
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 9, 2012 9:25am
That's what I am waiting to see, along with Dalton. Hopefully if one of them adjusts to defenses it isn't Dalton lol.SportsAndLady;1139908 wrote:Newton had a plethora of dynamic weapons around him...Steve Smith is one of the better WRs in the NFL when healthy, which he was for the most part last year.
It's not like Newton is this super freak QB who figured out how to not suck in his rookie year...he just was put in a perfect situation (weapons, offense molded around him, defense was terrible which allowed for more offensive possessions, etc.)
We'll see how good he'll be in his 2nd year, when NFL D coordinators have some game tape to look at.

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 9, 2012 9:26am
[h=3]Browns down to two?[/h]8:01AM ET
[h=5]Cleveland Browns[/h]
With over three weeks left before the start of the NFL Draft, many of the logical possibilities have already been fully dissected for teams at the top of the draft order, and so we've gotten into the more creative possibilities, such as the Minnesota Vikings passing on USC OT Matt Kalil, leaving the Cleveland Browns to take him to start at RT or trade down with a team that is fiending for a player of Kalil's caliber.
The scenario that is considered most likely, however, is Kalil being taken by the Vikes at No. 3, leaving the Browns with their choice of Justin Blackmon, Trent Richardson and Morris Claiborne -- believed to be the next three best -- amongst other possibilities. Then there's the Ryan Tannehill wildcard: though he's not thought to be worthy of such a high pick in general, the premium placed on the QB position has pushed the Texas A&M passer into the conversation for Cleveland, Miami and others.
In a lengthy column for the Cleveland Plain Dealer this past weekend, Dennis Manoloff examined the pros and cons of each potential outcome. Cutting to the chase, he considered two players as distinct possibilities -- Richardson and Blackmon -- while also not discounting the possibility of a trade-down, but not out of the Top 10.
Selecting Richardson or Blackmon remains the most logical choice for Cleveland -- as it has for weeks -- but that doesn't guarantee that this will be the scenario that unfolds on draft day.
[h=5]Cleveland Browns[/h]
With over three weeks left before the start of the NFL Draft, many of the logical possibilities have already been fully dissected for teams at the top of the draft order, and so we've gotten into the more creative possibilities, such as the Minnesota Vikings passing on USC OT Matt Kalil, leaving the Cleveland Browns to take him to start at RT or trade down with a team that is fiending for a player of Kalil's caliber.
The scenario that is considered most likely, however, is Kalil being taken by the Vikes at No. 3, leaving the Browns with their choice of Justin Blackmon, Trent Richardson and Morris Claiborne -- believed to be the next three best -- amongst other possibilities. Then there's the Ryan Tannehill wildcard: though he's not thought to be worthy of such a high pick in general, the premium placed on the QB position has pushed the Texas A&M passer into the conversation for Cleveland, Miami and others.
In a lengthy column for the Cleveland Plain Dealer this past weekend, Dennis Manoloff examined the pros and cons of each potential outcome. Cutting to the chase, he considered two players as distinct possibilities -- Richardson and Blackmon -- while also not discounting the possibility of a trade-down, but not out of the Top 10.
Selecting Richardson or Blackmon remains the most logical choice for Cleveland -- as it has for weeks -- but that doesn't guarantee that this will be the scenario that unfolds on draft day.

Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 9, 2012 9:28am
Dalton started to come back to earth towards the end of the year IMO. Very similar to DA back in 07.like_that;1139912 wrote:That's what I am waiting to see, along with Dalton. Hopefully if one of them adjusts to defenses it isn't Dalton lol.

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 9, 2012 9:47am
Hopefully that means Green will be similar to Braylon then lol. Doubt that though.Commander of Awesome;1139915 wrote:Dalton started to come back to earth towards the end of the year IMO. Very similar to DA back in 07.
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buckeyes_woowee
Posts: 512
Apr 9, 2012 10:32am
Be my guest to remember but you wont need to rub it in my face. I will admit if I misjudged. Now will you do the same if Weeden is legit?Commander of Awesome;1139879 wrote:I'll be sure to remember this post to rub in your face.

Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 9, 2012 10:39am
Absolutely.

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 9, 2012 10:55am
That first pick needs to be either richardson or blackmon. If we take tannehill at that spot I'll seriously consider not watching a single game next year.

Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 9, 2012 10:55am
What if its Kalil or Claiborne?DeyDurkie5;1139964 wrote:That first pick needs to be either richardson or blackmon. If we take tannehill at that spot I'll seriously consider not watching a single game next year.

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 9, 2012 11:02am
I won't be mad, but I won't be excited. Both are goign to be great players so you can't be too pissed about it. We just need some instant offense and those two(blackmon/richardson) provide it.Commander of Awesome;1139965 wrote:What if its Kalil or Claiborne?

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 9, 2012 11:04am
If we take Tannehill with anything but a 7th rounder I'd be pissed.DeyDurkie5;1139964 wrote:That first pick needs to be either richardson or blackmon. If we take tannehill at that spot I'll seriously consider not watching a single game next year.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Apr 9, 2012 11:09am
KalilCommander of Awesome;1139965 wrote:What if its Kalil or Claiborne?

shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Apr 9, 2012 11:53am
This.DeyDurkie5;1139964 wrote:That first pick needs to be either richardson or blackmon. If we take tannehill at that spot I'll seriously consider not watching a single game next year.
I wasn't big on trich at 4. But the more I think about it and watch his fim. Damn. Him or blackmon. Kalil and claiborne are my third and fourth choice.
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buckeyes_woowee
Posts: 512
Apr 9, 2012 2:18pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/09/2012-mock-draft-take-two/
Even though I wouldn't mind Weeden at 37 I do not want to use a first rounder on him unless they end up with 3 of them.
Even though I wouldn't mind Weeden at 37 I do not want to use a first rounder on him unless they end up with 3 of them.

Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 9, 2012 2:48pm
No thanks on that draft. I'm starting to really like Lavonte David. I will be disappointed if the Browns don't end up with him in this draft. He'd be a stud LB that this team needs. If we can leave this draft with David, James, (Massie, Mosely, or Schwartz) and one of these (Wright, Quick, Randle, Adams) I will be happy. Obviously we'd have to pick up a second round pick to accomplish this, but with a trade down and 13 picks to use as ammo to move around it is entirely possible.

shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Apr 9, 2012 5:01pm
COA i wonder if we can package up a few picks to move back into the first round while keeping pick 37?
EDIT: i seen some film on david, he would look good in a browns uni.
EDIT: i seen some film on david, he would look good in a browns uni.

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 9, 2012 5:18pm
it's I saw some film. come on dudeshook_17;1140312 wrote:COA i wonder if we can package up a few picks to move back into the first round while keeping pick 37?
EDIT: i seen some film on david, he would look good in a browns uni.

shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Apr 9, 2012 5:26pm
^^ do you have nothing else to do? or just feel like being a douche bag

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 9, 2012 5:35pm
I've got plenty of things to do. But your constant use of "i seen" is just annoying. So I decided to call you out.shook_17;1140338 wrote:^^ do you have nothing else to do? or just feel like being a douche bag

shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Apr 9, 2012 7:47pm
well good. now that i know it annoys you, i will continue to do it.DeyDurkie5;1140345 wrote:I've got plenty of things to do. But your constant use of "i seen" is just annoying. So I decided to call you out.

shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Apr 9, 2012 8:18pm
like that chris mortenson said players report april 16th for off season work outs.

derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Apr 9, 2012 9:28pm
fifyshook_17;1140435 wrote:well good. now that i seen it annoys you, i will continue to do it.

shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Apr 9, 2012 9:38pm
thanks derekderek bomar;1140542 wrote:fify

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 9, 2012 9:57pm
I seen a hillbilly, and it is shook!

shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Apr 9, 2012 10:04pm
:thumbup: internet bad ass. repsSportsAndLady;1140604 wrote:I seen a hillbilly, and it is shook!

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 9, 2012 10:06pm
I'm not a badass I actually get punched/headbutted quite often lolshook_17;1140621 wrote::thumbup: internet bad ass. reps