2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Sonofanump
Mar 7, 2012 8:09am
Commander of Awesome;1107752 wrote:I'll allow it.
Repost.
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BR1986FB
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Mar 7, 2012 8:09am
This one comes out of Washington. The Skins have $40 million UNDER the cap to play with while Miami only has about $10-13 million if I'm correct. Manning's salary would likely eat all of Miami's cap if they don't restructure people...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/with-release-on-the-way-peyton-manning-will-have-plenty-of-options/2012/03/06/gIQATJj8vR_blog.html#pagebreak

Arizona only has $10 million and a horrible O-Line. It's rumored that Reggie Wayne & Jeff Saturday will be "package deals" with Manning. Where is their money coming from?
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Mar 7, 2012 8:11am
I think the Vikings are sold on Ponder. They have to be, bc they spent #12 pick on him last season.
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Mar 7, 2012 8:12am
Sonofanump;1107765 wrote:Repost.
Read it again.
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Mar 7, 2012 8:19am
Commander of Awesome;1107769 wrote:I think the Vikings are sold on Ponder. They have to be, bc they spent #12 pick on him last season.
At least that's what they are saying.
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Mar 7, 2012 8:21am
BR1986FB;1107775 wrote:At least that's what they are saying.
That's all they've been saying since last season. I think at this point to think otherwise is all speculation and reading too much into things.
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Mar 7, 2012 8:25am
If they whiff on all of these guys I wouldn't have an issue with them bringing in Tannehill ONLY if they could trade for Matt Hasselbeck to groom him and be the starter for a year or two. I think Hasselbeck still has quite a bit left in him and I'm not sold on Flynn and don't want Orton, Campbell or Henne.
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Mar 7, 2012 8:38am
For me I rank the scenarios.

1. RGIII (Without selling the draft)
2. RGIII (Sell the draft)
3. Flynn/Colt
4. Cousins/Tannehill and Colt
5. Cousins/Tannehill and Hasselbeck
6. Colt
7. everything else.

I don't want to bring in a FA QB other than Hasselbeck and Flynn, just draft someone and keep colt as your starter.
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Mar 7, 2012 8:40am
The thought of Kirk Cousins on the Browns pisses me off.
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Mar 7, 2012 8:41am
Me too, but I think he will be the best QB other than Luck and RGIII in the long run.
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Mar 7, 2012 8:42am
What if Manning goes to the Cards? Would the Cards cut Kolb or be looking to trade him? If he is cut, would you guys mind Kolb on the team? I'd take Kolb.
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Mar 7, 2012 8:44am
i'd take him on the cheap. I worry about his concussion issues. IIRC
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Mar 7, 2012 8:51am
Commander of Awesome;1107788 wrote:The thought of Kirk Cousins on the Browns pisses me off.
Agreed
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Mar 7, 2012 8:59am
I'd take Kolb.
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Mar 7, 2012 9:12am
Commander of Awesome;1107806 wrote:I'd take Kolb.

I am def intrigued with him....can't make up my mind
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Mar 7, 2012 9:14am
Peyton supposedly owns a condo in south beach, and was just down there throwing to Reggie Wayne 2 weeks ago.

With the rumors that they are a package deal, and Wayne having gone to the U, you do start to wonder.

Marshall and Wayne would be a hell of a WR combo.
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Mar 7, 2012 9:14am
wes_mantooth;1107814 wrote:I am def intrigued with him....can't make up my mind
For me it comes down with what we have to give up. I wouldn't be thrilled at trading anything for him (injury history along with his fat contract) but I definitely think he's an upgrade over McCoy. If we could sign him as a FA that would be ideal.
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Mar 7, 2012 9:25am
Kolb is a due a $7 million dollar bonus later this month that Cards have to pay him. That is going to be a hard one for them to stomach.
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Mar 7, 2012 9:49am
OneBuckeye;1107789 wrote:Me too, but I think he will be the best QB other than Luck and RGIII in the long run.

Me too
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Mar 7, 2012 9:53am
I'd rather have John Skelton than Kolb..blech
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Mar 7, 2012 10:08am
IggyPride00;1107816 wrote:Peyton supposedly owns a condo in south beach, and was just down there throwing to Reggie Wayne 2 weeks ago.

With the rumors that they are a package deal, and Wayne having gone to the U, you do start to wonder.

Marshall and Wayne would be a hell of a WR combo.
A lot of NFL players are in South Beach in the offseason, that's where they stay/train/stay in shape. Ochocinco is there now, just knowing that off the top of my head.

Just because he was in Miami throwing to Wayne, doesn't mean he's going to Miami lol
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Mar 7, 2012 10:12am
SportsAndLady;1107869 wrote:A lot of NFL players are in South Beach in the offseason, that's where they stay/train/stay in shape. Ochocinco is there now, just knowing that off the top of my head.

Just because he was in Miami throwing to Wayne, doesn't mean he's going to Miami lol
With only $13 million in cap money to play with Miami had better get pretty creative or Manning better give them a big discount.

Washington, with $40 million available, could get Manning, Wayne, Jeff Saturday AND Pierre Garcon (Colts reunion) and still have room to add more while keeping draft picks.
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Mar 7, 2012 10:14am
BR1986FB;1107875 wrote:With only $13 million in cap money to play with Miami had better get pretty creative or Manning better give them a big discount.

Washington, with $40 million available, could get Manning, Wayne, Jeff Saturday AND Pierre Garcon (Colts reunion) and still have room to add more while keeping draft picks.
Yeah, THIS is the kind of shit that will give us a better indication of where he'll end up..not, "oh he was just throwing a football at a vacation house in Phoenix, he must be going to Arizona!"
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Mar 7, 2012 10:14am
If I'm Garcon I stay in Indy as the #1 having Luck throwing to me the next decade
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Mar 7, 2012 10:17am
bases_loaded;1107880 wrote:If I'm Garcon I stay in Indy as the #1 having Luck throwing to me the next decade

True, but more than likely he takes whoever pays the most