Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 22, 2013 1:18pm
I would pretty pissed if we took Eddie Lacy or a LT prospect at #6. lollhslep134;1431414 wrote:Remember how vehemently opposed I was to contemplating Weeden well before we even took him? The only way I could be more upset at a pick is if I felt similarly to a prospect as I felt towards Weeden, and yes while you're right I can't guarantee I won't feel that way in the future, it would take A LOT to get me back to that feeling of pure vitriol.
In case you didn't get the picture I F*CKING HATE BRANDON WEEDEN
This is making me lol, thinking about prospects that would make me more pissed than Quinn/Wimbley/Weeden this season.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 22, 2013 1:19pm
Iggy rather have the Browns make moves that make the fans (aka cleveland radio) happy, instead of actually helping the team.Commander of Awesome;1431415 wrote:Excellent point. How many TEs in recent memory were the primary offense and won a SB?
[SP]ZERO[/SP]
Browns NEVER have trouble selling tickets. Thanks.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Apr 22, 2013 1:19pm
Yeah, Gronk, Gonzo, VD, Gates, Graham, etc haven't elevated their teams to elite or great offenses have they?Commander of Awesome;1431408 wrote:Elite TEs are like Elite FBs. Who GAF?
5-10 years ago you'd be correct, but the game has changed and top receiving TEs are just as devastating to an offense (or more) as top WRs.
Commander of Awesome
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Apr 22, 2013 1:20pm
Granted I hate ND, so take it with a grain of salt, but I thought Quinn sucked ass in college. Lack of arm strength and inaccurate. In 07 all my friends were making fun of me bc I was so bitter about the pick. I got the last laugh on that one. Wish I hadn't though. I've had my misses as well though. Thought Curry was going to be a pwn LBer.lhslep134;1431418 wrote:I was fine with Quinn initially until realizing all of the teams that needed QBs that passed on him (LOLphins taking Ginn). I struck out on thinking Quinn might be good.
Commander of Awesome
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Apr 22, 2013 1:21pm
That's just wrong. sure Gronk lights up the fantasty scoreboard but all those TEs listed haven't won or been the catalyst for a SB, which is all I GAF about.jmog;1431421 wrote:Yeah, Gronk, Gonzo, VD, Gates, Graham, etc haven't elevated their teams to elite or great offenses have they?
5-10 years ago you'd be correct, but the game has changed and top receiving TEs are just as devastating to an offense (or more) as top WRs.
QQ all you want, and say the NFL has changed but its still all about diominating the lines of scrimage, solid run game, ELITE QB play and russing the passer. Can't rush the passer/stop the run you dont win.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Apr 22, 2013 1:21pm
They were behind the Bengals this year in attendance.Commander of Awesome;1431415 wrote:Excellent point. How many TEs in recent memory were the primary offense and won a SB?
[SP]ZERO[/SP]
Browns NEVER have trouble selling tickets. Thanks.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 22, 2013 1:23pm
Difference between selling tickets and attendance. Browns still haven't had a game blacked out since returning. I believe the Bengals had a few games blacked out last season. I am sure Cleveland's attendance numers see a siginifcant drop at the last two games of the season when it is cold and they pretty much have given up on life.se-alum;1431425 wrote:They were behind the Bengals this year in attendance.
Commander of Awesome
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Apr 22, 2013 1:24pm
SE, you deleted your post but I want to pwn it anyway. How many blackouts did Cincy have last season? How many did the Browns have? Ok STFU, thanks.
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jmog
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Apr 22, 2013 1:24pm
That I agree with 100%, Cameron looked real good in the receiving aspect last year as a rookie.lhslep134;1431411 wrote:
Hell, I think Jordan Cameron will have a breakout year if given the playing time in this offense.
Commander of Awesome
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Apr 22, 2013 1:26pm
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 22, 2013 1:26pm
Agreedjmog;1431421 wrote:Yeah, Gronk, Gonzo, VD, Gates, Graham, etc haven't elevated their teams to elite or great offenses have they?
5-10 years ago you'd be correct, but the game has changed and top receiving TEs are just as devastating to an offense (or more) as top WRs.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Apr 22, 2013 1:26pm
I deleted cause I thought I looked at the wrong numbers, but I hadn't. Who cares how many tix were sold if the fans don't actually show up to watch the game?Commander of Awesome;1431429 wrote:SE, you deleted your post but I want to pwn it anyway. How many blackouts did Cincy have last season? How many did the Browns have? Ok STFU, thanks.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Apr 22, 2013 1:27pm
I agree 100% with your last sentence. The game is won and lost on the LOS. If we have a chance at an elite OG, an elite pass rusher, etc. Take them 100 times in a row.Commander of Awesome;1431424 wrote:That's just wrong. sure Gronk lights up the fantasty scoreboard but all those TEs listed haven't won or been the catalyst for a SB, which is all I GAF about.
