Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Feb 17, 2012 1:40pm
did ND even make a bowl game while Clausen was there?..My memory isnt the greatest but im pretty sure they sucked.sjmvsfscs08;1088873 wrote:In the NFL? None, in limited time as a rookie on the worst team in the league. They were sooooo young and abysmal.
Call me biased but he will hang around in the NFL and surprise everyone saying that he is terrible, he was absolutely unstoppable at Notre Dame when they finally got their offense together.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Feb 17, 2012 1:45pm
The excuse then was that they had the worst defense in college football. Thus why they didn't make a NC. Not sure about bowl game though.Pick6;1088904 wrote:did ND even make a bowl game while Clausen was there?..My memory isnt the greatest but im pretty sure they sucked.
grodt
Posts: 1,588
Feb 17, 2012 2:17pm
Pick6;1088904 wrote:did ND even make a bowl game while Clausen was there?..My memory isnt the greatest but im pretty sure they sucked.
I see this deteriorating quickly, but to answer the question yes they did. In 2008 they played in the Hawaii Bowl and won.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Feb 17, 2012 2:31pm
Adam sheftler made a very interesting point about mike Wallace. If a team was smart they could give him a big roster bonus and it hits the cap right away and the steelers are way over the cap so if they want to keep mike Wallace they have to cut a lot of people. If the browns could give up there 22nd instead of the 4th I would do it in a second.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Feb 17, 2012 2:34pm
lol that would be a pwn.Crimson streak;1088983 wrote:Adam sheftler made a very interesting point about mike Wallace. If a team was smart they could give him a big roster bonus and it hits the cap right away and the steelers are way over the cap so if they want to keep mike Wallace they have to cut a lot of people. If the browns could give up there 22nd instead of the 4th I would do it in a second.
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sjmvsfscs08
Posts: 2,963
Feb 17, 2012 2:44pm
I don't think you know the definition of awful. A six-year old girl throwing a football is awful, at worst he is a top 100 QB in the world. Awful? GTFO.SportsAndLady;1088886 wrote:LOL
Clausen is awful, and will be out of the NFL in a couple years.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 17, 2012 2:49pm
Are you really playing that card? SMH.sjmvsfscs08;1089012 wrote:I don't think you know the definition of awful. A six-year old girl throwing a football is awful, at worst he is a top 100 QB in the world. Awful? GTFO.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 17, 2012 2:54pm
sjmvsfscs08;1089012 wrote:I don't think you know the definition of awful. A six-year old girl throwing a football is awful, at worst he is a top 100 QB in the world. Awful? GTFO.
Seriously? Lol
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Feb 17, 2012 3:02pm
I want RGIII unless he costs us 22
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Feb 17, 2012 3:13pm
bases_loaded;1089045 wrote:I want RGIII unless he costs us 22
I am ok with that
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Feb 17, 2012 3:22pm
He will cost both first round picks, minimum.bases_loaded;1089045 wrote:I want RGIII unless he costs us 22
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Feb 17, 2012 3:24pm
Technically it only costs one pick, we would swap a pick and lose 22.royal_k;1089088 wrote:He will cost both first round picks, minimum.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Feb 17, 2012 3:26pm
Correctse-alum;1089089 wrote:Technically it only costs one pick, we would swap a pick and lose 22.
I was just implying it would cost the 22nd as well.
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sjmvsfscs08
Posts: 2,963
Feb 17, 2012 3:34pm
Well let's use Occam's Razor for a moment, shall we?SportsAndLady;1089031 wrote:Seriously? Lol
Scenario one:
--Called a "once in a decade" QB and the #1 recruit in his class.
--Commonly considered the most talented and accurate QB in Notre Dame history.
--Had a great 28-4 TD-INT season his final year at ND, and one of the best QB ratings in the country.
--Led one of the best passing offense in the country in 2009.
--#3 QB taken in the NFL draft in 2010.
--Played on the worst team in the NFL as a rookie and sucked mightily.
Scenario two:
--Jimmy Clausen suddenly became an "awful" quarterback when he was drafting by the Panthers.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm...............
