2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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BR1986FB
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Mar 21, 2012 1:41pm
like_that;1123044 wrote:Where is Alshon (spelling) Jefferey supposed to fall? I haven't heard much about him. If the Browns traded down picking up a 2nd or 2, I wouldn't mind taking him either.
He'll likely be available at the 37th pick....
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Mar 21, 2012 1:47pm
DeyDurkie5;1123032 wrote:If the Saints thought like browns fans, they would still be an awful team.
Well those were Chargers fans for Brees' first 20 games.
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Mar 21, 2012 1:47pm
OneBuckeye;1123047 wrote:He should be there in a second. But I think he will be the type that will not be motivated to get better. Braylon crybaby 2.0.
I can see that. I remember before last season he was on ESPN's cover for their college football preview, and it looked like he had a gut going. Came off as a little too much partying, and not as much working hard during the off season.
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Mar 21, 2012 1:47pm
OneBuckeye;1123039 wrote:FIFY
Dammit you beat to me to the punch I'll have to delete my post
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BR1986FB
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Mar 21, 2012 1:49pm
Dan Murphy ‏ @ DMurph_BrownsPR
# Browns Joe Thomas & @ usafootball are donating $1,500 equipment grants to both John Marshall HS & Akron Parent Pee Wee Football Association


Always good to see something positive with this team...
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Mar 21, 2012 1:49pm
The way I see it, trade down to #6 with the Rams for their second rounder and a 3rd rounder in 2013. Grab Richardson at #6. Grab Hill or Wright at 22. Grab BPA at #34 and #37.

Win a Super Bowl.
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Mar 21, 2012 1:50pm
Also, trade your entire 2013 draft for Drew Brees or Peyton Manning.
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BR1986FB
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Mar 21, 2012 1:51pm
Commander of Awesome;1122990 wrote:Oh I forgot all about Baylor's proday.
Needless to say, there weren't a lot of Browns scouts there...:laugh:
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Mar 21, 2012 2:03pm
Nfl came down hard on the sean peyton, one year suspension, greg williams got suspended indefinitely.

Stephen hill is raw as hell. I think its a toss up between wright and hill at 22. If jeffery is there at 37 id take him too!
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Mar 21, 2012 2:04pm
The difference between brees and McCoy is brees actually has a really strong arm. McCoy doesn't.
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Mar 21, 2012 2:07pm
Honestly if we're going wr at 22 I want Michael Floyd. The guy is a beast and plays hard all the time. He may only be 6"3 but he can get up over the defender on deep routes and adjusts his body very well when the ball is in the air. I think he will actually be the best receiver in this class. His only concern is the way he plays he has had a couple injuries.
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Mar 21, 2012 2:42pm
NYG Goff a lber visited with the Browns yesterday.
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Fred Garvin
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Mar 21, 2012 3:38pm
How much of a suspension will Fujita get for the Saints bounty system since the commish is coming down hard?
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BR1986FB
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Mar 21, 2012 3:44pm
Fred Garvin;1123174 wrote:How much of a suspension will Fujita get for the Saints bounty system since the commish is coming down hard?
No disrespect to you but, who cares? Didn't do anything to make himself noticeable on the field last year. Dude is a liability to the defense. Am wondering if Usama Young gets nailed too?
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Fred Garvin
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Mar 21, 2012 3:49pm
I think the league will hammer any and all players they can attach to the bounty system.
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Mar 21, 2012 3:50pm
BR1986FB;1123184 wrote:No disrespect to you but, who cares? Didn't do anything to make himself noticeable on the field last year. Dude is a liability to the defense. Am wondering if Usama Young gets nailed too?
If that is the case, just retype your response regarding Fujita lol. I liked Fujita too. Before the home opener my friend and I happened to walk by the Browns hotel when the players were coming in the day before. Fujita took the time to take a photo with us, and seemed like a good guy.

Cue failhook trolling this post...
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Mar 21, 2012 4:35pm
Am I the only one not sold on Stephan Hill? I think he is a 3rd round guy that is jumping based off of his 40 time. He needs time to develop as a WR because his route running is not great by no means. He is a better fit for a team with veteran WRs.
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Mar 21, 2012 4:59pm
I really had not heard about Stephen Hill during the season...The only thing I know is that he runs a very fast 40yd dash and is about 6'4, and he played at GT. Not necessarily the best offense for wrs. Calvin Johnson dud go there but they werent running the triple option when he was there. I would much rather have Kendall Wright or Michael Floyd at 22. I think Hill would still be around in the 2nd or 3rd round.
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Mar 21, 2012 6:36pm
Highlight video of Hill.

[video=youtube;1kQWb4NXvJc][/video]

He has size and speed but I wonder how much his speed will be a factor in the NFL with the speedy corners and safeties.
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Mar 21, 2012 6:54pm
zach24oz;1123243 wrote:Calvin Johnson dud go there but they werent running the triple option when he was there.
Exactly. Johnson was a beast coming into the league.

Hill is huge and really fast, but he has 0 route-running ability at this point. I'd rather have Wright, even though I like both of them. Hill is too much of a project and the Browns need someone that can contribute off of the bat.
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Mar 21, 2012 6:58pm
Personally if there's one critique of a WR coming into the league that I care least about it's route running. That can be taught, especially by a good WR coach. His development won't be up to par because of lack of emphasis GT put on route running, but I'd much rather have the things that can't be taught (body control, going up and getting the ball, ability to adjust quickly, and athleticism).

That being said, I still want Michael Floyd if available because I think he's the 2nd best WR in this draft and as much of a sure thing as Blackmon
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Mar 21, 2012 7:15pm
Mulva;1123302 wrote:Exactly. Johnson was a beast coming into the league.

Hill is huge and really fast, but he has 0 route-running ability at this point. I'd rather have Wright, even though I like both of them. Hill is too much of a project and the Browns need someone that can contribute off of the bat.
Do they? Or do they tank to get a qb in there that is decent? Losing sucks.....but I don't know that it matters who is there with Colt throwing and running for his life.
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Mar 21, 2012 7:20pm
wes_mantooth;1123316 wrote:Do they? Or do they tank to get a qb in there that is decent? Losing sucks.....but I don't know that it matters who is there with Colt throwing and running for his life.
6 wins isn't acceptable.

But I was speaking from a selfish fan perspective. I don't want to see a receiver who might be really good in 3 years. Because that would mean the next 2 years will be 2011 again. And then I would have to run H&H out of town. On my own if necessary.
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Mar 21, 2012 7:22pm
wes_mantooth;1123316 wrote:Do they? Or do they tank to get a qb in there that is decent? Losing sucks.....but I don't know that it matters who is there with Colt throwing and running for his life.
did BR hack your account?
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Mar 21, 2012 7:27pm
DeyDurkie5;1123328 wrote:did BR hack your account?
lol, no....but I don't think Colt can be effective with this oline. Also, stfu!