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stlouiedipalma
Posts: 1,797
Aug 4, 2012 7:29pm
For that matter, Art and Pat Modell did plently in the community with their charitable work.SportsAndLady;1240225 wrote:I have no doubt in my mind the Lerner's are great people...just not fit to run an NFL team in today's world.
I'm quite sure that Jimmy Haslam can and will support local charities and be a positive influence in the Cleveland area. Let's hope he makes it even better by putting together a top-flight organization and a much-improved product on the field. If that happens he could be the best executive Cleveland has seen in many, many years.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Aug 5, 2012 10:18am
That hit would get you a week off and a heavy fine.BR1986FB;1240254 wrote:Brief recap of today...love that the smallish Skrine lit up the 315 lb Cousins...
http://networkedblogs.com/AE8wf
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Sonofanump
Aug 5, 2012 2:33pm
What was illegal about it?Footwedge;1240410 wrote:That hit would get you a week off and a heavy fine.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Aug 5, 2012 2:42pm
Not really dreaming about it...just saying doing that and getting an Andrew Luck is a lot better than having 8-8 seasons year after year.Sonofanump;1240140 wrote:One step closer to the 0-16 season that you have been dreaming about.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 5, 2012 3:27pm
When did this happen? Did I miss the memo? Browns fans should be tickled to death with back-to-back 8-8 seasons after the shit sandwiches we've been eating since 1999.SportsAndLady;1240484 wrote:Not really dreaming about it...just saying doing that and getting an Andrew Luck is a lot better than having 8-8 seasons year after year.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Aug 5, 2012 4:19pm
Sorry just because we've been dogshit doesn't mean i'll settle for mediocrity.BR1986FB;1240498 wrote:When did this happen? Did I miss the memo? Browns fans should be tickled to death with back-to-back 8-8 seasons after the shit sandwiches we've been eating since 1999.
And it didn't happen, it's just my prediction for the Weeden era. Obviously I hope i'm wrong and he's the next Peyton Manning...just don't have much confidence in me being wrong here.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 5, 2012 4:32pm
I think you know me better by now than to think I'll settle for mediocrity. I'm the one who wants to win NOW, not tank a season so we can get Mark Sanchez Jr (Barkley).SportsAndLady;1240525 wrote:Sorry just because we've been dogshit doesn't mean i'll settle for mediocrity.
And it didn't happen, it's just my prediction for the Weeden era. Obviously I hope i'm wrong and he's the next Peyton Manning...just don't have much confidence in me being wrong here.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 5, 2012 4:40pm
As you all probably already know, I wasn't a fan and still not a fan of the Weeden pick. That being said, he really doesn't have to be "great," or "elite" for this team to compete imo.
It looks like the Browns are modeling their team off of what the Texans have done. Great defense, great line, great running game (both of their RBs do great), and set up the long pass with the play action. Schaub isn't a "great" QB imo. He is good though, and the line/running game makes him look a lot better imo. The Texans were the best team in the AFC last year imo, until Schaub went down, and they still were very competitive with their 3rd string rookie QB. I am hoping at the very least Weeden can provide what Schaub has done for the Texans, that's of course assuming the Browns line and running game is great, which I think it very well can be.
It looks like the Browns are modeling their team off of what the Texans have done. Great defense, great line, great running game (both of their RBs do great), and set up the long pass with the play action. Schaub isn't a "great" QB imo. He is good though, and the line/running game makes him look a lot better imo. The Texans were the best team in the AFC last year imo, until Schaub went down, and they still were very competitive with their 3rd string rookie QB. I am hoping at the very least Weeden can provide what Schaub has done for the Texans, that's of course assuming the Browns line and running game is great, which I think it very well can be.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 5, 2012 4:44pm
Which is funny because you know pre-draft when they compare who a player to be drafted can be compared to (currently in the league)? A few said Weeden's upside was that of Matt Schaub.like_that;1240536 wrote:As you all probably already know, I wasn't a fan and still not a fan of the Weeden pick. That being said, he really doesn't have to be "great," or "elite" for this team to compete imo.
It looks like the Browns are modeling their team off of what the Texans have done. Great defense, great line, great running game (both of their RBs do great), and set up the long pass with the play action. Schaub isn't a "great" QB imo. He is good though, and the line/running game makes him look a lot better imo. The Texans were the best team in the AFC last year imo, until Schaub went down, and they still were very competitive with their 3rd string rookie QB. I am hoping at the very least Weeden can provide what Schaub has done for the Texans, that's of course assuming the Browns line and running game is great, which I think it very well can be.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Aug 5, 2012 4:55pm
Well stated. Even TJ Yates moved that team...and he has nowhere near the natural ability of Weedon. You need talent to move the ball in the NFL. You also need offensive geniuses to open up holes in the secondary. Barring injuries, the Browns have both.like_that;1240536 wrote:As you all probably already know, I wasn't a fan and still not a fan of the Weeden pick. That being said, he really doesn't have to be "great," or "elite" for this team to compete imo.
It looks like the Browns are modeling their team off of what the Texans have done. Great defense, great line, great running game (both of their RBs do great), and set up the long pass with the play action. Schaub isn't a "great" QB imo. He is good though, and the line/running game makes him look a lot better imo. The Texans were the best team in the AFC last year imo, until Schaub went down, and they still were very competitive with their 3rd string rookie QB. I am hoping at the very least Weeden can provide what Schaub has done for the Texans, that's of course assuming the Browns line and running game is great, which I think it very well can be.
