drunken whore. That was a bit too harsh and for that I apologize. But I still think she needs rehab. I hope she gets it.

TLDR, please vanish already you piece of shit.

GoChiefs;1357881 wrote:Get the **** out of here little kid.

Little? Oh please. :rolleyes:

FairwoodKing;1357965 wrote:I know what I said. I never blamed her for the rape. What I was trying to say (and apparently failed) is that she is a troubled person with big problems. Her parents clearly taught her nothing because she made some incredibly poor decisions. She set herself up so royally to be raped that it would have been amazing if she hadn't been. She did not deserve to be raped, despite her behavior, and I am not taking any guilt away from the boys. If they're guilty, I hope they rot in jail. But I think the girl needs help. If she were my daughter, I would put her in rehab so she can dry out and learn to behave.

I regret calling her a drunken whore. That was a bit too harsh and for that I apologize. But I still think she needs rehab. I hope she gets it.

You're clearly a fucking idiot and you are obviously so far out of touch with reality on how most high school kids behave. Christ. Thank god you're a ****. I'd hate to think that you might have actually reproduced.

My call to the Lantern took care of Nodiamos and believe me I'm looking forwrd to seeing him in prison orange.

Tiernan;1357978 wrote:My call to the Lantern took care of Nodiamos and believe me I'm looking forwrd to seeing him in prison orange.

According to OSU, he hasn't been enrolled since December 12th. Long before any of this came to light.

GoChiefs;1357973 wrote:You're clearly a ****ing idiot and you are obviously so far out of touch with reality on how most high school kids behave. Christ. Thank god you're a ****. I'd hate to think that you might have actually reproduced.

All I know is how I was brought up, and it wasn't anything like this. These kids are pathetic.

FairwoodKing;1357983 wrote:All I know is how I was brought up, and it wasn't anything like this. These kids are pathetic.

You're a ghey with wheels for legs.

Things didnt exactly work out with your upbringing.

FairwoodKing;1357983 wrote:All I know is how I was brought up, and it wasn't anything like this. These kids are pathetic.

Tramp, drunken whore, and now she's pathetic too? You're such a piece of shit.

FairwoodKing;1357983 wrote:All I know is how I was brought up, and it wasn't anything like this. These kids are pathetic.

If you're saying what I think you're saying, then you were brought up to be condescending, naive, and judgmental of victims.

FairwoodKing;1357965 wrote:I know what I said. I never blamed her for the rape. What I was trying to say (and apparently failed) is that she is a troubled person with big problems. Her parents clearly taught her nothing because she made some incredibly poor decisions. She set herself up so royally to be raped that it would have been amazing if she hadn't been. She did not deserve to be raped, despite her behavior, and I am not taking any guilt away from the boys. If they're guilty, I hope they rot in jail. But I think the girl needs help. If she were my daughter, I would put her in rehab so she can dry out and learn to behave.

I regret calling her a drunken whore. That was a bit too harsh and for that I apologize. But I still think she needs rehab. I hope she gets it.

Here is the accounts of the night so far so please explain to me what she did wrong?

After being convinced, with some amount of coaxing – to attend the parties that night with the “Rape Crew” by by Mark Cole’s girlfriend Santoro, Jane Doe was picked up at a volley ball team party she was attending in the early evening of August 11th and transported in a vehicle with Richmond, Mays and Cole in it. Jane Doe was administered a “date rape” drug snuck into her drink almost immediately, possibly while still in the vehicle enroute to the nights “festivities”. In any case, she has no memories after being picked up. The first party of the night was at the home of Assistant Coach Rick Cameletti, where Michael Nodianos, Charlie Keenan, Cody Saltsman, and Anthony Craig were already engaged in heavy drinking and drug use. At this location Jane Doe was raped multiple times by Richmond and Mays and at least two other assailants from the “Rape Crew”. At that point the &#8220arty” went on the move. They first stopped at another Assistant Coach’s home, Coach Belerdine. Belardine was not at home but his son and daughter were. Jane Doe was again sexually assaulted at this party. They hit the road again with an unconscious Jane Doe in tow. While en route to Mark Cole’s house, Jane was again raped and sodomized in the back seat of a vehicle – and this was video recorded by Mark Cole who was in the front seat. Her attackers in the car were again Mays and Richmond. Once they arrived at Mark Cole’s house Jane Doe was carried to the basement where she was again raped multiple times by multiple attackers, one of which was Michael Nodianos. Finally, having sated themselves and exhausted any further entertainment that Jane Doe could provide for these animals, she was unceremoniously dumped (still unconscious) onto the front lawn of the Cole residence – where at least one member of the “Rape Crew” proceeded to urinate on her.

