LOL at wasting a 2nd round pick on Weeden.

I'm not a Colt fan for what it's worth, but I want NOTHING to do with Weeden. I'd much rather continue to address more needs than find a stop gap at QB.

shook_17;1139581 wrote:pick 37 :thumbup:

ahh so another shitty year will be fine with you? thats good to know.

So you honestly think Weeden makes this team a playoff contender? Because if we're not contending I dot give a shit. 7-9 and 4-12 is the same damn thing in my eyes. They both mean shit.

shook_17;1139666 wrote:lol not aloud to change an opinion on anybody? i didn't know that. define ball out? what 30 td passes 10 ints and 4000 yards passing? it will never happen, i think he has only had 1 300 yard game during his 2 years in cleveland, and that was with 50 completions and 62 attempts against the titans while they were in prevent defense after the first quarter. yeah i just believe what BR says because we havent disagreed before, nice fail though.

and to your second have you seen mccoy play? whats the job of the qb? A. to make the players around you better, which he does not. B. to sling the rock and win games. he will never be in brady, brees, rodgers, rothlisburger, netwon, both mannings, catagory. that is what the answer is to me, a qb like that and colt mccoy could only dream to be that good. "game mangers" are such great qbs though :rolleyes:

EDIT: 6-15 as a starter and 0-10 vs the AFC north. you can have him durkie.

what else would you like to know?

Yes he had a shitty year. So did a bunch of future hall of famers. The whole point I have been trying to make is last year was basically fucked from the beginning. No offense, no offensive playmakers, etc. I've harped on it. The fact that you guys are giving up on him after one year is just retarded. ABSOLUTELY no need to draft a QB with those first 3 picks. Get some fucking talent on the offensive side, solidify the line, and if McCoy blows ass this next year, look at drafting a QB with your first pick in the draft. Starting over with Weeden is just dumb.

hoops23;1139703 wrote:So you honestly think Weeden makes this team a playoff contender? Because if we're not contending I dot give a ****. 7-9 and 4-12 is the same damn thing in my eyes. They both mean ****.

maybe not this year, but in next season sure. if we went blackmon 4th david wilson 22 and weeden at 37 that gives our offense a nice boost. weeden is 6'4 221 a big boy, has a very good arm and would force the defense to actually respect the deep ball. im not a GM i don't see what they see, i could be wrong i could be right, its just my opinion.
our starting line up would look like.

QB-weeden
RB-wilson, hardesty, jackson
WR-blackmon, little, norwood, cribbs, mass
TE-moore, watson, cameron

i think thats a pretty good offense and with a year under there belt and another draft to add a little more defense watch out.

Wasting any pick before the 4th round on a 29 year old QB is just retarded. Especially when he's not elite talent.

Sanchez supposedly has asked for a trade. there we go! sarcasm

http://thepenaltyflagblog.com/breaking-sanchez-vikings-interested

hoops23;1139708 wrote:Wasting any pick before the 4th round on a 29 year old QB is just retarded. Especially when he's not elite talent.

well he is 28. and according to all the "experts" IF he was 22 23 he would be a top ten pick. all the articles i have seen and todd mcshay, and kiper have both said it.

shook_17;1139707 wrote:maybe not this year, but in next season sure. if we went blackmon 4th david wilson 22 and weeden at 37 that gives our offense a nice boost. weeden is 6'4 221 a big boy, has a very good arm and would force the defense to actually respect the deep ball. im not a GM i don't see what they see, i could be wrong i could be right, its just my opinion.
our starting line up would look like.

QB-weeden
RB-wilson, hardesty, jackson
WR-blackmon, little, norwood, cribbs, mass
TE-moore, watson, cameron

i think thats a pretty good offense and with a year under there belt and another draft to add a little more defense watch out.

Lol. It's so hilarious to hear you guys say all this shit about Weeden. I heard Derek Anderson had a big arm and great size as well.

hoops23;1139708 wrote:Wasting any pick before the 4th round on a 29 year old QB is just retarded. Especially when he's not elite talent.

STOP.

You are being too logical.

shook_17;1139713 wrote:well he is 28. and according to all the "experts" IF he was 22 23 he would be a top ten pick. all the articles i have seen and todd mcshay, and kiper have both said it.

He will be 29 by week 4. No thanks.

shook_17;1139713 wrote:well he is 28. and according to all the "experts" IF he was 22 23 he would be a top ten pick. all the articles i have seen and todd mcshay, and kiper have both said it.

He's 28 now but he turns 29 in October.

If he was 22/23 this would be a different scenario, however I still wouldn't be that high on a system QB.

shook_17;1139713 wrote:well he is 28. and according to all the "experts" IF he was 22 23 he would be a top ten pick. all the articles i have seen and todd mcshay, and kiper have both said it.

not disagreeing except that McShay and Kiper are just talking heads that are rarely correct. I would take the guy from NFL network over those two idiots.

DeyDurkie5;1139704 wrote:Yes he had a ****ty year. So did a bunch of future hall of famers. The whole point I have been trying to make is last year was basically ****ed from the beginning. No offense, no offensive playmakers, etc. I've harped on it. The fact that you guys are giving up on him after one year is just retarded. ABSOLUTELY no need to draft a QB with those first 3 picks. Get some ****ing talent on the offensive side, solidify the line, and if McCoy blows ass this next year, look at drafting a QB with your first pick in the draft. Starting over with Weeden is just dumb.

for every hall of fame qb that did make it there, there are 10 shitty qbs that didn't amount to shit. but lets be honest, is it really starting over? this team sucks ass lol

hoops23;1139716 wrote:Lol. It's so hilarious to hear you guys say all this **** about Weeden. I heard Derek Anderson had a big arm and great size as well.