We have already been slugged in the mouth losing GoCong and for a half season, Taylor. We need to stay healthy.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 5, 2012 4:58pm
Well, I hope he has more upside than that, but if he contributes as well as Schaub has for the Texans, I don't think we will be disappointed. The only elite QB in the division (and I hate giving the POS scumbag credit) is Rapistberger.BR1986FB;1240538 wrote:Which is funny because you know pre-draft when they compare who a player to be drafted can be compared to (currently in the league)? A few said Weeden's upside was that of Matt Schaub.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Aug 5, 2012 4:59pm
I have no idea. And from what I saw last year, neither do the refs. It just seems that any "decleater" somehow draws a flag these days.Sonofanump;1240481 wrote:What was illegal about it?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 5, 2012 5:00pm
It's sounding like Taylor will be ready to go by week 6.Footwedge;1240551 wrote:Well stated. Even TJ Yates moved that team...and he has nowhere near the natural ability of Weedon. You need talent to move the ball in the NFL. You also need offensive geniuses to open up holes in the secondary. Barring injuries, the Browns have both.
We have already been slugged in the mouth losing GoCong and for a half season, Taylor. We need to stay healthy.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Aug 5, 2012 5:09pm
That would be excellent, because our run D blows. Hopefully a healthy Ward will help though.like_that;1240558 wrote:It's sounding like Taylor will be ready to go by week 6.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Aug 5, 2012 6:01pm
I don't think you give schaub enough credit. He's an easy top 10 qb when healthy.like_that;1240555 wrote:Well, I hope he has more upside than that, but if he contributes as well as Schaub has for the Texans, I don't think we will be disappointed. The only elite QB in the division (and I hate giving the POS scumbag credit) is Rapistberger.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Aug 5, 2012 6:30pm
I never thought the Texans as anywhere near the best team in the AFC, even with Schaub.
Everyone knew it was going to be NE, Pittsburgh, or Baltimore.
Everyone knew it was going to be NE, Pittsburgh, or Baltimore.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 5, 2012 6:37pm
I didn't. They were a hell of a team with Schaub, and should have beaten Baltimore in the playoffs without Schaub. They already took care of Pittsburgh.SportsAndLady;1240597 wrote:I never thought the Texans as anywhere near the best team in the AFC, even with Schaub.
Everyone knew it was going to be NE, Pittsburgh, or Baltimore.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Aug 5, 2012 6:46pm
I don't agree with that at all.SportsAndLady;1240597 wrote:I never thought the Texans as anywhere near the best team in the AFC, even with Schaub.
Everyone knew it was going to be NE, Pittsburgh, or Baltimore.
I think with Shaub they are the most well rounded team in football. Great running game, good passing game and a very good defense.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Aug 5, 2012 6:49pm
Mehwes_mantooth;1240608 wrote:I don't agree with that at all.
I think with Shaub they are the most well rounded team in football. Great running game, good passing game and a very good defense.
They were good no doubt, but not great...and I had Foster on my fantasy team so I loved them. Never thought they'd come out of the AFC over the other 3 teams though.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Aug 5, 2012 6:51pm
Well, I never thought that the Pats defense would hold up, and you never know what Flacco will do....and you most certainly don't know if big ben is going to stay out of jail...so I thought they were the safest bet.SportsAndLady;1240611 wrote:Meh
They were good no doubt, but not great...and I had Foster on my fantasy team so I loved them. Never thought they'd come out of the AFC over the other 3 teams though.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 5, 2012 7:43pm
Agree 100%. Until they established that 1-2 punch at RB their offense was Schaub/Andre Johnson. Now, with the running game, a helluva defense AND the Schaub/Johnson combo, they are the most well rounded team in football. Had Schaub not been injured, I'm confident they would've been the AFC rep in this last Super Bowl.wes_mantooth;1240608 wrote:
I think with Shaub they are the most well rounded team in football. Great running game, good passing game and a very good defense.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 5, 2012 7:52pm
+1. I can see them being the AFC rep this season. Their division became very weak very quickly.BR1986FB;1240636 wrote:Agree 100%. Until they established that 1-2 punch at RB their offense was Schaub/Andre Johnson. Now, with the running game, a helluva defense AND the Schaub/Johnson combo, they are the most well rounded team in football. Had Schaub not been injured, I'm confident they would've been the AFC rep in this last Super Bowl.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 5, 2012 8:00pm
And in 2009 Schaub threw for 4700+ yards, 29 TD's/15 INT's...In 2010... 4300+ yards, 24 TD's/12 INT's....would anyone be "ok" with those type of stats from Weeden along with what T-Rich is gonna put up on the ground? I would.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Aug 5, 2012 8:07pm
Shaub is solid....having a great back and an elite receiver makes him that much better. Lets hope Weeden has these weapons soon too.BR1986FB;1240653 wrote:And in 2009 Schaub threw for 4700+ yards, 29 TD's/15 INT's...In 2010... 4300+ yards, 24 TD's/12 INT's....would anyone be "ok" with those type of stats from Weeden along with what T-Rich is gonna put up on the ground? I would.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Aug 5, 2012 8:13pm
...Breaking: Usain Bolt interested in Browns tryout.......