SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 19, 2012 9:18am
Lol no fucking way this team goes 13,14,15, even 16 losses this year. That's almost laughable..
hell last year was the worst browns team I've ever seen and they snuck 4 wins in there, and were competitive in a lot of games.
McCoy isn't the answer probably but come on we aren't going to be that bad. And even if we are, hello barkley or another top QB prospect. Use logic folks, don't just go panicking because you wanna win now so bad you shit yourself.
hell last year was the worst browns team I've ever seen and they snuck 4 wins in there, and were competitive in a lot of games.
McCoy isn't the answer probably but come on we aren't going to be that bad. And even if we are, hello barkley or another top QB prospect. Use logic folks, don't just go panicking because you wanna win now so bad you shit yourself.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 19, 2012 9:26am
I'd say the 09 Browns team was worse. Least the first 12 games.SportsAndLady;1147806 wrote: hell last year was the worst browns team I've ever seen and they snuck 4 wins in there, and were competitive in a lot of games.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Apr 19, 2012 9:29am
Can't wait!
For all BRs links to the press conference
For all BRs links to the press conference
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 19, 2012 9:32am
And you add value to this forum, how? BTW...who are you?bases_loaded;1147815 wrote:Can't wait!
For all BRs links to the press conference
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Apr 19, 2012 9:40am
It's kind of hard to tell because most times by the last 3-4 games of the season teams that play the Browns are usually resting starters preparing for the playoffs.SportsAndLady;1147806 wrote:Lol no fucking way this team goes 13,14,15, even 16 losses this year. That's almost laughable..
hell last year was the worst browns team I've ever seen and they snuck 4 wins in there, and were competitive in a lot of games.
McCoy isn't the answer probably but come on we aren't going to be that bad. And even if we are, hello barkley or another top QB prospect. Use logic folks, don't just go panicking because you wanna win now so bad you shit yourself.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Apr 19, 2012 9:45am
BR1986FB;1147819 wrote:And you add value to this forum, how? BTW...who are you?
I add my opinion to discussions and occasionally run you off.
Why? You gonna come to my place of residence and beat me up?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 19, 2012 9:51am
LOL...not at all (beat you up).bases_loaded;1147828 wrote:I add my opinion to discussions and occasionally run you off.
Why? You gonna come to my place of residence and beat me up?
Don't recall you "running me off" but I do find it funny that you constantly harp on links that I post on here. There may be a couple of others but, for the most part, the response I've had from the links posted has been pretty positive. As I've mentioned previously, the main reason they are posted is because people are too lazy to do it themselves.
Still don't see your value or really know who you are. I'm familiar with the usual posters on this thread (COA, S&L, Durkie, like_that, etc) but haven't really seen you bring anything to the table.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Apr 19, 2012 10:03am
If the Browns don't trade down(prefer this). I want Richardson, best WR, best lineman with the next 2.
If they do trade down with STL. I want Richardson or Claiborne...best WR, weeden, best OL with the next 3 picks
If they do trade down with STL. I want Richardson or Claiborne...best WR, weeden, best OL with the next 3 picks
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Apr 19, 2012 10:06am
I think it will get real interesting if Kalil slips
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 19, 2012 10:08am
I really want T-Rich at 4 or 6 but I'm getting this feeling they are going to wait and take someone like Pead later. Not a fan of Claiborne (don't think it's a need) at 4 but of the options he's probably BPA.bases_loaded;1147838 wrote:If the Browns don't trade down(prefer this). I want Richardson, best WR, best lineman with the next 2.
If they do trade down with STL. I want Richardson or Claiborne...best WR, weeden, best OL with the next 3 picks
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 19, 2012 10:08am
This is when Heckert needs to slip on his Big Ben "rapin' shoes."wes_mantooth;1147842 wrote:I think it will get real interesting if Kalil slips
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 19, 2012 10:28am
That's why the Steelers played Rapistberger on a hurt ankle in week 17 against the Browns right? Or how about Mendenhall(their starting RB fyi) tearing his ACL in that final game of the season?Skyhook79;1147823 wrote:It's kind of hard to tell because most times by the last 3-4 games of the season teams that play the Browns are usually resting starters preparing for the playoffs.
Nice fail.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 19, 2012 10:29am
Kalil falling to 4 would definitely be best case scenario.BR1986FB;1147847 wrote:This is when Heckert needs to slip on his Big Ben "rapin' shoes."
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 19, 2012 10:32am
Some interesting stuff from Heckert's presser. A Lot of which we already know but a few nice tidbits. Not trying to read too much into it but damn it sounds like he's leaning towards Claiborne.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Apr 19, 2012 10:57am
I personally appreciate the links as I don't always have time to look up these things, so it's nice to come on here and have quick access to pertinent information. If you don't like them, skip the post and move on to the next one.BR1986FB;1147833 wrote:LOL...not at all (beat you up).
Don't recall you "running me off" but I do find it funny that you constantly harp on links that I post on here. There may be a couple of others but, for the most part, the response I've had from the links posted has been pretty positive. As I've mentioned previously, the main reason they are posted is because people are too lazy to do it themselves.
Still don't see your value or really know who you are. I'm familiar with the usual posters on this thread (COA, S&L, Durkie, like_that, etc) but haven't really seen you bring anything to the table.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 19, 2012 10:58am
Hope this is some bullshit (from the presser)...
