BR1986FB;1147404 wrote:Need a QB

we've got one

DeyDurkie5;1147405 wrote:we've got one

that is the thing....I am all for getting a qb, but Weeden and Tannehill are just reaches because people are desperate. Put the weapons in place and if colt fails, go after the qb next year. It sucks to worry about next year, but only so many holes can get filled with a team this bad.

DeyDurkie5;1147405 wrote:we've got one

Why bring Seneca into this?

wes_mantooth;1147407 wrote:that is the thing....I am all for getting a qb, but Weeden and Tannehill are just reaches because people are desperate. Put the weapons in place and if colt fails, go after the qb next year. It sucks to worry about next year, but only so many holes can get filled with a team this bad.

I can't wait for mccoy to dominate just to shut everyone up.

LOL

BR1986FB;1147414 wrote:LOL

I LOL at your weeden love, so it's all good.

DeyDurkie5;1147402 wrote:replace weeden with a WR and you have a great draft.

My thoughts exactly.

BR1986FB;1147404 wrote:Need a QB

Yes we do, but we are not going to get that QB this draft, that's for sure.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/04/alabamas_nick_saban_is_bullish.html

DeyDurkie5;1147409 wrote:I can't wait for mccoy to dominate just to shut everyone up.

I will love it if you are right...i have my doubts though. But I want to see him have the weapons to at least give him a shot. Heard Rizzo say today that the Browns lost 8 games by 7 points or less last year. Some weapons here and there and they should be competitive soon.

wes_mantooth;1147425 wrote:I will love it if you are right...i have my doubts though. But I want to see him have the weapons to at least give him a shot. Heard Rizzo say today that the Browns lost 8 games by 7 points or less last year. Some weapons here and there and they should be competitive soon.

All I've been saying.

hoops23;1147442 wrote:All I've been saying.

Even the games they lost by more than 7 most of them we were competitive in, and that's without an offensive line, healthy RB, or WRs who can catch. The situation isn't as bleak as some think.

lhslep134;1147456 wrote:Even the games they lost by more than 7 most of them we were competitive in, and that's without an offensive line, healthy RB, or WRs who can catch. The situation isn't as bleak as some think.

Houston, San Fran, and Tennessee games were not competitive...not sure if there was more.

By the way, I'd like someone to watch this entire thing and tell me they still want Weeden at or before 37.

[video=youtube;3XooClErAx4][/video]

Give me russell wilson please

OneBuckeye;1147500 wrote:Give me russell wilson please

Don't want him, but would gladly take him over Cousins!

lhslep134;1147464 wrote:By the way, I'd like someone to watch this entire thing and tell me they still want Weeden at or before 37.

[video=youtube;3XooClErAx4][/video]

Just as the scouts said, when he's pressured he panics big time.

And again, he's a system QB. Never under center and an offense designed to be explosive.

hoops23;1147510 wrote:Just as the scouts said, when he's pressured he panics big time.

but god damn...sure can throw a bubble screen

lhslep134;1147464 wrote:By the way, I'd like someone to watch this entire thing and tell me they still want Weeden at or before 37.

[video=youtube;3XooClErAx4][/video]

He made some damn good throws but he missed some also.

From Mel Kiper

Cleveland Browns


Top needs: QB, RB, WR, RT, CB, OLB

Rd 1 (4) RB Trent Richardson, Alabama
Rd 1 (22) T/G Cordy Glenn, Georgia
Rd 2 (37) QB Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma St.
Rd 3 (67) CB Dwight Bentley, Louisiana-Lafayette

Analysis: Richardson is simply a home run at No. 4. You rarely say that about a running back taken so high, but he has such a high floor as a prospect -- the only downside is injury, and that's such a perpetual issue, one that extends far beyond the running back position if you're looking close. Glenn is a versatile player who Cleveland will move to right tackle. He can be dominant as a run-blocker and has great initial pop, and with his presence, Joe Thomas on the left side and Richardson in the backfield, Cleveland has to feel pretty confident in an upgrade for the ground attack. Weeden is capable of pushing Colt McCoy right away (he's a few years older) and could be a steal. So he's older -- if the Browns get 6-8 good years from him, will anybody really care? Bentley is a nice piece at corner, where the team can use some help, even though I consider this a pretty good secondary.