QQ all you want, and say the NFL has changed but its still all about diominating the lines of scrimage, solid run game, ELITE QB play and russing the passer. Can't rush the passer/stop the run you dont win.
I actually don't think we need a TE in the early rounds, so we agree there as well.
I just didn't agree with your statement about not GAF about TEs anymore. That position has become more important/helpful to modern offenses, that is not opinion, it is fact.
If we took a TE at 6 I would be upset as well.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 22, 2013 1:27pm
This will be his third year.jmog;1431430 wrote:That I agree with 100%, Cameron looked real good in the receiving aspect last year as a rookie.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 22, 2013 1:28pm
LOL beat me to it. SE should know better. You have to know your shit if you are going to post on this thread. Provide fail posts, and you are getting called out on it. Nice fail SE. As COA said earlier, the Browns don't need to reach with fail picks to sell tickets.Commander of Awesome;1431432 wrote:http://espn.go.com/nfl/attendance
LOL. SE wrong again. Higher than Pittspuke.
se-alum
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Apr 22, 2013 1:28pm
LOL...you have to look at percentage of capacity, not just average attendance.Commander of Awesome;1431432 wrote:http://espn.go.com/nfl/attendance
LOL. SE wrong again. Higher than Pittspuke.
Commander of Awesome
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Apr 22, 2013 1:28pm
You did look at the wrong numbers. Even in attendance, we were far better than Cincy and even Pittsburgh.se-alum;1431434 wrote:I deleted cause I thought I looked at the wrong numbers, but I hadn't. Who cares how many tix were sold if the fans don't actually show up to watch the game?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 22, 2013 1:29pm
Yeah, i was going to say, most of those TEs you listed were not drafted in the first round.jmog;1431435 wrote:I agree 100% with your last sentence. The game is won and lost on the LOS. If we have a chance at an elite OG, an elite pass rusher, etc. Take them 100 times in a row.
I actually don't think we need a TE in the early rounds, so we agree there as well.
I just didn't agree with your statement about not GAF about TEs anymore. That position has become more important/helpful to modern offenses, that is not opinion, it is fact.
If we took a TE at 6 I would be upset as well.
Commander of Awesome
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Apr 22, 2013 1:30pm
I do? LMAO, and why is that? Bc Cincy has a fail stadium I have to account for their percentage to appease you so you dont look wrong? No I'll stick with the raw numbers thanks.se-alum;1431438 wrote:LOL...you have to look at percentage of capacity, not just average attendance.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 22, 2013 1:31pm
Those percentages don't explain cincy blacking out their games on playoff seasons. Keep failing though.se-alum;1431438 wrote:LOL...you have to look at percentage of capacity, not just average attendance.
Commander of Awesome
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Apr 22, 2013 1:33pm
to further prove my point:
Cle Avg Attendance: 66,632
Cin Avg Attendance 61,188
Cle Road Total: 532,210
Cin Road Total: 531,910
Cle Overall:
Cin Overall:
Congrats to Cincy for beating Pittsburgh though.
Cle Avg Attendance: 66,632
Cin Avg Attendance 61,188
Cle Road Total: 532,210
Cin Road Total: 531,910
Cle Overall:
| 1,065,268 | Avg: 66,579 |
| 1,021,414 | Avg 63,838 |
se-alum
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Apr 22, 2013 1:35pm
And you look at raw numbers so you don't look wrong.Commander of Awesome;1431441 wrote:I do? LMAO, and why is that? Bc Cincy has a fail stadium I have to account for their percentage to appease you so you dont look wrong? No I'll stick with the raw numbers thanks.
GOONx19
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Apr 22, 2013 1:36pm
You only have to look a percentage of capacity if the team is near 100% capacity or higher. If the Steelers or Bengals don't reach capacity as is (which is the case here), then having a larger stadium won't help.se-alum;1431438 wrote:LOL...you have to look at percentage of capacity, not just average attendance.
Commander of Awesome
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Apr 22, 2013 1:37pm
I looked at all the numbers SE. The only one where Cincy beat cle is in Blackouts, during a playoff run. The only reason Cincy has a smaller stadium is bc cincy is a fail football town with a joke of a fan base. So you're looking at percentage bc they have a smaller stadium? LOLse-alum;1431447 wrote:And you look at raw numbers so you don't look wrong.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Apr 22, 2013 1:40pm
I dislike Cincy and their fan base as much as you do, I'm just saying, let's not act like the Browns are packing the stadium for all their home games. I'm not going to brag about selling tickets if the ticket buyer isn't actually coming to the games.Commander of Awesome;1431449 wrote:I looked at all the numbers SE. The only one where Cincy beat cle is in Blackouts, during a playoff run. The only reason Cincy has a smaller stadium is bc cincy is a fail football town with a joke of a fan base. So you're looking at percentage bc they have a smaller stadium? LOL