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like_that;1405054 wrote:I guess the way I typed that post it made it seem like you guys always predict them to be in the playoffs. I just meant it as Deydurkie always predicts them to be in the playoffs.

they will be in it this year. I'm super serial this time.

Panthers expected to keep Derek Anderson

Had no idea that Talib & Fred Davis had Cleveland ties...

I worry about Talib and his ability to stay out of prison.

BR1986FB;1405099 wrote: Fred Davis had Cleveland ties...

He's from Toledo, Rogers I think, saw him play in high school, hope his work ethic has improved.

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter Former 49ers S Dashon Goldson agreed to terms on a five-year deal with Tampa Bay. Really. We're sure.

There goes that pipe dream

IF we stay at 6 and arent taking defense, I want Smith or Warmack. If they find a way to trade down, I'd be happy with a FS or TE. Chud and Norv are known for using their TEs.

Whats the love fest with Manuel? Dude was an average QB in college.

Pick6;1405158 wrote: Whats the love fest with Manuel? Dude was an average QB in college.

I'd rather use a 3rd rounder (if he falls) on a project QB who can sit and learn than use a #6 pick on a QB that shouldn't be taken until the 20's, will start immediately, and likely keep this viscious "QB carousel" going..

BR1986FB;1405165 wrote:I'd rather use a 3rd rounder (if he falls) on a project QB who can sit and learn than use a #6 pick on a QB that shouldn't be taken until the 20's, will start immediately, and likely keep this viscious "QB carousel" going..

Not to start a QB debate, but its quite the opposite opinion you had last draft. Smith definitely isnt my first choice for the pick, just threw out a hypothetical situation.

Pick6;1405183 wrote:Not to start a QB debate, but its quite the opposite opinion you had last draft. Smith definitely isnt my first choice for the pick, just threw out a hypothetical situation.

Wasn't saying Smith was your first choice.

Different situation this year. We have a QB who has all of the physical tools to get the job done. It's just a matter of whether that light bulb goes on. Going into last years draft, we didn't have the QB (see Colt McCoy) with the physical skills to make all of the necessary plays.

If you guys coudl redo last year's draft, would you take Tannehill at 4 instead of TRich?

Commander of Awesome;1405199 wrote:If you guys coudl redo last year's draft, would you take Tannehill at 4 instead of TRich?

Absolutely not. Love Richardson. Think Tannehill is a Ponder or Gabbert with a better o line

Tannehill has the skillset needed, Ponder doesn't. Gabbert? LOL worst QB in the league.

BR1986FB;1405193 wrote:Wasn't saying Smith was your first choice.

Different situation this year. We have a QB who has all of the physical tools to get the job done. It's just a matter of whether that light bulb goes on. Going into last years draft, we didn't have the QB (see Colt McCoy) with the physical skills to make all of the necessary plays.

I see accuracy as a physical tool, Weeden hasn't shown he has it.

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  If it weren’t for the money involved this would get a higher grade because Bryant is a guy who can really play. He was our sixth ranked defensive tackle last year with the sixth highest pass rushing productivity of all his peers. But he’s more than just a one dimensional pass rusher and held up against the run well too. It’s that all round ability and versatility (he spent most of 2011 at defensive end for the Raiders) which makes him an excellent fit for a Cleveland defense needing someone who can make an impact up front.
  
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se-alum;1405209 wrote:I see accuracy as a physical tool, Weeden hasn't shown he has it.

Oddly enough (because it's obviously not the norm), I think Weeden threw a better deep ball down the sideline than a short timing route. Unfortunately, Shumur's WC offense didn't have much room for deep balls down the sideline.

I was a big advocate for drafting Weeden last year (although, I was hoping with our 2nd rounder, not at 22). I still think Weeden has the physical tools to make it in this league. Unfortunately for him, time is definitely an issue because of his age. This is the year he's gotta get it done, because if he doesn't the new regime has already made it clear they will move on without batting an eye. I do hope that he can figure things out, though, and use the experience he gained last year to really develop and improve this year. I believe the Norv can make him into something, and that would be ideal so we don't have to keep finding a new QB and can build in other areas of need.

Maiava signed with Oakland. Glad to see we're slowing pinching off the turds...

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1405243 wrote:Oddly enough (because it's obviously not the norm), I think Weeden threw a better deep ball down the sideline than a short timing route. Unfortunately, Shumur's WC offense didn't have much room for deep balls down the sideline.

I was a big advocate for drafting Weeden last year (although, I was hoping with our 2nd rounder, not at 22). I still think Weeden has the physical tools to make it in this league. Unfortunately for him, time is definitely an issue because of his age. This is the year he's gotta get it done, because if he doesn't the new regime has already made it clear they will move on without batting an eye. I do hope that he can figure things out, though, and use the experience he gained last year to really develop and improve this year. I believe the Norv can make him into something, and that would be ideal so we don't have to keep finding a new QB and can build in other areas of need.

Well said, and I believe he will thrive in this kind of offense.

Thrive is a bit much but he most certainly should have a better year than last.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1405243 wrote:Oddly enough (because it's obviously not the norm), I think Weeden threw a better deep ball down the sideline than a short timing route. Unfortunately, Shumur's WC offense didn't have much room for deep balls down the sideline.

Didn't he only complete 20% of passes thrown 20+ yards?

Mulva;1405260 wrote:Didn't he only complete 20% of passes thrown 20+ yards?

I don't know what the statistics are. However, you can also make statistics say anything you want. We were behind but close in most of our games, so we ran quite a few hurry up scenarios with the defense sitting in prevent. Hard to complete deep throws when 8-9 men drop into coverage.

Anyways, the new offensive system should definitely be more tailored to Weeden's abilities, so let's not base our sole judgement on Shurmur's offense. We know where that got us...

Crimson streak;1405065 wrote:There were some talks yesterday about trading Sheard and a pick to the giants for victor Cruz.

The more I think about it we have t really been going after any guards ill bet money we try to trade down and take warmack or cooper. I would love this. Possibly 4 pro bowl offensive lineman would be nasty

Where did you see this at? That would be fucking titties.

shook_17;1405275 wrote:Where did you see this at? That would be ****ing titties.

It's highly doubtful it will happen. They would have to offer Cruz and then giants and browns would have to work out a deal and if a deal isn't reached we give up the 6th pick. So it's not worth the risk