like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 20, 2012 9:23pm
He is 28, so he can play.lhslep134;1122516 wrote:What makes you think Weeden can play in the NFL at a high level? Is it all of the other highly successful Big 12 QBs currently in the NFL?
And by others, I mean 0.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 20, 2012 9:24pm
I hope this is sarcasm.like_that;1122520 wrote:He is 28, so he can play.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 20, 2012 9:30pm
Look above lhslep's post. Nice observation fail.Commander of Awesome;1122521 wrote:I hope this is sarcasm.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 20, 2012 9:33pm
Nope hard to tell sarcasm on the internet without tags. Could easily be mistaken as your legit argument, considering the QQing going on in this thread.like_that;1122529 wrote:Look above lhslep's post. Nice observation fail.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Mar 20, 2012 9:53pm
brandon weedon is better than aaron rodgers. I agree with everything you said.IggyPride00;1122510 wrote:Anyone else think that serious consideration should be given to drafting Weeden at 22?
I think he is ready to play now, and physically has the size/arm to play the position at a high level in the NFL for a while.
He might be 28 already, but that is not ancient in QB years. Aaron Rodgers is that age, and everyone considers the Packers set at QB for the next decade.
We don't know what he will become, but if we could get 6-7 years of high level play out of him that would be enough for me to say it's worth the risk.
We know McCoy/Wallace are not a long term solution, so to go through the year with them is wasting another year. It's time to bite the bullet and draft a QB that can play now so at least we feel like we are building towards something for once instead of treading water waiting until next year's draft.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Mar 20, 2012 9:55pm
Just think of the Glory in the DawgPound and you chanting "WEED" "WEED" "WEED"DeyDurkie5;1122547 wrote:brandon weedon is better than aaron rodgers. I agree with everything you said.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Mar 20, 2012 9:57pm
I'm pretty sure it was 4, meaning 2014 would be the last year of his contract.Commander of Awesome;1122499 wrote:Yeah Rubin signed a 6 yr deal I believe last off season.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Mar 20, 2012 10:09pm
thats a steal.zach24oz;1122501 wrote:The Houston Texans traded Demeco Ryans to the Eagles for a 4th round pick. Don't know if anyone has seen that or not...Sounds like a really good deal for the Eagles. Too bad the Browns can't pull off anything like this.
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Mar 20, 2012 10:16pm
Weeden would be a 1000x better pick than Tannefail.
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zach24oz
Posts: 598
Mar 20, 2012 10:58pm
I wouldnt take either one with my first 3 picks...they need to get guys who can come in and play right now and can help the team out.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Mar 20, 2012 11:21pm
I wasn't sure, but if that's true...it means all 3 will have contracts coming due about the same time. It's going to be very costly to retain all three (assuming Taylor progresses and becomes at least as good as Rubin).Mulva;1122553 wrote:I'm pretty sure it was 4, meaning 2014 would be the last year of his contract.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Mar 20, 2012 11:40pm
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Mar 21, 2012 12:42am
Skyhook79;1122550 wrote:Just think of the Glory in the DawgPound and you chanting "WEED" "WEED" "WEED"
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Mar 21, 2012 4:59am
Cleveland Browns reportedly pursuing free agent LB Manny Lawson http://dlvr.it/1LMZq5
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 21, 2012 5:04am
If Weeden is 22-23 years old he's a top 10 pick. Most scouts have him as the most "NFL ready" QB in this draft outside of Luck. He gets kicked in the dick because he's 28. I'd have more confidence in him starting as a rookie over Tannehill. I think Tannehill will also be fine but he's going to need to sit a year and learn from a good WCO QB like a Hasselbeck.like_that;1122513 wrote:No. Just because he is 28, doesn't mean he is ready to play in the NFL.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 21, 2012 5:09am
From Heckert's recent pattern (if he sticks around), I'm not too worried about this. Looks like he's using the John Hart/mid-09's Cleveland Indians "model" by re-signing guys to extensions BEFORE their contracts are up (see Joe Thomas, Gocong, Rubin). He's locking up this "core" talent, long-term. Alex Mack is likely to be next and I'd imagine they will have a ton of cap space next year.Writerbuckeye;1122631 wrote:I wasn't sure, but if that's true...it means all 3 will have contracts coming due about the same time. It's going to be very costly to retain all three (assuming Taylor progresses and becomes at least as good as Rubin).
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 21, 2012 5:15am
Could be just posturing but it sounds like the Vikes may prefer Mo Claiborne over Matt Kalil at #3. If Kalil is on the board at 4, what do you do? I know that 4 is WAY too high to grab a RT but damn that would be tempting. Even IF Lauvao stays at RG, a player of Kalil's ilk should definitely help upgrade Lauvao's play.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 21, 2012 7:04am
I will never bitch about spending first rounders on o/d line.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 21, 2012 7:10am
Same. If Heckert made decisions based on whether the fan base will cry or not, he would be a horrible GM. I would definitely take Kalil.Commander of Awesome;1122728 wrote:I will never bitch about spending first rounders on o/d line.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 21, 2012 7:13am
Kalil sets up the Browns for the best oline in the league and a pwn league for the next 10 yrs. If a RB/QB can't be productive behind that line than they need to GTFO.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 21, 2012 7:29am
Listening to Pluto's podcast from yesterday, he's really complaining about lack of Browns moves and his/MKC's lack of browns insight. Says they haven't been able to get a single good rumor and says its the agents dealing exclusively with the agents etc...
He thinks we should go after demetrius bell to play RT.
He thinks we should go after demetrius bell to play RT.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 21, 2012 7:50am
Browns have offered a 5th for Tebow....
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 21, 2012 7:58am
Browns still in discussions with the Texans regarding acquiring Tate. If something happens it will likely be draft day.
Also are expressing interest in Rams WR Mark Clayton.
And in the "at least they are doing their due diligence department", they have reached out to the Colts regarding acquiring the #1 overall pick in the draft within the last 10 days. Colts said "no thanks." So much for Holmgren's "confidence boost" in McCoy.
Also are expressing interest in Rams WR Mark Clayton.
And in the "at least they are doing their due diligence department", they have reached out to the Colts regarding acquiring the #1 overall pick in the draft within the last 10 days. Colts said "no thanks." So much for Holmgren's "confidence boost" in McCoy.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 21, 2012 7:59am
This the same we signed Painter stunt?BR1986FB;1122742 wrote:Browns have offered a 5th for Tebow....
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Sonofanump
Mar 21, 2012 8:00am
WTF? What's wrong with Watson and Moore?BR1986FB;1122742 wrote:Browns have offered a 5th for Tebow....