sjmvsfscs08;1331453 wrote:They don't count when you cheat.

Tattoos are cheating?

The games were won on the field without cheating, the NCAA just typically over does it with the past game penalty hammer when it comes to VIOLATIONS like tattoos and boosters.

sjmvsfscs08;1331453 wrote:They don't count when you cheat.

Right. OSU has given more losses to other teams in BCS bowl games than any other team. ND has won zero. LOL

jmog;1331460 wrote:Tattoos are cheating?

The games were won on the field without cheating, the NCAA just typically over does it with the past game penalty hammer when it comes to VIOLATIONS like tattoos and boosters.

Using ineligible players in games is cheating, right?

sleeper;1331464 wrote:Right. OSU has given more losses to other teams in BCS bowl games than any other team. ND has won zero. LOL

Why are you bringing up Notre Dame? And you're always in the Notre Dame threads.

karen lotz;1331469 wrote:Using ineligible players in games is cheating, right?

They were approved to play in the game by the NCAA. Only after they won they were declared ineligible.

ND, more negligent deaths than BCS bowl wins.

Mooney44Cards;1331471 wrote:Why are you bringing up Notre Dame? And you're always in the Notre Dame threads.

Because it's been 20 years since ND has been relevant and their fans still talk shit about Ohio State.

Mooney44Cards;1331471 wrote:Why are you bringing up Notre Dame? And you're always in the Notre Dame threads.

Oh, the irony.

vball10set;1331478 wrote:Oh, the irony.

You forgot your hilarious smiley face! Maybe this time one with rolling eyes or something? My 12 year old cousin, she likes stuff like that too.

sleeper;1331475 wrote:Because it's been 20 years since ND has been relevant and their fans still talk shit about Ohio State.

In your words its been 20 years since ND's been relevant. Why do esteemed osu fans feel the need to talk shit about them constantly? HMMMM

How many illegally recruited kids did Mooney have playing this year?

Mooney44Cards;1331481 wrote:You forgot your hilarious smiley face! Maybe this time one with rolling eyes or something? My 12 year old cousin, she likes stuff like that too.

lol, didn't you think it ironic that you were slamming sleeper about being on ND threads while you're on an OSU thread? Wait, now that I think about it, you wouldn't--now get on back to playing with your 12 year old cousin. (because you asked)

Tiernan;1331486 wrote:How many illegally recruited kids did Mooney have playing this year?

John Simon.

karen lotz;1331484 wrote:In your words its been 20 years since ND's been relevant. Why do esteemed osu fans feel the need to talk shit about them constantly? HMMMM

Oh I don't care about ND. Just when any ND fan spouts off anything negative about OSU and forgets entirely that ND is at such a low level of accomplishments in the past 20 years that they are more of a Sun Belt school than a big time program ND fans claim it to be.

Pretty simple. I don't mind the criticism of OSU on or off the field provided the argument is well backed and is not thrown from a glass house. For example, if you talk shit about the lack of big games OSU has won, it's easy to point out ND has never won a BCS bowl game. If you say OSU has cheated, it's easy to say ND is responsible for the death of a young child. If you say ND would beat OSU in a game, it's easy to point back to 2006 when ND thought the same thing and got BLOWN OUT. Really, ND fans need to keep their mouth shut and actually accomplish something before even attempting to be critical of one of the most successful programs recently and in history.

vball10set;1331488 wrote:lol, didn't you think it ironic that you were slamming sleeper about being on ND threads while you're on an OSU thread? Wait, now that I think about it, you wouldn't--now get on back to playing with your 12 year old cousin.

The difference is, I didn't come on here to bash OSU. But I'm also not going to let some dumb statement like "Ohio State has won more BCS bowls than any other team" slide when it is not true no matter which way you slice it. Then when sleeper is called out on it, he childishly moves the goalposts of his argument, yet you're on his side because its all about OSU fans vs. Notre Dame fans isn't it? "lol"

Some OSU fans on here are so damned pathetic that I can't even come in to an OSU thread to discuss OSU (I watch pretty much all their games and cheer for them most of the time) without it turning into a Notre Dame vs. Ohio State thing.

sleeper;1331503 wrote:Oh I don't care about ND.

LOL

karen lotz;1331469 wrote:Using ineligible players in games is cheating, right?

Using players you know are ineligible is cheating.

Using players that are given the "ok" by the NCAA and years later the NCAA determines they were ineligible is not cheating.

By definition, cheating is something you knowingly do against the rules. The team/coaches didn't know the players were ineligible when they played the game.

Mooney44Cards;1331504 wrote:(I watch pretty much all their games and cheer for them most of the time) .

Trust me, we'll get along very well without you. Don't feel obligated to cheer only some of the time.

Mooney44Cards;1331504 wrote:The difference is, I didn't come on here to bash OSU. But I'm also not going to let some dumb statement like "Ohio State has won more BCS bowls than any other team" slide when it is not true no matter which way you slice it. Then when sleeper is called out on it, he childishly moves the goalposts of his argument, yet you're on his side because its all about OSU fans vs. Notre Dame fans isn't it? "lol"

Some OSU fans on here are so damned pathetic that I can't even come in to an OSU thread to discuss OSU (I watch pretty much all their games and cheer for them most of the time) without it turning into a Notre Dame vs. Ohio State thing.

Fair enough, Mooney, and for the record, I hope ND kick the shit out of whatever SEC team they play.

jmog;1331511 wrote:Using players you know are ineligible is cheating.

Using players that are given the "ok" by the NCAA and years later the NCAA determines they were ineligible is not cheating.

By definition, cheating is something you knowingly do against the rules. The team/coaches didn't know the players were ineligible when they played the game.

Except for the entire season after Tressel was alerted to the violations. Also kept stuff from the NCAA prior to the bowl game, but I'm sure you already knew that.

Tiernan;1331513 wrote:Trust me, we'll get along very well without you.

With sleeper as your little ring leader, I doubt that very much.

karen lotz;1331519 wrote:Except for the entire season after Tressel was alerted to the violations. Also kept stuff from the NCAA prior to the bowl game, but I'm sure you already knew that.

Tressel is more concerned with the health and safety of his players rather than meaningless violations crafted by people with nothing better to do.

How's BK and the health and safety of his players working out?

I'm more of a Vball follower myself...

Tiernan;1331525 wrote:I'm more of a Vball follower myself...

good god, I hope notz

sleeper;1331524 wrote:Tressel is more concerned with the health and safety of his players rather than meaningless violations crafted by people with nothing better to do.

How's BK and the health and safety of his players working out?

Really well, thanks for asking!

Their pretty easy schedule next year could lead to them getting plowed in a bowl game by a team that actually doesn't suck.