DA didn't have the brains you dumbass, weeden does. look at DA stats compared to weeden. DA had 79 td passes to 57 ints, weeden had 71 tds 27 ints. stop reaching for shit. DA couldn't hold weedens jock strap.

hoops23;1139722 wrote:He's 28 now but he turns 29 in October.

If he was 22/23 this would be a different scenario, however I still wouldn't be that high on a system QB.

i know he is 29 in october, its april. why is it different? talent has absolutely nothing to do with age. RGIII is a system qb, so are you not high on him?

shook_17;1139725 wrote:for every hall of fame qb that did make it there, there are 10 shitty qbs that didn't amount to shit. but lets be honest, is it really starting over? this team sucks ass lol

I believe it is starting over. Our offense sucks ass. Our defense/special teams are good. We just need to get some playmakers in there. If McCoy shows he can do well in this offense with weapons, then we don't have to waste another offseason worrying about that. Yet, your idea of turning this team around is drafting a 28 year old college kid with no NFL experience. Great plan!

shook_17;1139725 wrote:for every hall of fame qb that did make it there, there are 10 shitty qbs that didn't amount to shit. but lets be honest, is it really starting over? this team sucks ass lol

Pretty much, if not it sure sets the team back. Instead of drafting some actual value they are burning a top pick on a QB that is most likely not to do shit. Since you hate Colt McCoy so much, let's take a look at the 2010 draft.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_NFL_Draft

Now look what the Browns could have drafted instead of Colt McCoy at that point in the draft. Or take a look at the talent the Panthers passed up on for Jimmy Clausen.

like_that;1139740 wrote:Pretty much, if not it sure sets the team back. Instead of drafting some actual value they are burning a top pick on a QB that is most likely not to do ****. Since you hate Colt McCoy so much, let's take a look at the 2010 draft.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_NFL_Draft

Now look what the Browns could have drafted instead of Colt McCoy at that point in the draft. Or take a look at the talent the Panthers passed up on for Jimmy Clausen.

lol i DON"T hate colt mccoy. he can stay in cleveland as the back up. just because i think he isn't going to led the browns to the promise land and break records doesn't mean i hate him. come on dude! i would glady eat crow the rest of my life he turns out to be a badass. i just don't see it.

shook_17;1139728 wrote:DA didn't have the brains you dumbass, weeden does. look at DA stats compared to weeden. DA had 79 td passes to 57 ints, weeden had 71 tds 27 ints. stop reaching for shit. DA couldn't hold weedens jock strap.

LMAO, UMAD??

So much ignorance in this post. You're a lost cause.

DeyDurkie5;1139730 wrote:I believe it is starting over. Our offense sucks ass. Our defense/special teams are good. We just need to get some playmakers in there. If McCoy shows he can do well in this offense with weapons, then we don't have to waste another offseason worrying about that. Yet, your idea of turning this team around is drafting a 28 year old college kid with no NFL experience. Great plan!

aren't you the one saying that colt mccoy has hardly no experience in the west coast?

hoops23;1139746 wrote:LMAO, UMAD??

So much ignorance in this post. You're a lost cause.

lol upset im using stats to back up my information? while you are just throwing around shit?

shook_17;1139748 wrote:aren't you the one saying that colt mccoy has hardly no experience in the west coast?

what? I haven't said that once..

shook_17;1139744 wrote:lol i DON"T hate colt mccoy. he can stay in cleveland as the back up. just because i think he isn't going to led the browns to the promise land and break records doesn't mean i hate him. come on dude! i would glady eat crow the rest of my life he turns out to be a badass. i just don't see it.

I don't either, in fact I don't think many fans here see him being that good, but we sure as hell don't want to see an idiotic pick such as Tannehill or Weeden. I don't understand why you can't comprehend that. I'd much rather watch McCoy on a shitty offense for another seasons than watch us waste a pick on a 29 y/o QB and watch what will also be a shitty offense. You are getting way too infatuated with his college stats. If college stats were any indicator than Danny Weurfel, Jason White, Matt Leinart, Akilli Smith, Chris Weinke, that Hawaii QB, etc would have been stars in the NFL.

I'd much rather take Kellen Moore in the later rounds than Tannefail or Weeden in the earlier rounds. At least with Moore if he sucks we can put him on the bench and he can learn from watching. WTF do we do with Weeden if he turns out to suck ass? Put our 29 year old QB on the bench so he can watch for a few years? LMAO.

shook_17;1139749 wrote:lol upset im using stats to back up my information? while you are just throwing around shit?

Throwing around shit? Everything I said is true. He'll be 29. He's a system QB. He had a 45% completion rate UNDER PRESSURE IN COLLEGE! HOw do you think that translates to the NFL? (hint: see Derek Anderson)

His college team aso had way more talent than DA's did.

You're looking for a stop gap. Weeden is old. He's peaked, and he'll be worthless in a few years. Then what?

hoops23;1139754 wrote:Throwing around shit? Everything I said is true. He'll be 29. He's a system QB. He had. 45% completion rate UNDER PRESSURE.

His college team aso had way more talent than DA's did.

You're looking for a stop gap. Weeden is old. He's peaked, and he'll be worthless in a few years. Then what?

Stop gaps are not worth a top 2 pick at all, especially when it isn't even close to a forgone conclusion that he will be productive.