BR1986FB;1155044 wrote:Now hearing Colt McCoy trade may be for another player (wide receiver) from the Packers? Heard it may be James Jones or Randall Cobb.

LMAO, sign me up for that. That would be a trade rape.

BR1986FB;1155044 wrote:Now hearing Colt McCoy trade may be for another player (wide receiver) from the Packers? Heard it may be James Jones or Randall Cobb.

Would be happy with either, but Cobb is that playmaker the Browns need at WR.

BR1986FB;1155044 wrote:Now hearing Colt McCoy trade may be for another player (wide receiver) from the Packers? Heard it may be James Jones or Randall Cobb.

why would green bay give up anything of value for a backup qb?

dazedconfused;1155059 wrote:why would green bay give up anything of value for a backup qb?

bc serviceable backup qbs are valuable?

dazedconfused;1155059 wrote:why would green bay give up anything of value for a backup qb?

Browns would likely have to throw in some form of compensation.

Cobb would be nice. But I highly doubt GB would give him up for McCoy...doesn't make any sense at all on their part. They would want some picks back but I don't know. James Jones would be more realistic, although I like Cobb better.

Banks second round mock...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/don_banks/04/27/2012.nfl.draft.second.round.mock/index.html?eref=sircrc

Keep an eye on Brandon Brooks (Miami of Ohio). Hear the Browns like him and the WR they've been targeting is still on the board?

I think a lot of people are expecting the Browns to take him or Randle with that pick...but nobody knows, after their 22nd pick. I thought Hill was going then, but we'll see. Assuming Martin, Mosely? Glenn, Adams go in the 2nd, what's left at OT for the Browns in the 3rd or later?

zach24oz;1155099 wrote:I think a lot of people are expecting the Browns to take him or Randle with that pick...but nobody knows, after their 22nd pick. I thought Hill was going then, but we'll see. Assuming Martin, Mosely? Glenn, Adams go in the 2nd, what's left at OT for the Browns in the 3rd or later?

Mitchell Schwartz, Levy Adcock and perhaps Bobby Massie but Massie is projected mid-2nd.

And aren't there any OTs they can get in FA after the draft? If they knew they could get a guy to come and be the starting RT and draft a backup as a late round, that would work, but that's to hard to assume.

wes_mantooth;1154947 wrote:Man, I just can't stand the idea of having Weeden at QB. He is just not an upgrade in my opinion...and to waste that high of a pick on him....sigh.

I would have been so happy with Trich, Decastro and best available receiver....oh well. We will have a top 5 pick next year, so hopefully we can get it right then.

Dude, he's got a strong arm, which translates into greatness for a QB...just ask Cordell Stewart or Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russell or Heath Shuler. Also college spread QB's often come into the NFL and succeed, just ask....well maybe not, but I'm sure Weeden will be the one to turn that around.

Hill is the guy I want at #37. Hopefully that mock draft plays out.

Marvin Jones could be targeted at WR too. Heckert got one from Cal (D-Jax) already.

Cleveland (1), Dayton (3), Columbus (4) and Cincy (9) rank in Top 10 in markets for ESPN's draft ratings last night.

Ohio Pwns. lol at cincy being in the bottom with 2 first round picks. Not surprised though.

Commander of Awesome;1155126 wrote:Cleveland (1), Dayton (3), Columbus (4) and Cincy (9) rank in Top 10 in markets for ESPN's draft ratings last night.

Ohio Pwns. lol at cincy being in the bottom with 2 first round picks. Not surprised though.

I think Cincinnati had a blackout.

Kirwin's 2nd round mock...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/18859152

zach24oz;1155111 wrote:And aren't there any OTs they can get in FA after the draft? If they knew they could get a guy to come and be the starting RT and draft a backup as a late round, that would work, but that's to hard to assume.

There are always offensive lineman to find late/undrafted. 2 pro bowl guards this year went undrafted.

Also TY Hilton could be a target later...ton of speed. He's from FIU though and 5'10 180...so could be a Desean Jackson player.

lhslep134;1155132 wrote:There are always offensive lineman to find late/undrafted. 2 pro bowl guards this year went undrafted.

Has to be the 20th time you've posted this same thought.

I want Cordy Glenn in the 2nd and Chris Givens in the 3rd

I want Stephen Hill or Alshon Jeffery at 37.

se-alum;1155139 wrote:Has to be the 20th time you've posted this same thought.

I have to keep saying it over and over because I really wanted Decastro over Weeden/wanted to keep McCoy, and have to talk myself out of being pissed lol

I'll stop saying it

lhslep134;1155150 wrote:I have to keep saying it over and over because I really wanted Decastro over Weeden/wanted to keep McCoy, and have to talk myself out of being pissed lol

I'll stop saying it

Haha...I know what ya mean. Decastro(who could've played RT) or Reiff, could've given the Browns a dominant running game, which would greatly help whomever the QB happened to be. I don't hate Weeden, but I wanted him at 37, not 22.

27th April, 2012 - 1:26 pmJeff Risdon/RealGM - Favorite pick: RG3 to Washington. I know, copout pick, but this guy is a star in the making and that franchise desperately needs someone exactly like that. Robert Griffin III is going to be a pretty damn fine quarterback too. I love Michael Floyd to Arizona and Melvin Ingram to the Chargers too.

Most pleasant surprise: David Decastro falling to Pittsburgh. I’m admittedly not his biggest fan but his skill set is an outstanding fit at a position of dire need for the Steelers. I mocked Amini Silatolu (more on him later) because I didn’t expect Decastro to still be available. The Steelers liked the depth at linebacker that they can get on Friday a lot more than they liked the O-line possibilities. In other words, they let the draft come to them and got what they wanted, and they’ll do the same in Rounds 2-3.

