2012 Post season Bowl Ban...implications?

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Dec 20, 2011 2:56 PM
I guess one good thing is that it's a dead period for coaches right now, so other coaches can't be in recruits ears right now.
Dec 20, 2011 2:56pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:00 PM
SportsAndLady;1022060 wrote:What happened in osus particular case that was different than all the other programs who got hit with the same infractions but no bowl ban?
The NCAA being pissed they let the Tat 5 play last year and deciding to make a statement. First bowl ban ever for a FTM (the Bobby G stuff). The tat 5 stuff is done and was done with the recruiting sanctions, suspensions and firing.
Dec 20, 2011 3:00pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:01 PM
I'll eagerly be waiting to see how future schools are punished for similar offenses.

If the NCAA is going to stay consistent, which I doubt they will, South Carolina could be majorly fucked.
Dec 20, 2011 3:01pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:01 PM
Midstate01;1022083 wrote:I guess one good thing is that it's a dead period for coaches right now, so other coaches can't be in recruits ears right now.

But at the same time, this will be all over ESPN for the bowl season so the recruits will still hear it.
Dec 20, 2011 3:01pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:02 PM
This is an opportunity for Meyer to get the team together and teach them about "Plausible Deniability". Also, from here on out, coaches and players communicate via private email accounts. No more use of University email. Each player is encouraged to purchase a Tracfone to converse with anyone outside their immediate family. The NCAA has very little power to get information that isn't handed to them upon request.
Dec 20, 2011 3:02pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:03 PM
karen lotz;1022094 wrote:But at the same time, this will be all over ESPN for the bowl season so the recruits will still hear it.
Notre Dame still gets recruits despite every bowl season them losing their bowl game. OSU will be fine and continue winning, can't say the same for ND.
Dec 20, 2011 3:03pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:04 PM
Automatik;1022093 wrote:I'll eagerly be waiting to see how future schools are punished for similar offenses.

If the NCAA is going to stay consistent, which I doubt they will, South Carolina could be majorly fucked.
As someone said earlier, no one gives a shit about South Carolina. They'll skate.
Dec 20, 2011 3:04pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:04 PM
karen lotz;1022094 wrote:But at the same time, this will be all over ESPN for the bowl season so the recruits will still hear it.

Hearing it on espn is nothing like hearing it from a coach. Not even comparable
Dec 20, 2011 3:04pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:05 PM
se-alum;1022095 wrote:This is an opportunity for Meyer to get the team together and teach them about "Plausible Deniability". Also, from here on out, coaches and players communicate via private email accounts. No more use of University email. Each player is encouraged to purchase a Tracfone to converse with anyone outside their immediate family. The NCAA has very little power to get information that isn't handed to them upon request.
I like it. Although, how much money does the NCAA donate to political figures. This probably wouldnt last very long :huh:
Dec 20, 2011 3:05pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:05 PM
queencitybuckeye;1022100 wrote:As someone said earlier, no one gives a **** about South Carolina. They'll skate.
+1

For all I know, South Carolina has been banned from a bowl for the past decade.
Dec 20, 2011 3:05pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:05 PM
Schad mentioned something that osu is pissed because they offered to sit out a bowl game this year if they thought a bowl ban would be coming and the NCAA and its legal advice said there wouldn't be one...now they throw the bowl ban down and fuck Meyers first year up
Dec 20, 2011 3:05pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:05 PM
se-alum;1022095 wrote:This is an opportunity for Meyer to get the team together and teach them about "Plausible Deniability". Also, from here on out, coaches and players communicate via private email accounts. No more use of University email. Each player is encouraged to purchase a Tracfone to converse with anyone outside their immediate family. The NCAA has very little power to get information that isn't handed to them upon request.
Communicate vio private e-mail accounts? Wrong. All communication should be done in person. ;)
Dec 20, 2011 3:05pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:06 PM
Midstate01;1022101 wrote:Hearing it on espn is nothing like hearing it from a coach. Not even comparable

oh, ok. I doubt high school kids watch ESPN too.
Dec 20, 2011 3:06pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:06 PM
Yeah first things first though...we HAVE to get rid of that self flagellating buffoon Gen Smith.
Dec 20, 2011 3:06pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:07 PM
se-alum;1022095 wrote:This is an opportunity for Meyer to get the team together and teach them about "Plausible Deniability". Also, from here on out, coaches and players communicate via private email accounts. No more use of University email. Each player is encouraged to purchase a Tracfone to converse with anyone outside their immediate family. The NCAA has very little power to get information that isn't handed to them upon request.
Any university that self reports from now on is a fool. This was driven by media pounding the table and little else. There is no precedent for this; the NCAA is continuing to make crap up as they go along.

