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BR1986FB
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Feb 25, 2012 6:17pm
Me too. If he gets past the Rams, I'm now hearing that the Vikings want "Julio Jones compensation" like the Browns got from Atlanta last year.said_aouita;1095347 wrote:I really hope so. Prob' better long term for RGiii to go to Washington but personally I'd rather see him in the home uni's at the mistake on the lake.
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BR1986FB
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Feb 25, 2012 9:11pm
John Clayton (ESPN) said on a Saturday morning radio show this morning...
He made it pretty clear that the Browns will trade up for RGIII. He said the Browns would out-bid Washington and probably give up both 1st rounders, a 2nd round pick, and maybe even a 3rd if need be. He said Washington would probably offer their 2012 & 2013 1st, 2nd, & 3rd picks.
He said Browns view RGIII as having much more upside than Matt Flynn and that Holmgren is keen on generating more fan interest. He said the Browns don't view Flynn as doing nearly as much as RGIII to increase fan interest.
Take it FWIW....
He made it pretty clear that the Browns will trade up for RGIII. He said the Browns would out-bid Washington and probably give up both 1st rounders, a 2nd round pick, and maybe even a 3rd if need be. He said Washington would probably offer their 2012 & 2013 1st, 2nd, & 3rd picks.
He said Browns view RGIII as having much more upside than Matt Flynn and that Holmgren is keen on generating more fan interest. He said the Browns don't view Flynn as doing nearly as much as RGIII to increase fan interest.
Take it FWIW....
wes_mantooth
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Feb 25, 2012 9:21pm
I don't think it will happen unless Washington is in the mix. How awesome would it be if RG3 slid to #4 just because no one wanted to deal.....the Browns can really do some damage with 2 first roundersBR1986FB;1095723 wrote:Me too. If he gets past the Rams, I'm now hearing that the Vikings want "Julio Jones compensation" like the Browns got from Atlanta last year.
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BR1986FB
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Feb 25, 2012 9:26pm
That would be the perfect storm.wes_mantooth;1095889 wrote:I don't think it will happen unless Washington is in the mix. How awesome would it be if RG3 slid to #4 just because no one wanted to deal.....the Browns can really do some damage with 2 first rounders
wes_mantooth
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Feb 25, 2012 9:27pm
It would be...and god damn it, we Cleveland fans deserve a break...lolBR1986FB;1095892 wrote:That would be the perfect storm.
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BR1986FB
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Feb 25, 2012 9:40pm
What's MORE likely to happen is Manning to Miami, Flynn to Seattle, RG3 to the Skins and the Browns fall into a pile of tits only to come out sucking their thumb.wes_mantooth;1095894 wrote:It would be...and god damn it, we Cleveland fans deserve a break...lol
like_that
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Feb 25, 2012 9:56pm
I wouldn't consider having 2 first rd picks as "sucking their thumb."BR1986FB;1095899 wrote:What's MORE likely to happen is Manning to Miami, Flynn to Seattle, RG3 to the Skins and the Browns fall into a pile of tits only to come out sucking their thumb.
IggyPride00
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Feb 25, 2012 9:58pm
This is why someone is going to move up and pay a steep price to get RGIII.Holmgren is keen on generating more fan interest.
Whether it is us or someone else, getting RGIII creates a buzz that is invaluable.
If you are a charisma challeneged regime such as the one we have, RGIII takes care of all of that. Shurmur can be as boring as he wants, and Holmgren can be as condescending to the fan base as he wants and no one will give 2 shits because we have RGIII.
Just think for a second how different the atmosphere around this team and fan base would be if Flynn/McCoy was starting the season under center, or RGIII.
THat kind of stuff matters when you are trying to win back a fan base that is just tired of losing.
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BR1986FB
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Feb 25, 2012 10:00pm
It is if you're left with the QB situation "as is."like_that;1095904 wrote:I wouldn't consider having 2 first rd picks as "sucking their thumb."
like_that
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Feb 25, 2012 10:03pm
A lot of people are making this out to be a do or die situation with the QB position. I just don't buy into that crap. The team will get better if they have both their draft picks, and we don't get RGIII.BR1986FB;1095909 wrote:It is if you're left with the QB situation "as is."
I am not too thrilled about giving up all those picks just to move up 2 sports for RGIII. I'd give up those picks for Aaron Rodgers, not a guy in which we have no idea how well he will do in the NFL.