December 12 was the end of the semester - Nodi went underground when the Lantern contacted him thanks to you know who. Actually channel 9 in Steubenv ille beat me to it. Either way this fucker is going down along with Reno and quite possibly the entire football program

FairwoodKing;1357965 wrote:I know what I said. I never blamed her for the rape. What I was trying to say (and apparently failed) is that she is a troubled person with big problems. Her parents clearly taught her nothing because she made some incredibly poor decisions. She set herself up so royally to be raped that it would have been amazing if she hadn't been. She did not deserve to be raped, despite her behavior, and I am not taking any guilt away from the boys. If they're guilty, I hope they rot in jail. But I think the girl needs help. If she were my daughter, I would put her in rehab so she can dry out and learn to behave.

I regret calling her a drunken whore. That was a bit too harsh and for that I apologize. But I still think she needs rehab. I hope she gets it.

I'm in too good of a mood tonight to go back and show you the posts where you said she was also to blame. I'll wait until I'm hungover tomorrow watching the Anon Protest in your beloved town.

I'll even find my scenario post which you decided to not answer/overlook. Maybe you'll answer it this time. Or should I PM it to you since it will prove how wrong your thinking is on this matter. You've already showed your ass enough.

bases_loaded;1357987 wrote:You're a ghey with wheels for legs.

Things didnt exactly work out with your upbringing.

You're an idiot. I inherited a bad back from my mother. That had nothing to do with my upbringing. I'm kind to a lot of people and they are kind to me. I get along just fine. I can walk, BTW, but I use the wheelchair as a convenience.

As far as being gay is concerned, I'm no longer sexually active but I've had some fun in my time. I never caught an STD. I never raped anybody. And I never put myself in a position to be raped. I took care of myself because how my parents taught me.

This whole thing got started when I posted a thread titled "How does Steubenville heal?" I expressed my opinion that the biggest reason why it is going to be hard for everything to heal is because everybody-- and I mean EVERYBODY-- connected to this case is guilty of something. There are no innocent victims, including the girl. I then went through a laundry list of what the boys had done, what the girl had done, what their parents had done, what Reno had done, and on and on. My only mistake was to call the girl a drunken whore. By definition, that's what she is, but I never should have said that and I have apologized.

Let me ask you a question and please be honest in your response. If I walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town and get mugged, can't you put at least some of the blame on me for being there in the first place? This girl went to an under-age drinking party (which in itself was a violation of the law for which she could be arrested) and drank so much she passed out. It was her misfortune that there were some boys there who couldn't behave and had no regard for the law.

Let me phrase this yet a different way. I blame the boys 95% for the rape and if found guilty, I hope they become some Big Bubba's boy toy. But I'm blaming the girl 5% for being so incredibly stupid that she would get herself in a mess like this in the first place.

I hope Steubenville will heal quickly but I don't see it happening. There are just too many factors involved. We will just to wait and see what happens.

FairwoodKing;1358018 wrote:
Let me phrase this yet a different way. I blame the boys 95% for the rape and if found guilty, I hope they become some Big Bubba's boy toy. But I'm blaming the girl 5% for being so incredibly stupid that she would get herself in a mess like this in the first place.

Thank you for saving me the work. The only person to blame for rape is the rapist(s). No one deserves to be raped because she was drunk, or lied, or had on a certain outfit, or for being a woman.

Fwk, do you have ANY idea how many HS/college aged kids, boy or girl, get drunk and pass out? Are they all susceptible to rape, and if raped, should be 5% blamed?

Fucking Christ, fwk. She's 0% at fault. ZERO PERCENT.

And WHY THE FUCK does she need rehab? Just bc she got drunk? FUCK! YOU!

How in the hell did I miss FWK until now? GFY you scumbag dynasty POS.