In the future, I hope if OSU finds itself in trouble they simply lie, delay and don't cooperate. Get the boosters out there and buy off witnesses, if necessary. Why comply with an organization that isn't consistent in its punishments and can be influenced by some biased reporters with an ax to grind?

As for Ohio State...first order of business is to fire Gene Smith, because he bungled this beyond reason.
Dec 20, 2011 3:07pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:09 PM
SportsAndLady;1022105 wrote:Schad mentioned something that osu is pissed because they offered to sit out a bowl game this year if they thought a bowl ban would be coming and the NCAA and its legal advice said there wouldn't be one...now they throw the bowl ban down and fuck Meyers first year up
that would go along with the other rumors out there. What a shady fucking underhanded move by the NCAA
Dec 20, 2011 3:09pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:10 PM
I'm buying beers at Average Joes on Hamilton Rd if anyone else wants to get drunk.
Dec 20, 2011 3:10pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:14 PM
Writerbuckeye;1022115 wrote:Any university that self reports from now on is a fool. This was driven by media pounding the table and little else. There is no precedent for this; the NCAA is continuing to make crap up as they go along.

In the future, I hope if OSU finds itself in trouble they simply lie, delay and don't cooperate. Get the boosters out there and buy off witnesses, if necessary. Why comply with an organization that isn't consistent in its punishments and can be influenced by some biased reporters with an ax to grind?

As for Ohio State...first order of business is to fire Gene Smith, because he bungled this beyond reason.
Absolutely, why comply with an organization that has such little power in the grand scheme of things? Also, I agree, Smith needs to be doing his last press conference today, but I hope he gives the NCAA holy hell on his way out!
Dec 20, 2011 3:14pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:16 PM
se-alum;1022134 wrote:Absolutely, why comply with an organization that has such little power in the grand scheme of things? Also, I agree, Smith needs to be doing his last press conference today, but I hope he gives the NCAA holy hell on his way out!
Could you imagine "I tender my resignation effective..... now you NCAA backstabbing underhanded sons of bitches"
Dec 20, 2011 3:16pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:17 PM
LJ;1022138 wrote:Could you imagine "I tender my resignation effective..... now you NCAA backstabbing underhanded sons of bitches"
"I'll be shocked and disappointed and on the offensive," Smith said in July of his reaction if there was a bowl ban. "It'll be behavior you haven't witnessed (from me)."
Yeah, what now Smith?
Dec 20, 2011 3:17pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:18 PM
LJ;1022118 wrote:that would go along with the other rumors out there. What a shady fucking underhanded move by the NCAA
No shit. Basically, "no, don't self ban yourself this year! you're not that good, so you're going to a bitch bowl!" we'll just fuck you up the ass for next year, when logic dictates you'll be better, since this year was an anomaly."
Dec 20, 2011 3:18pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:21 PM
[LEFT]"When you look at previous cases, there are no precedents for bowl ban," [/LEFT]

Gene Smith [LEFT]
Yep, career suicide for him. Arrogant, clueless SOB.[/LEFT]
Dec 20, 2011 3:21pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:22 PM
charliehustle14;1022150 wrote:[LEFT]When you look at previous cases, there are no precedents for bowl ban," [/LEFT]

Gene Smith [LEFT]11/ 28.
Yep, career suicide for him. Arrogant, clueless SOB.[/LEFT]
Except there wasn't, and the NCAA lied.
Dec 20, 2011 3:22pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:23 PM
LJ;1022152 wrote:Except there wasn't, and the NCAA lied.
What exactly did they lie about?
Dec 20, 2011 3:23pm
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Dec 20, 2011 3:25 PM
Automatik;1022154 wrote:What exactly did they lie about?
OSU asked them before accepting the Gator Bowl bid and the NCAA said "no ban"
Dec 20, 2011 3:25pm