So just because Weeden has a bad game and looks bad, that's why you don't want him? There's not one QB in the draft that has a perfect game tape, even the mighty Andrew Luck has looked occasionally bad. I'm not saying I want Weeden with the 3rd pick, just saying you can't bash him because he had a bad game. I think brock osweiler could be a still late in the draft. He's a little raw, but has good size, a good arm, and if he gets drafted by the right team to sit and learn for a couple years, I think he could be pretty good.

zach24oz;1147563 wrote:So just because Weeden has a bad game and looks bad, that's why you don't want him? There's not one QB in the draft that has a perfect game tape, even the mighty Andrew Luck has looked occasionally bad. I'm not saying I want Weeden with the 3rd pick, just saying you can't bash him because he had a bad game. I think brock osweiler could be a still late in the draft. He's a little raw, but has good size, a good arm, and if he gets drafted by the right team to sit and learn for a couple years, I think he could be pretty good.

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wes_mantooth;1147425 wrote:I will love it if you are right...i have my doubts though. But I want to see him have the weapons to at least give him a shot. Heard Rizzo say today that the Browns lost 8 games by 7 points or less last year. Some weapons here and there and they should be competitive soon.

This is why I don't get all this doom and gloom in this thread this whole off season. They were competitive in most of their games, and honestly they should have won at least half or a bit more of those games (bengals 2x, rams, steelers, cards). Now all of a sudden this team is going to be lucky to get 1 win next season?

hoops23;1147514 wrote:From Mel Kiper

Cleveland Browns


Top needs: QB, RB, WR, RT, CB, OLB

Rd 1 (4) RB Trent Richardson, Alabama
Rd 1 (22) T/G Cordy Glenn, Georgia
Rd 2 (37) QB Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma St.
Rd 3 (67) CB Dwight Bentley, Louisiana-Lafayette

Analysis: Richardson is simply a home run at No. 4. You rarely say that about a running back taken so high, but he has such a high floor as a prospect -- the only downside is injury, and that's such a perpetual issue, one that extends far beyond the running back position if you're looking close. Glenn is a versatile player who Cleveland will move to right tackle. He can be dominant as a run-blocker and has great initial pop, and with his presence, Joe Thomas on the left side and Richardson in the backfield, Cleveland has to feel pretty confident in an upgrade for the ground attack. Weeden is capable of pushing Colt McCoy right away (he's a few years older) and could be a steal. So he's older -- if the Browns get 6-8 good years from him, will anybody really care? Bentley is a nice piece at corner, where the team can use some help, even though I consider this a pretty good secondary.

http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?31434-2012-Cleveland-Browns-offseason-thread.-AKA-factory-of-sadness-thread&p=1147392&viewfull=1#post1147392

like_that;1147573 wrote:This is why I don't get all this doom and gloom in this thread this whole off season. They were competitive in most of their games, and honestly they should have won at least half or a bit more of those games (bengals 2x, rams, steelers, cards). Now all of a sudden this team is going to be lucky to get 1 win next season?



http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?31434-2012-Cleveland-Browns-offseason-thread.-AKA-factory-of-sadness-thread&p=1147392&viewfull=1#post1147392

Mine is better

It was his worst game of his college career. The school had a tragety that day and Weeden even admitted that was heavy on their minds. That being said he still made some good throws. He has an NFL arm. If you deny that then you are ignorant.

buckeyes_woowee;1147623 wrote:It was his worst game of his college career. The school had a tragety that day and Weeden even admitted that was heavy on their minds. That being said he still made some good throws. He has an NFL arm. If you deny that then you are ignorant.

You guys are missing the point. He snapped from the shotgun 99.9% of the time. He's a system QB. Why didn't you want Timmy Chang or Graham Harrelson?

Not only that, but as it's been pointed out, and you can check ANY game for this, he sucks BIG TIME under pressure. How do you think he's going to play under center with NFL DL coming at him and only a 3 or 5 step drop?