# Browns GM Tom Heckert said he doesn't buy idea QB Ryan Tannehill could not play right away. Mentioned that Tannehill played in WCO at A&M.
And this...
cott Petrak ‏ @ ScottPetrak
# Browns Heckert called Bama RB Richardson very good player, but said fact that he drafted Hardesty 2 years ago plays a role.
Will Burge ‏ @ WillBurge
# Browns GM Tom Heckert said if those 18 guys w/ 1st-rd. grades are gone at No. 22, he'd try to trade down.
# Browns GM Tom Heckert said he doesn't buy idea QB Ryan Tannehill could not play right away. Mentioned that Tannehill played in WCO at A&M.
And this...
cott Petrak ‏ @ ScottPetrak
# Browns Heckert called Bama RB Richardson very good player, but said fact that he drafted Hardesty 2 years ago plays a role.
Will Burge ‏ @ WillBurge
# Browns GM Tom Heckert said if those 18 guys w/ 1st-rd. grades are gone at No. 22, he'd try to trade down.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 19, 2012 11:11am
Heckertt has said he likes mccoy and thinks he will do fine with added weapons. So I don't know where you are getting this "they hate mccoy" stuff BR. They only went after RG3 because he's a dynamic QB who would instantly upgrade the offense, something Weeden is not.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 19, 2012 11:17am
I feel like he is saying that type of shit about Tannefail to pressure the Dolphins into trading up to the Vikings spot, which in return would put the Browns in great position to have Kalil and trade rape. Just my thoughts.BR1986FB;1147883 wrote:Hope this is some bullshit (from the presser)...
# Browns GM Tom Heckert said he doesn't buy idea QB Ryan Tannehill could not play right away. Mentioned that Tannehill played in WCO at A&M.
And this...
cott Petrak ‏ @ ScottPetrak
# Browns Heckert called Bama RB Richardson very good player, but said fact that he drafted Hardesty 2 years ago plays a role.
Will Burge ‏ @ WillBurge# Browns GM Tom Heckert said they have about 18 guys with 1st round grades but is confident one of those guys will be there at 22
# Browns GM Tom Heckert said if those 18 guys w/ 1st-rd. grades are gone at No. 22, he'd try to trade down.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 19, 2012 11:17am
I don't believe I've actually said THEY "hate" McCoy.DeyDurkie5;1147896 wrote:Heckertt has said he likes mccoy and thinks he will do fine with added weapons. So I don't know where you are getting this "they hate mccoy" stuff BR. They only went after RG3 because he's a dynamic QB who would instantly upgrade the offense, something Weeden is not.
I seriously doubt a GM is going to say "our QB really sucks" when he may have no other option and be stuck with him. Just like much of what Heckert is saying is fiction/smokescreens about who he will draft, the same can be said for his comments about McCoy.
Guess we'll just have to wait a week to see what they do.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 19, 2012 11:19am
Hope this is correct because I want no part of a QB that high that won't start immediately.like_that;1147900 wrote:I feel like he is saying that type of shit about Tannefail to pressure the Dolphins into trading up to the Vikings spot, which in return would put the Browns in great position to have Kalil and trade rape. Just my thoughts.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 19, 2012 11:25am
I want no part of Tannehill. I'd rather have Weeden in the 6th round than wasting a 1st round pick on a guy who will sit behind a 3rd round pick for at least a year.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Apr 19, 2012 11:34am
With all of the glaring needs the Browns have on offense (not including QB), if they select Tannehill at 4, they deserve to get the ax. That is the type of pick that sets a franchise back AGAIN.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Apr 19, 2012 11:37am
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1147910 wrote:With all of the glaring needs the Browns have on offense (not including QB), if they select Tannehill at 4, they deserve to get the ax. That is the type of pick that sets a franchise back AGAIN.
Yeah....that would be a disaster
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 19, 2012 11:38am
At least we're ALL in agreement on no Tannehill at 4. That's a refreshing change...
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Apr 19, 2012 11:41am
Brandon Weeden - QB - Player
After doing tape study of Oklahoma State, NFL Films' Greg Cosell describes Brandon Weeden as the best pure "pocket passer" in the draft.
Cosell concedes that Weeden gets into trouble in a muddied pocket, however, and is "not very good in the eye of the storm." Weeden rarely faced high-pressure situations in a Big 12 conference virtually devoid of pass rush behind an Oklahoma State offensive line long on talent. Weeden will likely be drafted in the second round, but his performance under pressure is a red flag.
With this evaluation, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Browns take Weeden ONLY AFTER they secure their RT opening. If a guy is a great pocket passed but can't pass under pressure, they better make sure there is very little pressure coming his way if they want to be successful
After doing tape study of Oklahoma State, NFL Films' Greg Cosell describes Brandon Weeden as the best pure "pocket passer" in the draft.
Cosell concedes that Weeden gets into trouble in a muddied pocket, however, and is "not very good in the eye of the storm." Weeden rarely faced high-pressure situations in a Big 12 conference virtually devoid of pass rush behind an Oklahoma State offensive line long on talent. Weeden will likely be drafted in the second round, but his performance under pressure is a red flag.
With this evaluation, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Browns take Weeden ONLY AFTER they secure their RT opening. If a guy is a great pocket passed but can't pass under pressure, they better make sure there is very little pressure coming his way if they want to be successful