Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Apr 22, 2013 5:49pm
saw today Kiper or McShay, forget who it was, has the Browns taking Eifert at 6.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 22, 2013 6:11pm
I will shit in my hat if the Browns do this.Pick6;1431577 wrote:saw today Kiper or McShay, forget who it was, has the Browns taking Eifert at 6.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 22, 2013 6:15pm
If the Browns want a more athletic QB to groom they should spend a 4th or 5th on Matt Scott from Arizona. He only started 1 year, played great for us, and worked with George Whitfield this offseason who sang his praises. He's got a good arm and he's smart. If you want to see a pretty awesome QB game film watch his highlights vs Stanford. Arizona was the only offense to really torch Stanford and Scott was a huge reason why.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/30056
Some pundits were saying before LAST year's draft that Scott was the better pro prospect than Foles.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/30056
Some pundits were saying before LAST year's draft that Scott was the better pro prospect than Foles.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 22, 2013 6:20pm
At that time, taking a QB at #5 meant you thought he was a franchise QB. Sanchez has proven to be bad (though it can't go without mention that he was in back to back AFC championship games. Better than some "elite" QBs in the NFL). Either way, at that time he was a top QB prospect and is the starter for the Jets and we gave the pick away for a bunch of shit.Sonofanump;1431574 wrote:Wait wut? You talking about Mark Sanchez.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Apr 22, 2013 6:23pm
Reports: Dee Milliner may slide on draft day
Appearing on NFL 32 Monday, ESPN's Todd McShay suggested Alabama CB Dee Milliner "might fall a little bit" on draft day.
We've gotten the same vibe. McShay cited teams' concerns about Milliner's "durability" and "not elite ball skills." A Monday morning report suggested Milliner wouldn't even be ready for training camp following shoulder surgery. On Monday's Mort Report, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported Milliner's medical history includes a rod in his tibia near Milliner's ankle, a past knee scope, and hernia surgery. "There is some concern out there about Milliner and his medical history," Mortensen said. "And it's not misinformation, not trying to make a guy fall down (the draft) because all teams have this same information."
Appearing on NFL 32 Monday, ESPN's Todd McShay suggested Alabama CB Dee Milliner "might fall a little bit" on draft day.
We've gotten the same vibe. McShay cited teams' concerns about Milliner's "durability" and "not elite ball skills." A Monday morning report suggested Milliner wouldn't even be ready for training camp following shoulder surgery. On Monday's Mort Report, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported Milliner's medical history includes a rod in his tibia near Milliner's ankle, a past knee scope, and hernia surgery. "There is some concern out there about Milliner and his medical history," Mortensen said. "And it's not misinformation, not trying to make a guy fall down (the draft) because all teams have this same information."
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 22, 2013 6:25pm
Been saying that since January. Not worth it. You don't take a #2 CB at 6. Wouldnt be overly pissed (Weeden) as its a need, but bottom line its bad business.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1431593 wrote:Reports: Dee Milliner may slide on draft day
Appearing on NFL 32 Monday, ESPN's Todd McShay suggested Alabama CB Dee Milliner "might fall a little bit" on draft day.
We've gotten the same vibe. McShay cited teams' concerns about Milliner's "durability" and "not elite ball skills." A Monday morning report suggested Milliner wouldn't even be ready for training camp following shoulder surgery. On Monday's Mort Report, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported Milliner's medical history includes a rod in his tibia near Milliner's ankle, a past knee scope, and hernia surgery. "There is some concern out there about Milliner and his medical history," Mortensen said. "And it's not misinformation, not trying to make a guy fall down (the draft) because all teams have this same information."
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Apr 22, 2013 6:39pm
Stay at 6 and go defense. Jones, Jordan, Millner, trade back. No further than 11.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Apr 22, 2013 9:38pm
I really think it is going to be millner if they stay at 6....just a gut feeling
Mr Miyagi
Posts: 1,211
Apr 22, 2013 10:29pm
I really look for Banner and Lombardi to do something stupid in this draft just to prove to us how smart they are.
My thoughts
1.Pass rush
2.CB
My thoughts
1.Pass rush
2.CB
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 22, 2013 10:32pm
1. Trade down (but not past 11, and get a high 3rd or 2nd for it)
2. Take who is there of
2. Take who is there of
- Jordan
- Warmack
- Milliner
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Apr 22, 2013 10:37pm
are you saying a pass rusher and a cb with the first 2 picks would be stupid?Mr Miyagi;1431718 wrote:I really look for Banner and Lombardi to do something stupid in this draft just to prove to us how smart they are.
