I think another problem with baseball, and you hear Colin Cowherd hammer this point home all the time, is that the sport's key demographic is the same as Colonial Penn's. Baseball is the game of the country's older generations, and the MLB just doesn't seem to be doing as effective a job at bringing in newer, younger fans in comparison to today's more relevant sports such as the ultra-popular NFL and the NBA. Unless you're from Boston or Detroit or another major baseball city, it's just not "en vogue" anymore. Or at least that's kind of the feeling I get. The NFL and especially the NBA do a pretty good job with their marketing strategies in order to attract new generations of fans while also building upon the strong constituency of followers they already have.

And the fact that every great home run hitter of the last two decades was fueled entirely by drugs doesn't help. (With the exception of Junior and some others.) That pretty much destroyed the reputation of all of the sport's biggest stars, whether they juiced or not, and that is a major component to the fall of baseball. It would sort of be like if all the NBA fans found out that all of the players they had been cheering on were actually aliens from Moron Mountain. Like in Space Jam. Their accomplishments no longer would seem very impressive.

I'm not disagreeing with anyone but I watched every inning and enjoyed it.

The Giants with their backs against the wall in 2 consecutive series and never flinched....not at Cincy, not at St. Louis.

0-2 and won 3 straight at Cincy....down 3-1....won 3 straight and then 4 straight.

Ironman92;1307632 wrote:I'm not disagreeing with anyone but I watched every inning and enjoyed it.

The Giants with their backs against the wall in 2 consecutive series and never flinched....not at Cincy, not at St. Louis.

0-2 and won 3 straight at Cincy....down 3-1....won 3 straight and then 4 straight.

I enjoyed it, too, as I do every year of the playoffs. I was disappointed with Detroit's performance in the series, but the final game was at least drama-filled.

The season is just 2 long and after watching 162 games people are just 2 burnt out to give a shit when their team is done. I watched all of game 1 and then a little bit of each of the others.

Season needs to be cut down to 120-140 games. 162 is brutally long. like rotinaj said, people just get burnt out.

SportsAndLady;1307791 wrote:Season needs to be cut down to 120-140 games. 162 is brutally long. like rotinaj said, people just get burnt out.

Agreed....but it will never happen

Attendance is usually at record breaking numbers, or close to it. Minor League baseball has had an attendance boom in recent memory so people still like to go to the games. I go to a few Dayton Dragons games a year, a team tht has the record for most sellouts in a row, and when you sit around and just look and listen people really arent there for the game of baseball, they are there because it is something to do, the popular thing to do there. The stadium is very very nice and that was the early draw, but now that type of stadium is becoming the norm.

I dont know what the answer is ratings other than what Laley stated....people are huge fans of their team, but when that is over with they are just burnt out of the game. I am a baseball guy, but I will admit that I dont know a whole heck of alot about the teams in the AL or the ones the reds dont play often. People will sit down and watch a random NFL or college FB game, but not a random baseball game.

The season will never get cut down, no way. No how. IF IF IF it ever would it would be to the 153 (is that right) game season they had for the longest time. BB is too much of a stats/numbers/records game to cut it below what it used to be.

reclegend22;1307535 wrote:I think another problem with baseball, and you hear Colin Cowherd hammer this point home all the time, is that the sport's key demographic is the same as Colonial Penn's. Baseball is the game of the country's older generations, and the MLB just doesn't seem to be doing as effective a job at bringing in newer, younger fans in comparison to today's more relevant sports such as the ultra-popular NFL and the NBA. Unless you're from Boston or Detroit or another major baseball city, it's just not "en vogue" anymore. Or at least that's kind of the feeling I get. The NFL and especially the NBA do a pretty good job with their marketing strategies in order to attract new generations of fans while also building upon the strong constituency of followers they already have.

And the fact that every great home run hitter of the last two decades was fueled entirely by drugs doesn't help. (With the exception of Junior and some others.) That pretty much destroyed the reputation of all of the sport's biggest stars, whether they juiced or not, and that is a major component to the fall of baseball. It would sort of be like if all the NBA fans found out that all of the players they had been cheering on were actually aliens from Moron Mountain. Like in Space Jam. Their accomplishments no longer would seem very impressive.

I don't know me and my girlfriend are in our early 20's and we go to about 5 Tigers games a year and we see plenty of young people. I'll admit it's a sport you start to like as you get older. I wasn't much of a fan when I was 12, I was all about Hockey, Football and Basketball but now I've really gotten into it the last few years. Now you're right about MILB games, people just go cause it's something to do

Classyposter58;1308532 wrote:I don't know me and my girlfriend are in our early 20's and we go to about 5 Tigers games a year and we see plenty of young people. I'll admit it's a sport you start to like as you get older. I wasn't much of a fan when I was 12, I was all about Hockey, Football and Basketball but now I've really gotten into it the last few years. Now you're right about MILB games, people just go cause it's something to do

Or when your team has been good...Which proves our point. If your team sucks or is eliminated, you dont care or watch. Selig has killed the national brand of the game.

Laley23;1308694 wrote:Or when your team has been good...Which proves our point. If your team sucks or is eliminated, you dont care or watch. Selig has killed the national brand of the game.

They haven't been unbelievably good in the last 5 years

Classyposter58;1308770 wrote:They haven't been unbelievably good in the last 5 years

No, but they have been spending money garnering interest. And they have been good (not 2008). But 2 division titles and a loss to the Twins after a collapse. So, they HAVE been good 3 of the last 4 years...I never said unbelievably anyway.