FairwoodKing;1358018 wrote: There are no innocent victims, including the girl. I then went through a laundry list of what the boys had done, what the girl had done, what their parents had done, what Reno had done, and on and on. My only mistake was to call the girl a drunken whore. By definition, that's what she is, but I never should have said that and I have apologized.

Let me ask you a question and please be honest in your response. If I walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town and get mugged, can't you put at least some of the blame on me for being there in the first place? This girl went to an under-age drinking party (which in itself was a violation of the law for which she could be arrested) and drank so much she passed out. It was her misfortune that there were some boys there who couldn't behave and had no regard for the law.

Let me phrase this yet a different way. I blame the boys 95% for the rape and if found guilty, I hope they become some Big Bubba's boy toy. But I'm blaming the girl 5% for being so incredibly stupid that she would get herself in a mess like this in the first place.

I hope Steubenville will heal quickly but I don't see it happening. There are just too many factors involved. We will just to wait and see what happens.

Hmm you really dont get it do you? Read what I just posted above you and rewrite this whole statement please. You really need to seek help.

The more you post, the more you appear to be an even bigger pile of shit. Probably got that bad back from being bent over so much. Now you use a wheelchair for sympathy.

mtp2013;1357789 wrote:Go play in traffic. You and FWK.

You go play in traffic dipshit. You and FWK.

Here is more of the article so it will clear more of the night up for you FairwoodKing.

"Mark Cole: Mark is one of Cody Saltsman’s best friends. Together with Saltsman, they are the ones who hatched the plot to lure the victim to the parties where she was viciously assaulted. Mark agreed to convince his girlfriend Makenzie Santoro to lure the victim to these parties because she was friends with the victim. Make no mistake, their intent was to do her harm as revenge for the victim having broken up with Saltsman. It is unlikely that Cole committed any of the multiple rapes on the victim, as both he and Santoro (his girlfriend) were together through out the entire episode. They are however BOTH guilty of accessory and conspiracy to commit rape and kidnapping.
We have received an extraordinary set of particular leaks from a number of young people in Steubenville who were witness to various parts of this horrendous crime. From this material, we have been able to piece together a timeline of events on that fateful night in August 2012. During this description, we will refer to the victim as “Jane Doe”.After being convinced, with some amount of coaxing – to attend the parties that night with the “Rape Crew” by by Mark Cole’s girlfriend Santoro, Jane Doe was picked up at a volley ball team party she was attending in the early evening of August 11th and transported in a vehicle with Richmond, Mays and Cole in it. Jane Doe was administered a “date rape” drug snuck into her drink almost immediately, possibly while still in the vehicle enroute to the nights “festivities”. In any case, she has no memories after being picked up. The first party of the night was at the home of Assistant Coach Rick Cameletti, where Michael Nodianos, Charlie Keenan, Cody Saltsman, and Anthony Craig were already engaged in heavy drinking and drug use. At this location Jane Doe was raped multiple times by Richmond and Mays and at least two other assailants from the “Rape Crew”. At that point the &#8220arty” went on the move. They first stopped at another Assistant Coach’s home, Coach Belerdine. Belardine was not at home but his son and daughter were. Jane Doe was again sexually assaulted at this party. They hit the road again with an unconscious Jane Doe in tow. While en route to Mark Cole’s house, Jane was again raped and sodomized in the back seat of a vehicle – and this was video recorded by Mark Cole who was in the front seat. Her attackers in the car were again Mays and Richmond. Once they arrived at Mark Cole’s house Jane Doe was carried to the basement where she was again raped multiple times by multiple attackers, one of which was Michael Nodianos. Finally, having sated themselves and exhausted any further entertainment that Jane Doe could provide for these animals, she was unceremoniously dumped (still unconscious) onto the front lawn of the Cole residence – where at least one member of the “Rape crew"

He has no interest in the truth mcburg. He wants to be able to blame the girl.

Absolutely disgusting. I can't think of many worse things to happen to a human being.

GoChiefs;1358039 wrote:He has no interest in the truth mcburg. He wants to be able to blame the girl.

Its fucking sickening that he thinks like he does. Ugggg. I am going for another drink.

The shithole known as Steubenville Big Red is done.