My thoughts
1.Pass rush
2.CB
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 22, 2013 10:52pm
Great point, esp with an egotist like Banner, and always wants the spotlight media guy for several years lombardi.Mr Miyagi;1431718 wrote:I really look for Banner and Lombardi to do something stupid in this draft just to prove to us how smart they are.
My thoughts
1.Pass rush
2.CB
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Apr 22, 2013 10:54pm
FIFY
Laley23;1431722 wrote:1. Trade down (but not past 11, and get a high 3rd or 2nd for it)
2. Take who is there of
- Jordan
- Warmack
- Milliner
- Rhodes
CLEconomically Speaking
Posts: 401
Apr 22, 2013 10:57pm
No. He's not. He said he thinks they'll do something dumb. then he hit return twice. then he said "my thoughts." then he told you his opinionPick6;1431727 wrote:are you saying a pass rusher and a cb with the first 2 picks would be stupid?
CLEconomically Speaking
Posts: 401
Apr 22, 2013 11:00pm
I don't mind going down past eleven as long as it involves two separate trades.
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Sonofanump
Apr 22, 2013 11:01pm
Agree they got shit back beyond actually scoring well with the Mack pick. Just like this year, that draft was lacking a franchise QB beyond Stafford.Commander of Awesome;1431591 wrote:At that time, taking a QB at #5 meant you thought he was a franchise QB. Sanchez has proven to be bad (though it can't go without mention that he was in back to back AFC championship games. Better than some "elite" QBs in the NFL). Either way, at that time he was a top QB prospect and is the starter for the Jets and we gave the pick away for a bunch of shit.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 22, 2013 11:02pm
Didnt really factor that in, but I would agree. Same principle though. Get REAL value back. 3rd rounder or better for the 2nd trade and early 3rd or better for the first.CLEconomically Speaking;1431768 wrote:I don't mind going down past eleven as long as it involves two separate trades.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 22, 2013 11:05pm
If you comparing them so far its hard to argue in favor of Stafford. I agree that I'd MUCH rather have stafford, but his injuries/lack of playoffs compared to Sanchez is noteworthy.Sonofanump;1431772 wrote:Agree they got shit back beyond actually scoring well with the Mack pick. Just like this year, that draft was lacking a franchise QB beyond Stafford.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 23, 2013 7:44am
Not only hearing the "Milliner will slide" comments but also that it's very possible that Geno falls to the 20's, where he belongs. NFL Network was saying even Buffalo may pass on him.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 23, 2013 7:46am
BR1986FB;1431901 wrote:Not only hearing the "Milliner will slide" comments but also that it's very possible that Geno falls to the 20's, where he belongs. NFL Network was saying even Buffalo may pass on him.
This is why a trade down would be ideal. First off you could probably still get milliner and there are going to be some solid QBs in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 23, 2013 7:47am
Also saw on the NFL Network this morning that Pittsburgh's GM has a hard on for Tyler Bray. Not a Browns topic but whatever.like_that;1431902 wrote:This is why a trade down would be ideal. First off you could probably still get milliner and there are going to be some solid QBs in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
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Sonofanump
Apr 23, 2013 10:15am
Agree. I would not want Sanchez on my team and IMHO Stafford is a borderline Franchise (i.e. top 15-18) QB.Commander of Awesome;1431778 wrote:If you comparing them so far its hard to argue in favor of Stafford. I agree that I'd MUCH rather have stafford, but his injuries/lack of playoffs compared to Sanchez is noteworthy.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 23, 2013 10:23am
Please don't tell me you have Dalton ranked ahead of him...Sonofanump;1431950 wrote:Agree. I would not want Sanchez on my team and IMHO Stafford is a borderline Franchise (i.e. top 15-18) QB.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Apr 23, 2013 10:39am
Do you think there are that many franchise QB's? You are saying that half the league has franchise QB's. That seems like a huge stretch.Sonofanump;1431950 wrote:Agree. I would not want Sanchez on my team and IMHO Stafford is a borderline Franchise (i.e. top 15-18) QB.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Apr 23, 2013 10:48am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/23/report-five-teams-in-top-12-want-to-move-down/related/Schefter specifically mentioned the Eagles (fourth), Lions (fifth), Browns (sixth), Bills (eighth) and Dolphins (12th) as having made calls trying to trade down.
If that is the case we might be picking at 6.
With that many teams trying to move down it is going to really drive down the price.
It's amazing what a difference a year makes.