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robj55

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Mar 29, 2011 6:51 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;727785 wrote:He took the fight on short notice and beat an experienced south paw boxer with a black belt in bjj....i'm impressed. He'll have a full camp for his next opponent and probably an impressive win

I was hoping his stand up would have looked sharper but it really looks no better than when he debuted. A win is a win over a tough vet though as you said.
Mar 29, 2011 2:51pm
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Mar 30, 2011 6:19 PM
Sponser not paying Carwin because they say he threw his fight with Lesnar. Looking for a link.
Mar 30, 2011 2:19pm
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Mar 30, 2011 8:19 PM
OneBuckeye;728974 wrote:Sponser not paying Carwin because they say he threw his fight with Lesnar. Looking for a link.

Total bs, he gassed and lost, what evidence do they have that he threw he fight?
Mar 30, 2011 4:19pm
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Mar 30, 2011 8:20 PM
TUF season 13 starts tonight at 9 on spike, should be interesting to say the least.
Mar 30, 2011 4:20pm
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Mar 30, 2011 8:31 PM
robj55;729110 wrote:TUF season 13 starts tonight at 9 on spike, should be interesting to say the least.

DVR set
Mar 30, 2011 4:31pm
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Mar 30, 2011 8:34 PM
Fab1b;729126 wrote:DVR set

Me too.
Mar 30, 2011 4:34pm
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Mar 30, 2011 9:14 PM
robj55;729108 wrote:Total bs, he gassed and lost, what evidence do they have that he threw he fight?

That's what I'm thinking. If that's allowed to happen, it opens an ugly can of worms for fighters.

Got 1-hit KO'd in a close fight? Threw it.
Got subbed late in a round like Garcia against the Zombie Saturday? Threw it.

Less-than-honest sponsors would be looking for any reason to not pay guys who lose.
Mar 30, 2011 5:14pm
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Mar 30, 2011 11:41 PM
Heretic;729162 wrote:That's what I'm thinking. If that's allowed to happen, it opens an ugly can of worms for fighters.

Got 1-hit KO'd in a close fight? Threw it.
Got subbed late in a round like Garcia against the Zombie Saturday? Threw it.

Less-than-honest sponsors would be looking for any reason to not pay guys who lose.

I mean I guess my thing is that he wore your product and promoted it in a main event, he did what he was suppose to do. I guess I don't understand what winning and losing has to do with it?
Mar 30, 2011 7:41pm
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Mar 31, 2011 5:55 AM
Anyone watch episode 1 of TUF? Pretty tame opener. I like Shamar. He didn't have to show much but you can tell he is a solid wrestler and is strong. Needs some ground work though. This is the first season for me that I haven't heard of any of the fighters going in. Should be interesting!
Mar 31, 2011 1:55am
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Mar 31, 2011 12:08 PM
Shamar and Ryan look like the best 2 to me. i think Lesnar whiffed big time on his team picking.
Mar 31, 2011 8:08am
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Mar 31, 2011 12:19 PM
I liked Shamar too, but damn, his ground-game was pathetic. Dude needs to work on his jujitsu badly.
Mar 31, 2011 8:19am
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Mar 31, 2011 7:55 PM
Shamar was a black Jon Fitch, layed and prayed his way to victory lol. When Dana White said the UFC likes fighters, I don't think that's what he meant. Perhaps he was just playing it safe to win.
Mar 31, 2011 3:55pm
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Mar 31, 2011 8:16 PM
Dana did not like that fight and you can tell. He likes wrestlers who actually do something with top control be it striking or submission attempts.

Shamar said he was trying to not show everything, let's hope he was saving a lot of stuff because otherwise he's going to be a really boring fighter to watch.
Mar 31, 2011 4:16pm
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Apr 4, 2011 6:47 PM
Upcoming cards with big fights listed:

Strikeforce: Diaz vs. Daley - April 9th on Showtime from San Diego, California
(c) Nick Diaz vs. Paul Daley for Welterweight Title
(c) Gilbert Melendez vs. Tatsuya Kawajiri for Lightweight Title
Gegard Mousasi vs. Keith Jardine
Shinya Aoki vs. Lyle Beerbohm

UFC 129 - April 30th on PPV from Toronto, Ontario, Canada
(c) Georges St-Pierre vs. Jake Shields for Welterweight Title
(c) Jose Aldo vs. Mark Hominick for Featherweight Title
Randy Couture vs. Lyoto Machida
Jason Brilz vs. Vladimir Matyushenko
Ben Henderson vs. Mark Bocek

