2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

Pro Sports 13,384 replies 500,717 views
lhslep134's avatar
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Feb 16, 2012 10:17am
Y-Town Steelhound;1087515 wrote:Clausen still has a better arm than McCoy....just sayin'
Clausen graded out to an 8.6 McCoy to an 7.6 according to the NFL's draft analysts, plus Clausen was taken over McCoy.

Not saying Clausen is better because we've seen plenty of QBs outperform those taken in front of them, but kind of just using it as more of a basis for my Panthers/Browns comparison.
Y-Town Steelhound's avatar
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Feb 16, 2012 10:26am
like_that;1087524 wrote:Yeah, I was about to edit my post and say that. I still think McCoy is better.
I agree, mostly because I'd rather have Colt McCoy's toughness/leadership than Clausen's whiny/egotistical attitude.
Mulva's avatar
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Feb 16, 2012 3:22pm
What flashes did Clausen show?
shook_17's avatar
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Feb 16, 2012 4:26pm
Mulva;1087929 wrote:What flashes did Clausen show?
sucking ass
Skyhook79's avatar
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 16, 2012 4:52pm
Mulva;1087929 wrote:What flashes did Clausen show?
What flashes did McCoy show? Maybe they are more similar.
like_that's avatar
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 16, 2012 5:30pm
Skyhook79;1088023 wrote:What flashes did McCoy show? Maybe they are more similar.
You can start with his 80 or so yard drive to beat the Dolphins.
Skyhook79's avatar
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 16, 2012 6:14pm
like_that;1088054 wrote:You can start with his 80 or so yard drive to beat the Dolphins.
Is that the same Dolphin team that Tebow came back on from being down 15-0 and you said big deal it was the Dolphins?
like_that's avatar
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 16, 2012 6:19pm
Skyhook79;1088104 wrote:Is that the same Dolphin team that Tebow came back on from being down 15-0 and you said big deal it was the Dolphins?
Link?
Mulva's avatar
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Feb 16, 2012 6:20pm
Skyhook79;1088023 wrote:What flashes did McCoy show? Maybe they are more similar.
Rookie numbers

Clausen: 3 TD, 9 INT, 52.5%, 5.2 Y/A, 1-9 record as starter
McCoy: 6 TD, 9 INT, 60.8%, 7.1 Y/A, 2-6 record as starter

Really not even close. Clausen had a QB rating of < 55 in 7 out of the 12 games in which he attempted 13+ passes. Compare that to only 2 games with a QB rating of > 76 (76 would still rank just about dead last in the NFL). He never threw for over 200 yards, and again, 3 touchdowns in 12 games of extended action.

McCoy only had 2 games with a QB rating of lower than 68. His QB rating was 80+ 5/8 games, and over 100 twice. Passed for at least 200 yards 5 times. He wasn't good, but he definitely showed flashes.

Clausen showed nothing.

McCoy didn't improve this year. That's why he's going to be replaced. But his numbers this season were still way better than anything Clausen ever put up.
Pick6's avatar
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Feb 16, 2012 6:23pm
^^^ not to mention McCoy plays in the toughest division in the league.
Skyhook79's avatar
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 16, 2012 6:59pm
Pick6;1088110 wrote:^^^ not to mention McCoy plays in the toughest division in the league.
Rookie Andy Daulton didn't seem to struggle in the "toughest division in the league" and Joe Flacco went undefeated in the "toughest Division in the league".
like_that's avatar
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 16, 2012 7:14pm
Skyhook79;1088139 wrote:Rookie Andy Daulton didn't seem to struggle in the "toughest division in the league" and Joe Flacco went undefeated in the "toughest Division in the league".
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?31434-2012-Cleveland-Browns-offseason-thread.-AKA-factory-of-sadness-thread&p=1088107&viewfull=1#post1088107
Skyhook79's avatar
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 16, 2012 8:40pm
like_that;1088107 wrote:Link?
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/
like_that's avatar
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 16, 2012 8:41pm
Skyhook79;1088260 wrote:http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/
Nice to see you admit to making shit up. Nice fail.
Skyhook79's avatar
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 16, 2012 8:48pm
like_that;1088263 wrote:Nice to see you admit to making shit up. Nice fail.
I gave you the link, which is what you asked for, quit being lazy and find it yourself it's not like you have something better to do.
like_that's avatar
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 16, 2012 8:57pm
Skyhook79;1088274 wrote:I will just continue to spew bullshit, because I have nothing.
k, thanks.
lhslep134's avatar
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Feb 16, 2012 8:59pm
Skyhook79;1088274 wrote:I gave you the link, which is what you asked for, quit being lazy and find it yourself it's not like you have something better to do.
You refuse to look up what he asked, yet he's the lazy one?

#logicfail /skyhook'd
like_that's avatar
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 16, 2012 9:01pm
lhslep134;1088280 wrote:You refuse to look up what he asked, yet he's the lazy one?

#logicfail /skyhook'd
I'd rep you, but i have to wait 24 hours. I wasted all my reps on everyone who pwned skyhook in this thread http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?31559-Cut-out-the-personal-attacks-and-over-the-top-name-calling&p=1087506&viewfull=1#post1087506
Skyhook79's avatar
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 17, 2012 8:21am
lhslep134;1088280 wrote:You refuse to look up what he asked, yet he's the lazy one?

#logicfail /skyhook'd
I Have better things to do he doesn't. Do you do everything someone tells you to do?
like_that's avatar
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 17, 2012 8:27am
Skyhook79;1088614 wrote:I Have better things to do he doesn't. Do you do everything someone tells you to do?
Trolling takes up a lot of your time I see. Still waiting for your link.
Skyhook79's avatar
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 17, 2012 9:09am
like_that;1088618 wrote:Trolling takes up a lot of your time I see. Still waiting for your link.

S
sjmvsfscs08
Posts: 2,963
Feb 17, 2012 1:04pm
Mulva;1087929 wrote:What flashes did Clausen show?
In the NFL? None, in limited time as a rookie on the worst team in the league. They were sooooo young and abysmal.

Call me biased but he will hang around in the NFL and surprise everyone saying that he is terrible, he was absolutely unstoppable at Notre Dame when they finally got their offense together.
SportsAndLady's avatar
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 17, 2012 1:16pm
sjmvsfscs08;1088873 wrote:In the NFL? None, in limited time as a rookie on the worst team in the league. They were sooooo young and abysmal.

Call me biased but he will hang around in the NFL and surprise everyone saying that he is terrible, he was absolutely unstoppable at Notre Dame when they finally got their offense together.
LOL

Clausen is awful, and will be out of the NFL in a couple years.