killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Feb 26, 2012 12:33pm
Floyd definitely had a good showing today.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Feb 26, 2012 12:34pm
He was a 2nd/3rd round pick before today, it isn't just the combine. Averaged 29.3 yards per reception (28 rec, 820 yards), which is insane. He's a legit deep threat. Catches obviously limited by playing in the Georgia Tech triple-option.lhslep134;1096272 wrote:It's unfortunate people take so much stock in combine numbers. I'll take game film 7 days a week over combine performance. Kendall Wright was one of the fastest receivers on film (as COA said), and yet didn't run one of the fastest combine numbers. Who gives a sh*t.
But a 4.3 obviously doesn't hurt.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Feb 26, 2012 12:35pm
The nice thing is...seems like a lot of receivers are looking pretty damn good, so there is a chance that an elite one is there at 22. Sadly though...we want to give up everything so RG3 can run for his life and bounce the ball off of the stonehand receivers that we already have.lhslep134;1096274 wrote:Floyds a beast, that's why I'm praying he falls to 22.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Feb 26, 2012 12:39pm
C'mon now, Tooth...not you too? You gotta be smarter than THAT. Is there a new rule in the NFL that says "oh, shit...Browns drafted RG3....return ALL of the free agents you signed and you're not allowed to use ANY more of your draft picks." Drafting RG3 and filling holes is NOT "mutually exclusive." BOTH can be done. I'd rather see them fill the GAPING hole at QB and get it over with than continue to suck the next 3-5 years.wes_mantooth;1096286 wrote:The nice thing is...seems like a lot of receivers are looking pretty damn good, so there is a chance that an elite one is there at 22. Sadly though...we want to give up everything so RG3 can run for his life and bounce the ball off of the stonehand receivers that we already have.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Feb 26, 2012 12:40pm
Just throwing this out here, but I think the fans are the only real ones that get caught up in the combine. I think, and have heard, that most boards are already mainly set, regardless of what occurs at the combine. RGIII might have moved up a bit actually being 6'2" but the 40 really doesn't change anything.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Feb 26, 2012 12:41pm
I just don't like what the price is going to be. Teams that give up virtually entire drafts usually regret it. I have no problem with RG3...Colt isn't the future obviously.BR1986FB;1096291 wrote:C'mon now, Tooth...not you too? You gotta be smarter than THAT. Is there a new rule in the NFL that says "oh, shit...Browns drafted RG3....return ALL of the free agents you signed and you're not allowed to use ANY more of your draft picks." Drafting RG3 and filling holes is NOT "mutually exclusive." BOTH can be done. I'd rather see them fill the GAPING hole at QB and get it over with than continue to suck the next 3-5 years.
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Feb 26, 2012 12:49pm
Hill to Miami. Mark it.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Feb 26, 2012 12:51pm
That's very possible. I guess the only explanation was that the Raiders were run by fans.iclfan2;1096292 wrote:Just throwing this out here, but I think the fans are the only real ones that get caught up in the combine. I think, and have heard, that most boards are already mainly set, regardless of what occurs at the combine. RGIII might have moved up a bit actually being 6'2" but the 40 really doesn't change anything.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Feb 26, 2012 12:54pm
Well if we can get a one of the top tier receivers in fa and a rt. and possibily a DE/lb in free agency I would be perfectly fine giving up a ton of picks for rgIII bc we filled a lot if ours holes in fa. Garçon declined indys 5 year offer so he will most likely be available.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Feb 26, 2012 1:00pm
that is where I have my doubts. This front office had chances to make the team competitive last offseason and stood pat. I don't trust them...no matter how many times Holmgren says we should...lolCrimson streak;1096303 wrote:Well if we can get a one of the top tier receivers in fa and a rt. and possibily a DE/lb in free agency I would be perfectly fine giving up a ton of picks for rgIII bc we filled a lot if ours holes in fa. Garçon declined indys 5 year offer so he will most likely be available.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Feb 26, 2012 1:03pm
The combine can be huge for guys with red flags. The interview process is definitely not overrated, even if all of the on-field things are.iclfan2;1096292 wrote:Just throwing this out here, but I think the fans are the only real ones that get caught up in the combine
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Feb 26, 2012 1:04pm
Agree with this. That's why Heckert not being at the Combine after his bypass surgery is no big deal to me. He sees the film. He has his board pretty much set.iclfan2;1096292 wrote:Just throwing this out here, but I think the fans are the only real ones that get caught up in the combine. I think, and have heard, that most boards are already mainly set, regardless of what occurs at the combine. RGIII might have moved up a bit actually being 6'2" but the 40 really doesn't change anything.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Feb 26, 2012 1:07pm
One "larger" signing and several smaller signings. But what may seem "larger" to the Browns won't necessarily seem "large" to Browns fans.wes_mantooth;1096306 wrote:that is where I have my doubts. This front office had chances to make the team competitive last offseason and stood pat. I don't trust them...no matter how many times Holmgren says we should...lol
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Feb 26, 2012 1:08pm
I'd take more stock into this if players didn't meet with the teams in a more personal setting closer to the draft.Mulva;1096309 wrote: The interview process is definitely not overrated.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 26, 2012 1:08pm
This is why you're such a douche now.BR1986FB;1096253 wrote: Keep wishing & hoping that McCoy is the QB this year....
