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Oct 16, 2012 4:41 PM
BigAppleBuckeye;1296661 wrote:If improvement of team is factored in here (which it may not in the minds of many voters), then Miller has a decent shot of winning. Smith is a stud, no argument here, and he would get my vote right now, period. That being said, his team CRUSHED Clemson in a BCS game last year, while Miller has almost single-handedly taken an under .500 Buckeye team and turned them into an undefeated, top 10 team.
Undefeated, yes. Top 10? Technically yes, but OSU is not a top 10 quality team this year.
Oct 16, 2012 4:41pm
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Oct 16, 2012 6:12 PM
Trueblue23;1296762 wrote:Undefeated, yes. Top 10? Technically yes, but OSU is not a top 10 quality team this year.
You know something, you're right, but what's crazy about college football this year is that other than Alabama and Oregon, who is???
Oct 16, 2012 6:12pm
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Oct 16, 2012 8:07 PM
vball10set;1296840 wrote:You know something, you're right, but what's crazy about college football this year is that other than Alabama and Oregon, who is???
Seems like we've had more years like that lately.
Oct 16, 2012 8:07pm
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Oct 16, 2012 11:07 PM
vball10set;1296840 wrote:You know something, you're right, but what's crazy about college football this year is that other than Alabama and Oregon, who is???
WebFire;1296901 wrote:Seems like we've had more years like that lately.
I agree with both of these. CFB isn't as strong as it used to be.
Oct 16, 2012 11:07pm
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Oct 17, 2012 3:45 AM
That's because everyone wants to play right away and the great players are spread out over more teams. The only team right now who seems to be able to stock pile talent is Alabama.
Oct 17, 2012 3:45am
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Nov 5, 2012 1:49 PM
I figured I'd bump this.


My list as of right now.

Klein
Miller
Te'o
Barner
McCarron

I could see only 4 getting the invite.
Nov 5, 2012 1:49pm
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Nov 5, 2012 2:16 PM
Klein
Miller
Te'o
Barner
Nov 5, 2012 2:16pm
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Nov 5, 2012 2:50 PM
Klein
Miller
Manziel
Barner
McCarron
Nov 5, 2012 2:50pm
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Nov 5, 2012 2:53 PM
Top 5:

Klein
Miller
Barner
Manziel
McCarron
Nov 5, 2012 2:53pm
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Nov 5, 2012 3:19 PM
My top 5:

Manziel
Klein
Miller

Te'o (if they lose he's gone)


Barner
Nov 5, 2012 3:19pm
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Nov 5, 2012 3:30 PM
Klein is going to win it. I don't know why anyone thinks Te'o even has a shot. A defensive player will never win the Heisman after Suh got shafted. It's the obligatory defensive player they pick so they can pretend it doesn't go to a QB or RB every year.
Nov 5, 2012 3:30pm
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Nov 5, 2012 4:19 PM
If Klein doesn't play this week Miller is the front runner.
Nov 5, 2012 4:19pm
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Nov 5, 2012 4:21 PM
Tiernan;1313376 wrote:If Klein doesn't play this week Miller is the front runner.

Well technically miller doesn't play this week either.
Nov 5, 2012 4:21pm
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Nov 5, 2012 4:23 PM
sleeper;1313340 wrote:Klein is going to win it. I don't know why anyone thinks Te'o even has a shot. A defensive player will never win the Heisman after Suh got shafted. It's the obligatory defensive player they pick so they can pretend it doesn't go to a QB or RB every year.

Woodson won it in 97. But I agree I don't think we will ever see a defensive player win it again. Both Klein and te'o represent what the heisman is all about
Nov 5, 2012 4:23pm
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Nov 5, 2012 4:23 PM
Tiernan;1313376 wrote:If Klein doesn't play this week Miller is the front runner.

No he won't Klein would still win it
Nov 5, 2012 4:23pm
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Nov 5, 2012 4:24 PM
Unless everyone else falls off completely I don't think Miller has a realistic shot anyway.

Like I said, I'll be happy with just an invite. If KSU wins out it's Klein's trophy.
Nov 5, 2012 4:24pm
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Nov 5, 2012 4:39 PM
Crimson streak;1313379 wrote:Woodson won it in 97. But I agree I don't think we will ever see a defensive player win it again. Both Klein and te'o represent what the heisman is all about
And what is that exactly? Te'o isn't deserving of the Heisman; he doesn't represent shit.
Nov 5, 2012 4:39pm
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Nov 5, 2012 4:39 PM
Miller's only shot is to go undefeated and everyone else screw up. Not going to happen.
Nov 5, 2012 4:39pm
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Nov 5, 2012 5:06 PM
Miller will get an invite this year, setting him up to win it next year.
Nov 5, 2012 5:06pm
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Nov 5, 2012 5:06 PM
vball10set;1313399 wrote:Miller will get an invite this year, setting him up to win it next year.
Back to back? :D
Nov 5, 2012 5:06pm
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Nov 5, 2012 5:09 PM
sleeper;1313389 wrote:And what is that exactly? Te'o isn't deserving of the Heisman; he doesn't represent ****.

He represents leadership not only on the field but off. He's an academic all American, and represents all that is good in college football. He's a great kid I'm going to be sad to see him leave nd
Nov 5, 2012 5:09pm
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Nov 5, 2012 5:12 PM
Crimson streak;1313379 wrote:Woodson won it in 97. But I agree I don't think we will ever see a defensive player win it again. Both Klein and te'o represent what the heisman is all about
Woodson won it bc he would also play on offense and would return punts/kicks. I agree with Sleeper, Suh got shafted on it. Te'o won't win it and his numbers actually aren't that great either compared to other LB's.
Nov 5, 2012 5:12pm
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Nov 5, 2012 5:14 PM
I have nothing against Te'o, he's a great player, but skill wise he's not worthy of the Heisman.

The only reason he's in the running is because he's ND's best player and they are back in the national spotlight. IMO he's not even as influential as the Honey Badger and look where he finished.
Nov 5, 2012 5:14pm
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Nov 5, 2012 5:26 PM
End of Line;1313406 wrote:Woodson won it bc he would also play on offense and would return punts/kicks. I agree with Sleeper, Suh got shafted on it. Te'o won't win it and his numbers actually aren't that great either compared to other LB's.

I'm not saying he should win it I'm just saying both Klein and te'o represent everything that the heisman stands for. There both great people. As for Woodson he is arguably the best college football player ever even if he is a douche
Nov 5, 2012 5:26pm
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Nov 5, 2012 6:24 PM
Automatik;1313400 wrote:Back to back? :D
Nah, he doesn't deserve it this year.
Nov 5, 2012 6:24pm