Plenty of guys have sucked with bad systems/teams, plenty more sucked as rookies. To say he's "awful" is fucking retarded.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Feb 17, 2012 3:37pm
Scenario A: Compare an NFL QB to the population as a whole (six year old girls)
Scenario B: Compare an NFL QB to the collegiate level, using collegiate stats
Scenario C: Compare an NFL QB to his peer group, other NFL QBs
I know which one makes the most sense to me. The only reason to make an absolute comparison rather than a relative comparison is because relatively he doesn't stack up.
Scenario B: Compare an NFL QB to the collegiate level, using collegiate stats
Scenario C: Compare an NFL QB to his peer group, other NFL QBs
I know which one makes the most sense to me. The only reason to make an absolute comparison rather than a relative comparison is because relatively he doesn't stack up.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 17, 2012 3:38pm
Lol wow, how delusional are you? How much ND bias do you have stored up in that brain of yours?sjmvsfscs08;1089100 wrote:Well let's use Occam's Razor for a moment, shall we?
Scenario one:
--Called a "once in a decade" QB and the #1 recruit in his class.
--Commonly considered the most talented and accurate QB in Notre Dame history.
--Had a great 28-4 TD-INT season his final year at ND, and one of the best QB ratings in the country.
--Led one of the best passing offense in the country in 2009.
--#3 QB taken in the NFL draft in 2010.
--Played on the worst team in the NFL as a rookie and sucked mightily.
Scenario two:
--Jimmy Clausen suddenly became an "awful" quarterback when he was drafting by the Panthers.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm...............
Plenty of guys have sucked with bad systems/teams, plenty more sucked as rookies. To say he's "awful" is fucking retarded.
Some players are good in college, and suck in the NFL. Happens EVERY YEAR. Jimmy Clausen is one of those people.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 17, 2012 3:38pm
Haha +1Mulva;1089107 wrote:Scenario A: Compare an NFL QB to the population as a whole (six year old girls)
Scenario B: Compare an NFL QB to the collegiate level, using collegiate stats
Scenario C: Compare an NFL QB to his peer group, other NFL QBs
I know which one makes the most sense to me. The only reason to make an absolute comparison rather than a relative comparison is because relatively he doesn't stack up.
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sjmvsfscs08
Posts: 2,963
Feb 17, 2012 3:46pm
Agreed. But you act like there's a 0% chance he will ever amount of anything in the NFL and it's not that uncommon for a guy to change his situation and system and succeed.SportsAndLady;1089108 wrote:Some players are good in college, and suck in the NFL. Happens EVERY YEAR. Jimmy Clausen is one of those people.
And I wasn't just using college stats, he has an entire lifetime of elite accomplishments. I think it's silly to look at one horrible year with a horrible team and assume he is pathetic now for the NFL game.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 17, 2012 4:41pm
This isn't about Colt McCoy.SportsAndLady;1089108 wrote:Lol wow, how delusional are you? How much ND bias do you have stored up in that brain of yours?
Some players are good in college, and suck in the NFL. Happens EVERY YEAR. Jimmy Clausen is one of those people.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 17, 2012 4:42pm
That is exactly what happened with Steve Young. It can and does happen.sjmvsfscs08;1089113 wrote:Agreed. But you act like there's a 0% chance he will ever amount of anything in the NFL and it's not that uncommon for a guy to change his situation and system and succeed.
And I wasn't just using college stats, he has an entire lifetime of elite accomplishments. I think it's silly to look at one horrible year with a horrible team and assume he is pathetic now for the NFL game.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Feb 17, 2012 4:52pm
Just read browns will franchise DQ if deal can't be made by start of FA.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 17, 2012 4:57pm
And you say you don't troll LOLSkyhook79;1089149 wrote:This isn't about Colt McCoy.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 17, 2012 4:57pm
ND fans LOLsjmvsfscs08;1089113 wrote:Agreed. But you act like there's a 0% chance he will ever amount of anything in the NFL and it's not that uncommon for a guy to change his situation and system and succeed.
And I wasn't just using college stats, he has an entire lifetime of elite accomplishments. I think it's silly to look at one horrible year with a horrible team and assume he is pathetic now for the NFL game.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 17, 2012 5:07pm
Agreed.SportsAndLady;1089162 wrote:All I do is troll LOL
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Feb 17, 2012 5:34pm
or Tebow.Skyhook79;1089149 wrote:This isn't about Colt McCoy.