Yeah, how dare us Browns fans hope and wish a QB on our team actually plays well!!!
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Feb 26, 2012 1:09pm
yeah, I wasn't greedy. I would have been happy with a Derrick Mason type...someone to mentor the young receivers. And address some obvious depth issues...but they did nothing.BR1986FB;1096313 wrote:One "larger" signing and several smaller signings. But what may seem "larger" to the Browns won't necessarily seem "large" to Browns fans.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Feb 26, 2012 1:10pm
Boards may have been set prior to the combine, but any team that was in wait and see mode on RGIII has now been cleared for all systems go because not only did he measure in bigger than expected, but also ran a sub 4.4 40. Everything that could have gone right for him at the combine did, which is why his price tag went up regardless of whether boards were set or not.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Feb 26, 2012 1:10pm
eh, lets not get into name calling now. I agree with your philosophy about building the team, but lets play civil.SportsAndLady;1096315 wrote:This is why you're such a douche now.
Yeah, how dare us Browns fans hope and wish a QB on our team actually plays well!!!
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Feb 26, 2012 1:11pm
Says the poster with the name "DouchebagsAndTrannies." :rolleyes:SportsAndLady;1096315 wrote:This is why you're such a douche now.
Yeah, how dare us Browns fans hope and wish a QB on our team actually plays well!!!
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Feb 26, 2012 1:13pm
We have plenty of money to spend. I would love to see them make the move on RGIII, then go after a Vincent Jackson type in free agency because he is still young and fills a major hole.wes_mantooth;1096316 wrote:yeah, I wasn't greedy. I would have been happy with a Derrick Mason type...someone to mentor the young receivers. And address some obvious depth issues...but they did nothing.
How much better would this offense look with a healthy Hillis in the backfield with RGIII under center and Jackson on the outside.
Snag a RT in free agency and suddenly we have a far more capable offense that might actually be able to put points on the board.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 26, 2012 1:14pm
Which is exactly why the Browns won't have RG3 on the team.IggyPride00;1096317 wrote:Boards may have been set prior to the combine, but any team that was in wait and see mode on RGIII has now been cleared for all systems go because not only did he measure in bigger than expected, but also ran a sub 4.4 40. Everything that could have gone right for him at the combine did, which is why his price tag went up regardless of whether boards were set or not.
he's not going to last til #4, and H&H are certainly not going to throw 2 first rounders and 2 other picks to get him..despite what the "all knowing i've never been to a Browns game self proclaimed Browns expert" on here says, there are way too many holes to just give up 4 picks to get a QB...yeah, Free Agents are going to be itching to come to Cleveland :rolleyes: . Then we'll just rely on our 4th and 5th round picks to put weapons around RG3 and build depth. lol so delusional, yet so many people on here fall for his spewed bullshit
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Feb 26, 2012 1:14pm
I think we'll see more this offseason but likely young guys, with upside, just completing their rookie contracts.wes_mantooth;1096316 wrote:yeah, I wasn't greedy. I would have been happy with a Derrick Mason type...someone to mentor the young receivers. And address some obvious depth issues...but they did nothing.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Feb 26, 2012 1:15pm
I am just praying for Washington to go another route....they are the main problem
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 26, 2012 1:16pm
Might as well go after Tom Brady. Then try to get Andre Johnson for a 4th-7th round draft pick. Then we can just steal defensive players to build depth...i'm talking literally going to green bay and kidnapping Clay Matthews. Might as well bring Billichek along with Brady, too.IggyPride00;1096321 wrote:We have plenty of money to spend. I would love to see them make the move on RGIII, then go after a Vincent Jackson type in free agency because he is still young and fills a major hole.
How much better would this offense look with a healthy Hillis in the backfield with RGIII under center and Jackson on the outside.
Snag a RT in free agency and suddenly we have a far more capable offense that might actually be able to put points on the board.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Feb 26, 2012 1:16pm
You're going to be crying in your Colt McCoy jersey that has your spooge all over it from your nuthugging when McCoy is NOT the QB this year ya little midget bitch.SportsAndLady;1096325 wrote:Which is exactly why the Browns won't have RG3 on the team.
he's not going to last til #4, and H&H are certainly not going to throw 2 first rounders and 2 other picks to get him..despite what the "all knowing i've never been to a Browns game self proclaimed Browns expert" on here says, there are way too many holes to just give up 4 picks to get a QB...yeah, Free Agents are going to be itching to come to Cleveland :rolleyes: . Then we'll just rely on our 4th and 5th round picks to put weapons around RG3 and build depth. lol so delusional, yet so many people on here fall for his spewed bullshit