UFC 130 - May 28th on PPV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Frankie Edgar (c) vs. Gray Maynard III for Lightweight Title
Rampage Jackson vs. Matt Hamill
Frank Mir vs. Roy Nelson
Stefan Struve vs. Travis Brown
Brian Stann vs. Jorge Santiago
Thiago Alves vs. Rick Story
Miguel Torres vs. Brad Pickett

The Ultimate Fighter 13 Finale - June 4th on Spike TV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Finalist #1 vs. Finalist #2
Clay Guida vs. Anthony Pettis
Josh Grispi vs. George Roop
Scott Jorgensen vs. Ken Stone
Jeremy Stephens vs. Jonathan Brookins

UFC 131 - June 11th on PPV from Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Brock Lesnar vs. Junior dos Santos
Shane Carwin vs. Jon Olav Einemo
Demian Maia vs. Mark Munoz
Kenny Florian vs. Diego Nunes
Mac Danzig vs. Donald Cerrone

Strikeforce: Overeem vs. Werdum - June 18th on Showtime from Dallas, Texas
Alistair Overeem vs. Fabricio Werdum II in Grand Prix quarterfinal
Josh Barnett vs. Brett Rogers in Grand Prix quarterfinal

UFC on Versus 4 - June 26th on Versus from ???,???
Pat Barry vs. Cheick Kongo

UFC 132 - July 2nd on PPV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Dominick Cruz vs. Urijah Faber II for UFC Bantamweight Title
Tito Ortiz vs. Ryan Bader
Evan Dunham vs. George Sotiropoulos
Melvin Guillard vs. Shane Roller

UFC 133 - August 6th on PPV from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
TBA
Apr 4, 2011 2:47pm
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Apr 4, 2011 7:07 PM
Saw a UFC 129 poster on the door of a BW3s and I can't believe there wasn't even a mention of Couture/Machida. How the hell do you not promote that?
Apr 4, 2011 3:07pm
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Apr 4, 2011 7:36 PM
Can't wait for UFC 129!
Apr 4, 2011 3:36pm
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Apr 4, 2011 7:55 PM
I Wear Pants;732505 wrote:Saw a UFC 129 poster on the door of a BW3s and I can't believe there wasn't even a mention of Couture/Machida. How the hell do you not promote that?

Because THIS GUY doesn't give two sh!ts about Couture. He's washed up and represents old UFC. He needs to retire. Thus, UFC is doing the right thing by promoting GSP vs. Shields and the Aldo fight.
Apr 4, 2011 3:55pm
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Apr 4, 2011 8:38 PM
Scarlet_Buckeye;732549 wrote:Because THIS GUY doesn't give two sh!ts about Couture. He's washed up and represents old UFC. He needs to retire. Thus, UFC is doing the right thing by promoting GSP vs. Shields and the Aldo fight.
Washed up as in has a 3 fight streak. Sure they weren't against monsters but apart from Toney they weren't jokes. And Vera is still a good fighter.

And my comment was only because Randy is one of the more well known UFC guys and Machida was recently a guy they were pushing as one of the future best ever so you'd think they'd at least have a mention on the poster.
Apr 4, 2011 4:38pm
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Apr 5, 2011 12:00 AM
Machida will wipe the floor with Couture...won't even be close...that is why it isn't on the poster! (Although I agree that it should be on there..Legend vs. Pretty much a legend...yeah, don't get it..haha)
Apr 4, 2011 8:00pm
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Apr 5, 2011 12:10 AM
couture i think matches up very good against machida. if he can get ahold of him and use his strength to hold him against the cage he can out dirtybox him any day of the week
Apr 4, 2011 8:10pm
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Apr 5, 2011 1:47 PM
sportchampps;732697 wrote:couture i think matches up very good against machida. if he can get ahold of him and use his strength to hold him against the cage he can out dirtybox him any day of the week

I agree with that. I think couture beats him. Closes the distance, puts him up against the cage to tire him out and land those close shots and i also think he'll take him down and punish him. Who ever thinks couture will get crushed is nuts, the man is always in peak condition and I would never use his age against him. He'll go out there and grind machida down.
Apr 5, 2011 9:47am
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Apr 5, 2011 4:35 PM
There's two ways this will go. Machida will dominate or Couture will win a decision by dirty boxing and using his wrestling.

That's what I feel is likely.
Apr 5, 2011 12:35pm
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Apr 5, 2011 4:51 PM
Machida will pick Couture apart IMO. Machida loves guys who lunge at him, he just side steps and tears them apart
Apr 5, 2011 12:51pm
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Apr 5, 2011 5:42 PM
Yeah but Randy doesn't lunge.

Machida is good against powerful strikers because he can sidestep and counter. Couture doesn't do that. He goes for the clinch and takedowns.

It'll either be a domination by Machida or a great chess match won by Couture IMO.
Apr 5, 2011 1:42pm