OQB
Posts: 6,679
Mar 26, 2012 8:42pm
very true...and stabilityhoops23;1128691 wrote:Yeah, but it also helps that they already have pieces there...
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Mar 26, 2012 8:46pm
I just love how during free agency, almost everyone on here was bitching and complaining that we weren't doing shit. Now it's "oh we've got stablility, and a great sense of direction"
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 26, 2012 9:04pm
Everyone?DeyDurkie5;1128704 wrote:I just love how during free agency, almost everyone on here was bitching and complaining that we weren't doing shit. Now it's "oh we've got stablility, and a great sense of direction"
Link to me complaining that we weren't doing shit?
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Mar 26, 2012 9:07pm
I don't recall complaining either. There were a couple of guys I wanted, but I definitely did not bitch about not getting them.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Mar 26, 2012 9:08pm
link to me saying almost everyone? Cause I'm pretty sure I wrote ALMOST everyonelike_that;1128726 wrote:Everyone?
Link to me complaining that we weren't doing shit?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 26, 2012 9:10pm
Damn it.DeyDurkie5;1128731 wrote:link to me saying almost everyone? Cause I'm pretty sure I wrote ALMOST everyone
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Mar 26, 2012 9:11pm
I've complained about lack of focus in FA, but have nothing but good things to say about how this regime drafts.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Mar 26, 2012 9:12pm
you are better than that likethat, come on now.like_that;1128732 wrote:Damn it.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Mar 26, 2012 9:13pm
Your fail caused me to self faillike_that;1128732 wrote:Damn it.
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Mar 26, 2012 9:15pm
I've definately complained about lack of presence in FA, but I think it is important to wisely sign veterans that can help these young players...especially at WR.
I too have enjoyed the past few drafts under this regime...although I don't agree or understand their thinking at times, when it comes down to it they make the big bucks and decisions.
I too have enjoyed the past few drafts under this regime...although I don't agree or understand their thinking at times, when it comes down to it they make the big bucks and decisions.
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Sonofanump
Mar 26, 2012 10:10pm
I really like the idea of the #6 pick with three players that would all help and wait to see who falls to you. Who would yall project the Browns to take with the #14 or #15 pick, an OL?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 27, 2012 7:47am
So driving in this morning I was hoping to hear some "positives" on the 4 compensatory picks, etc but NOOOOOOO, it's all about "Randy Lerner is the ONLY owner NOT at the owners meetings", "Heckert might trade DOWN, WHAT?" and "Heckert only trades down because he's afraid he will choke using a top 5 pick and prefers safer/lower picks". SMDH
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Mar 27, 2012 7:51am
^ I heard Booms saying the Detroit lions were the model to follow because they weren't afraid to pick start at the top of the draft and sign free agents. I changed the channel. It's pretty easy to draft when you have Stafford and Johnson on the board.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 27, 2012 7:57am
He conveniently forgot how many times Matt Millen fell into a pile of tits and came out sucking his thumb drafting WR's with his #1 pick almost EVERY draft. Hell, draft enough of them and you're bound to get SOME "hits."OneBuckeye;1128918 wrote:^ I heard Booms saying the Detroit lions were the model to follow because they weren't afraid to pick start at the top of the draft and sign free agents. I changed the channel. It's pretty easy to draft when you have Stafford and Johnson on the board.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 27, 2012 8:22am
Yeah lets go 0-16, draft a QB that can't stay healthy for his first 2 yrs in the league. Then suck so hard that we go winless. That's how it works for SB champs NYG, Shittsburgh, and GB Packers... What a fucking dipshit.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Mar 27, 2012 8:33am
Not to mention, this is the same team that drafted Mike Williams #10 and Roy Williams #7 of the 1st rounds of back to back years. How'd that work out for them?Commander of Awesome;1128929 wrote:Yeah lets go 0-16, draft a QB that can't stay healthy for his first 2 yrs in the league. Then suck so hard that we go winless. That's how it works for SB champs NYG, Shittsburgh, and GB Packers... What a fucking dipshit.