Biggest surprise: Almost everyone is going to say Bruce Irvin, but I knew he was going in the first round. Granted he went higher than I thought (I mocked him to New England at 31) but the bigger shock was Dallas moving way up and getting Morris Claiborne. It’s a bold move and they paid a steep price, giving up #14 and their 2nd round pick at #45, but Claiborne was the best defensive player in this draft. Last year, the Cowboys struggled mightily in pass defense, and between the signing of Brandon Carr and trading up for Claiborne they have aggressively addressed it. I was thrilled the move was for Claiborne and not Mark Barron as widely expected, though now safety really sticks out as a glaring hole.

Most underappreciated pick: Tennessee taking Kendall Wright at #20. The Baylor wideout has the kind of speed that can dictate coverages, and that can only help Jake Locker as he transitions to full-time starter at quarterback. He’s also quite proficient at catching bubble screens and quick-hit tosses and turning them into big plays. That’s important because while Wright’s calling card is deep speed, remember Locker completed just 32.7% of his passes longer than 18 yards his last year in college. By way of comparison, RG3 was at 52%.

Worst move: Minnesota trading up a few spots to get Harrison Smith. Minnesota gave up #35 and #98 to obtain the 29th pick from Baltimore and take the Notre Dame safety. The only team picking between #29 and #35 that could have any feasible interest in Smith was the Ravens themselves, so the Vikings essentially surrendered six draft slots and another top 100 pick to make a move they didn’t have to make to get Smith. I know they desperately need a safety and this class is real thin, but Rick Speilman out-thunk himself here.

Most overrated pick: I’m going to put aside my complete disbelief that Chandler Jones is a first round pick and go with the Eagles trading up to get Fletcher Cox. Why? He’s an interior pass rusher on a team that doesn’t lack for pass rushing oomph. Their defense stunk last year at stopping the run and containing the middle of the field. I don’t see how an attacking hybrid DE/DT helps that more than an accomplished run stuffer with arguably equal upside in Michael Brockers still on the board. I’m not thrilled with San Francisco taking A.J. Jenkins either, even though I do tend to like Jenkins more than a lot of people; they took him at least 15 picks prematurely.

Lions reaction: I’m a Lions fan and I’m pretty satisfied with Riley Reiff. For months I’ve labeled him Jeff Backus 2.0, and now they will be the bookend tackles protecting Matt Stafford. Like Backus, Reiff is a very good run blocker but struggles with edge rushers that have more than one way to beat him. He’s an immediate upgrade over the frustrating Gosder Cherilus at right tackle, but I’m secretly hoping Reiff (pronounced Reef) pushes Cherilus to thrive in his contract year. That would allow Reiff to play LT and Backus to shift in to guard, where he is better suited at this point. I’m happy GM Martin Mayhew didn’t force it with a defensive end or corner, although Whitney Mercilus would have been nice.

Browns reaction: Being from Cleveland, I know I have an inordinate amount of readers who are Browns fans. I really like the aggressive move up to secure Trent Richardson at #3. Holmgren and Heckert took no chances that Tampa Bay could jump ahead of them and swipe Richardson, and this also reaffirms that the team is building to compete in their own division. The late-round picks surrendered to move up were unlikely to crack the active lineup any time soon, not with the Browns still holding so many other picks. The Brandon Weeden pick is a bit of a surprise; not that they took him but that they took him in the 1st round. I’ll trust in the opinion that Weeden would not have lasted until #37. Picking him here and given his age, this almost ensures he will be starting ahead of Colt McCoy by November. As long as they come out of the next three rounds with at least one wideout and an offensive lineman, I think the Weeden pick is worth the chance.

Coverage: Loved that the networks agreed to not give away the picks by showing players getting on the phone. That sentiment is shared almost universally and I’m happy they listened to the overwhelming negative feedback from a year ago. The TV coverage was often two picks behind the Twitter feed though. I also appreciated the downsizing of on-camera talent by ESPN. Mel Kiper was solid as always and Gruden is eminently fascinating if not a bit scary, while Chris Berman remains the consummate ringleader and facilitator.

My best players available:
1. Courtney Upshaw
2. Amini Silatolu
3. Devon Still
4. Lavonte David
5. Vinny Curry
6. Jerel Worthy
7. Janoris Jenkins
8. Bobby Massie
9. Cordy Glenn
10. Rueben Randle
11. Lamar Miller
12. Brandon Boykin

A quick mock of the next 15 picks:
33. Rams--Rueben Randle, WR, LSU
34. Colts--Colby Fleener, TE, Stanford
35. Ravens--Amini Silatolu, G, Midwestern State
36. Broncos--Devon Still, DT, Penn State
37. Browns--Cordy Glenn, G/T, Georgia
38. Jaguars--Courtney Upshaw, DE, Alabama
39. Rams--Lamar Miller, RB, Miami FL
40. Panthers--Vinny Curry, DE, Marshall
41. Bills--Bobby Massie, T, Ole Miss
42. Dolphins--Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech
43. Seahawks--Lavonte David, LB, Nebraska
44. Chiefs--Bobby Wagner, LB, Utah State
45. Rams--Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia
46. Eagles--Brock Osweiler, QB, Arizona State
47. Jets--Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina

Read more: http://football.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/26990/20120427/risdons_first_round_breakdown/#ixzz1tGTiXzSC