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BR1986FB
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Feb 24, 2012 3:13pm
If they stay put at 22 and he's still on the board, I think I'd much rather have Cordy Glenn over Adams.Mulva;1094760 wrote:NFL.com has player grades on the combine page. They all seem about right, with one notable exception.
Mike Adams is graded at 54.0. 50-69 is a draftable player grade, round 4-7 stock. Players in the high end of the category might have long-term potential, but clearly 54 is not in the high range.
That seemed unusual.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Feb 24, 2012 3:38pm
Not sure if this has been mentioned but the rumor is that Washington is offering St Louis their first, next years first and a third.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Feb 24, 2012 4:29pm
After reading senior bowl reports, I don't think he's a tackle, even on the right side. He could be an absolute mauler at guard though.BR1986FB;1094821 wrote:If they stay put at 22 and he's still on the board, I think I'd much rather have Cordy Glenn over Adams.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Feb 24, 2012 5:15pm
wes_mantooth;1094836 wrote:Not sure if this has been mentioned but the rumor is that Washington is offering St Louis their first, next years first and a third.
The browns should counter with the firsts this year and a 4th I better deal than Washington cause of the 4th pick
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Feb 24, 2012 5:21pm
Crimson streak;1094889 wrote:The browns should counter with the firsts this year and a 4th I better deal than Washington cause of the 4th pick
I guess it basically depends on what St Louis thinks Washington will do next year.....that could be a top ten pick again
Crimson streak
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Feb 24, 2012 5:32pm
True honestly I would give up a 3rd rounder instead of a 4th. How many 3rd rounders actually make an impact. About 30%?
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Feb 24, 2012 5:38pm
Price of that Rams pick went up today with RGIII measuring in the way he did.
His size was one of the main concerns, and that's off the board now.
As I said in the Browns thread, Minnesota holds the key I think on what the Browns would have to pay. If they become a lock to take Kalil (who I think St. Louis really wants) then I think the price gets higher for the Browns to move up as Jeff Fisher is not a draft a WR at #4 kind of guy (Blackmon).
Without Kalil to fall back on, I think they try and go for volume as far as the number of picks they get back, where as if Kalil is there at 4 they might be likely to take a lesser package from the Browns if it means still being able to draft him.
His size was one of the main concerns, and that's off the board now.
As I said in the Browns thread, Minnesota holds the key I think on what the Browns would have to pay. If they become a lock to take Kalil (who I think St. Louis really wants) then I think the price gets higher for the Browns to move up as Jeff Fisher is not a draft a WR at #4 kind of guy (Blackmon).
Without Kalil to fall back on, I think they try and go for volume as far as the number of picks they get back, where as if Kalil is there at 4 they might be likely to take a lesser package from the Browns if it means still being able to draft him.
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BR1986FB
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Feb 24, 2012 8:10pm
I've actually heard that Washington spoke extensively with Weeden and may actually trade DOWN in the draft.wes_mantooth;1094836 wrote:Not sure if this has been mentioned but the rumor is that Washington is offering St Louis their first, next years first and a third.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Feb 24, 2012 8:45pm
BR1986FB;1095006 wrote:I've actually heard that Washington spoke extensively with Weeden and may actually trade DOWN in the draft.
Better hope so, because if Snyder really wants rg3, he will get him.
TigerNation10
Posts: 483
Feb 24, 2012 8:47pm
One of the biggest surprises to me was Alshon Jeffrey measuring in at 6'3'' 218. Yes, 218 lbs.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Feb 24, 2012 8:50pm
TigerNation10;1095038 wrote:One of the biggest surprises to me was Alshon Jeffrey measuring in at 6'3'' 218. Yes, 218 lbs.
That is awesome for him.....he will probably move up just because of that
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Feb 24, 2012 8:59pm
"he's a pussy"Mulva;1094812 wrote:"Adams is not a very exciting player and can struggle at times with effort-based issues that don't allow him to get much movement on the line when run blocking. He is more of a catch and react blocker than one who delivers blows, and will need to play with more fire and look to unleash his inner-athleticism to be able to succeed at the next level."
Pretty much, yeah.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 24, 2012 9:03pm
Heard Shugarts put up some good numbers at the combine last week.
j_crazy
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Feb 24, 2012 9:04pm
queencitybuckeye;1095050 wrote:Heard Shugarts put up some good numbers at the combine last week.
Ba-zing
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Feb 24, 2012 9:10pm
Officially on the RG3 bandwagon
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Feb 25, 2012 10:25am
I guess Mike Adams is coming back down to earth. Only 19 reps, which already has many questioning his work ethic. Not good for a guy that everybody knows is a character concern.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/25/ohio-states-adams-underwhelming-at-combine/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/25/ohio-states-adams-underwhelming-at-combine/
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Feb 25, 2012 11:13am
I really hope so. Prob' better long term for RGiii to go to Washington but personally I'd rather see him in the home uni's at the mistake on the lake.Crimson streak;1094889 wrote:The browns should counter with the firsts this year and a 4th I better deal than Washington cause of the 4th pick
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Feb 25, 2012 11:14am
Welcome. I'm tellin' ya....he's gonna be better then Luck.KR1245;1095061 wrote:Officially on the RG3 bandwagon
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Feb 25, 2012 11:15am
Welcome!KR1245;1095061 wrote:Officially on the RG3 bandwagon
Rgiii gonna be better then Luck.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Feb 25, 2012 11:19am
Is he going to be better than Luck?
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Feb 25, 2012 11:20am
Is rgiii better than Luck is going to be?
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Feb 25, 2012 11:23am
The lag/glitches (whatever) of this website can be frustrating. Try to edit things and end up with duplicate posts.bases_loaded;1095353 wrote:Is rgiii better than Luck is going to be?
Hope this helps.
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Feb 25, 2012 12:06pm
bases_loaded;1095352 wrote:Is he going to be better than Luck?
Any other ways you would like to ask the same question?bases_loaded;1095353 wrote:Is rgiii better than Luck is going to be?
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Feb 25, 2012 12:41pm
said_aouita;1095386 wrote:Any other ways you would like to ask the same question?
Luck < RGIII?
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BR1986FB
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Feb 25, 2012 6:15pm
To be honest, offensive tackles with their long arms historically don't do well in the bench press. It's the Oompa Loompa guards with their barrel chests and T-Rex arms that typically rip off the reps. I've had recent concerns about Adams but a 19 rep showing on the bench wouldn't be one of them. It's all leverage with that lift.jpake1;1095323 wrote:I guess Mike Adams is coming back down to earth. Only 19 reps, which already has many questioning his work ethic. Not good for a guy that everybody knows is a character concern.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/25/ohio-states-adams-underwhelming-at-combine/