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Mar 27, 2012 9:28am
That is exactly what you get by taking a WR that is not a clear dominating talent like Calvin Johnson or Julio Jones, Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss etc. That is why I don't like Blackmon at 4. He is not the unquestionable star the others were coming out of school. I think Blackmon will be good. But Hill, Floyd and Wright have just as much potential and are currently just as good. JMHO.royal_k;1128939 wrote:Not to mention, this is the same team that drafted Mike Williams #10 and Roy Williams #7 of the 1st rounds of back to back years. How'd that work out for them?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 27, 2012 9:34am
I like Blackmon, but agree. There is a lot of WR talent this draft. Some teams will be getting good WRs in the 2nd round.OneBuckeye;1128984 wrote:That is exactly what you get by taking a WR that is not a clear dominating talent like Calvin Johnson or Julio Jones, Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss etc. That is why I don't like Blackmon at 4. He is not the unquestionable star the others were coming out of school. I think Blackmon will be good. But Hill, Floyd and Wright have just as much potential and are currently just as good. JMHO.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 27, 2012 9:35am
Agree and it's not just Blackmon. After Luck, RG3 & Kalil, nobody jumps out at me as "must have" at #4. That's why I'm all in favor of trading down. I don't think the difference between Blackmon and the receivers you mentioned is worth turning in the card at 4 for.OneBuckeye;1128984 wrote:That is exactly what you get by taking a WR that is not a clear dominating talent like Calvin Johnson or Julio Jones, Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss etc. That is why I don't like Blackmon at 4. He is not the unquestionable star the others were coming out of school. I think Blackmon will be good. But Hill, Floyd and Wright have just as much potential and are currently just as good. JMHO.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Mar 27, 2012 9:35am
I wouldn't consider him dominant at all. AJ Green should be in that list. But really you never know for sure when you draft a WR.OneBuckeye;1128984 wrote:That is exactly what you get by taking a WR that is not a clear dominating talent like Calvin Johnson or Julio Jones, Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss etc. That is why I don't like Blackmon at 4. He is not the unquestionable star the others were coming out of school. I think Blackmon will be good. But Hill, Floyd and Wright have just as much potential and are currently just as good. JMHO.
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Mar 27, 2012 9:40am
Good catch on Green. I think Julio had more question marks, I think that was more due to injury and not playing with an elite QB or wide open offense.Skyhook79;1128995 wrote:I wouldn't consider him dominant at all. AJ Green should be in that list. But really you never know for sure when you draft a WR.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 27, 2012 9:44am
Blackmon would help the offense but I think T-Rich would have more of an immediate impact. Richardson is going to get more touches rushing and catching checkdowns while Blackmon might get targeted 8-10x's a game and catch 6-8 balls.
Either way I wouldn't want either at #4 but if you can trade down a few slots, get some "value/extra picks" and THEN get them...I'd be cool with that.
Either way I wouldn't want either at #4 but if you can trade down a few slots, get some "value/extra picks" and THEN get them...I'd be cool with that.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 27, 2012 10:40am
I'd rather the browns trade back withint the top 8, pick up an extra 2nd rounder and go from there. Should be able to get one of Tannehill, Richardson, Blackmon, Kalil, Reiff, Claiborne around in the top 6~8.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 27, 2012 11:03am
27th March, 2012 - 9:11 am
NFL.com - Browns president Mike Holmgren says that he placed a phone call to Colt McCoy to reassure the quarterback of the organization's support.
Cleveland tried unsuccessfully to trade up to the No. 2 spot in next month's NFL draft with an eye toward acquiring Robert Griffin III.
"I just wanted to remind him there's been a lot spoken and a lot written about our situation and other situations around the league, quite frankly," Holmgren said.
"There's a lot mentioned about the draft and potentially what we're going to do. And all he can really control is what he does. All he can really do is become the best player he can be and try and block out all of the rest of the stuff.
Read more: http://football.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/26568/20120327/holmgren_assures_mccoy_hes_still_clevelands_qb/#ixzz1qKVV2DX8
NFL.com - Browns president Mike Holmgren says that he placed a phone call to Colt McCoy to reassure the quarterback of the organization's support. Cleveland tried unsuccessfully to trade up to the No. 2 spot in next month's NFL draft with an eye toward acquiring Robert Griffin III.
"I just wanted to remind him there's been a lot spoken and a lot written about our situation and other situations around the league, quite frankly," Holmgren said.
"There's a lot mentioned about the draft and potentially what we're going to do. And all he can really control is what he does. All he can really do is become the best player he can be and try and block out all of the rest of the stuff.
Read more: http://football.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/26568/20120327/holmgren_assures_mccoy_hes_still_clevelands_qb/#ixzz1qKVV2DX8
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Mar 27, 2012 11:06am
Those 6-8 catches will be for about 25 yards. If they don't have a QB that can throw the ball downfield, does it really matter who they have at WR?BR1986FB;1129003 wrote:Blackmon would help the offense but I think T-Rich would have more of an immediate impact. Richardson is going to get more touches rushing and catching checkdowns while Blackmon might get targeted 8-10x's a game and catch 6-8 balls.
Either way I wouldn't want either at #4 but if you can trade down a few slots, get some "value/extra picks" and THEN get them...I'd be cool with that.