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BR1986FB
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Feb 25, 2012 10:09pm
Not going to argue about it but how did that drafting Roethlisberger work out for the Browns? Oh yeah they didn't, Butch Davis chose to "build the team with weapons" by drafting Winslow instead after telling Roethlisberger he was the pick.like_that;1095911 wrote:A lot of people are making this out to be a do or die situation with the QB position. I just don't buy into that crap. The team will get better if they have both their draft picks, and we don't get RGIII.
I am not too thrilled about giving up all those picks just to move up 2 sports for RGIII. I'd give up those picks for Aaron Rodgers, not a guy in which we have no idea how well he will do in the NFL.
like_that
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Feb 25, 2012 11:04pm
Apples to oranges. The Browns passed up on rapistberger, they didnt consider to give up 4 to 5 draft picks. If RG3 falls to the Browns then by all means draft him.BR1986FB;1095918 wrote:Not going to argue about it but how did that drafting Roethlisberger work out for the Browns? Oh yeah they didn't, Butch Davis chose to "build the team with weapons" by drafting Winslow instead after telling Roethlisberger he was the pick.
lhslep134
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Feb 26, 2012 4:32am
Great pointlike_that;1095972 wrote:Apples to oranges. The Browns passed up on rapistberger, they didnt consider to give up 4 to 5 draft picks.
said_aouita
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Feb 26, 2012 5:54am
wes_mantooth;1095889 wrote:I don't think it will happen unless Washington is in the mix. How awesome would it be if RG3 slid to #4 just because no one wanted to deal.....the Browns can really do some damage with 2 first rounders
No way, never happen. RGIII is off the board at #2. Who trades with the Rams to get the pick is the question.BR1986FB;1095892 wrote:That would be the perfect storm.
OneBuckeye
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Feb 26, 2012 9:05am
RGIII just laid down a 4.41 in his first 40 attempt. Didn't look like he got off the line very good either.
OneBuckeye
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Feb 26, 2012 9:13am
and a 4.38 in the second...
killer_ewok
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Feb 26, 2012 9:30am
Michael Floyd just ran a 4.42. Pretty damn good.
wes_mantooth
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Feb 26, 2012 10:04am
Has Wright or Jeffrey ran it yet?
iclfan2
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Feb 26, 2012 10:18am
Jeffrey pulled out of running. RED FLAG. Btw, someone else timed RGIII at 4.34. Ridiculous.
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BR1986FB
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Feb 26, 2012 10:36am
I'm not advocating giving up their whole draft for him but if it takes both 1st's and another pick, pull the trigger. I wouldn't give up any more than that.like_that;1095972 wrote:Apples to oranges. The Browns passed up on rapistberger, they didnt consider to give up 4 to 5 draft picks. If RG3 falls to the Browns then by all means draft him.
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BR1986FB
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Feb 26, 2012 10:48am
RG4.3OneBuckeye;1096120 wrote:and a 4.38 in the second...
iclfan2
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Feb 26, 2012 10:48am
wes_mantooth
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Feb 26, 2012 11:02am
this is why Dan Snyder is awful. If the Browns beat that offer...I would be pissed.iclfan2;1096171 wrote:Howard Eskin, some NBC sports guy somewhere tweeted this today: I'm told by people within Redskins they are prepared to offer picks 1,2 and 3 this year, at least a 1 next year to move up to get RG3 at 2. The Browns would have a hard time beating that, since they have so many holes to fill.
like_that
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Feb 26, 2012 11:03am
Ok, I'm on the same page there. What Clayton was suggesting was just ridiculous.BR1986FB;1096160 wrote:I'm not advocating giving up their whole draft for him but if it takes both 1st's and another pick, pull the trigger. I wouldn't give up any more than that.
like_that
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Feb 26, 2012 11:04am
As i was saying, it's not worth it to offer such a deal to move up 2 spots for a guy that we have no idea how his game will translate in the NFL. Dan Synder has always been a fucking idiot. If he does this, I hope it sets them back.iclfan2;1096171 wrote:Howard Eskin, some NBC sports guy somewhere tweeted this today: I'm told by people within Redskins they are prepared to offer picks 1,2 and 3 this year, at least a 1 next year to move up to get RG3 at 2. The Browns would have a hard time beating that, since they have so many holes to fill.