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jmog

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Nov 30, 2011 2:55 PM
Mulva;994973 wrote:No, I don't believe that my "soul" will spend eternity in a metaphysical location based on whether I was good or bad when living. I'm too logic-driven to buy into it.

I'm really hoping someone on here believes in hell but not heaven though.
Interesting, I'm actually VERY logic driven and that is part of WHY I do believe in heaven and hell.
Nov 30, 2011 2:55pm
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Heretic

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Nov 30, 2011 3:04 PM
dlazz;994971 wrote:Typically after you die there's a funeral and they bury you in the ground.
Unless you're cremated. Then you eventually get smoked by your friends when they run out of herb.
Nov 30, 2011 3:04pm
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Nov 30, 2011 3:04 PM
Believer here.

I also believe that there's a special place for people like these.
Nov 30, 2011 3:04pm
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MontyBrunswick

Nov 30, 2011 3:06 PM
Heretic;995002 wrote:Unless you're cremated. Then you eventually get smoked by your friends when they run out of herb.
That goes without saying.
Nov 30, 2011 3:06pm
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Devils Advocate

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Nov 30, 2011 3:16 PM
Belly35;994913 wrote:I once believed in 40 virgins I’m at number 35 now.. :D
So the 35 virgins are in hell?
Nov 30, 2011 3:16pm
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Nov 30, 2011 4:31 PM
Devils Advocate;994906 wrote:I voted
Hope this helps.
Nov 30, 2011 4:31pm
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1_beast

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Nov 30, 2011 5:34 PM
Where do "out of body" experiences fall into this conversation? I broke my neck 12 years ago....and had one of these experiences. Very weird...yet peaceful!
Nov 30, 2011 5:34pm
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tk421

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Nov 30, 2011 6:02 PM
No.
Nov 30, 2011 6:02pm
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Fab1b

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Nov 30, 2011 6:19 PM
1_beast;995175 wrote:Where do "out of body" experiences fall into this conversation? I broke my neck 12 years ago....and had one of these experiences. Very weird...yet peaceful!
I do not believe in either place, except I consider work hell every now and again, but I do find this facinating along with the paranormal. Care to share your story?
Nov 30, 2011 6:19pm
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I Wear Pants

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Nov 30, 2011 6:47 PM
No.
Nov 30, 2011 6:47pm
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I Wear Pants

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Nov 30, 2011 6:48 PM
OSH;995003 wrote:Believer here.

I also believe that there's a special place for people like these.
I hope you mean the church in that link.
Nov 30, 2011 6:48pm
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robj55

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Nov 30, 2011 7:18 PM
Yes I believe in both, and live my life accordingly because of that belief.
Nov 30, 2011 7:18pm
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Nov 30, 2011 7:29 PM
robj55;995313 wrote:Yes I believe in both, and live my life accordingly because of that belief.
"I only do good things because I'm afraid of negative consequences"

:P
Nov 30, 2011 7:29pm
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Nov 30, 2011 7:34 PM
Fab1b;995241 wrote:I do not believe in either place, except I consider work hell every now and again, but I do find this facinating along with the paranormal. Care to share your story?

lol too many wise asses...I'll message ya.
Nov 30, 2011 7:34pm
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Nov 30, 2011 7:36 PM
1_beast;995333 wrote:lol too many wise asses...I'll message ya.
send it to me as well..i always like to hear that type of stuff
Nov 30, 2011 7:36pm
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Mulva

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Nov 30, 2011 7:49 PM
jmog;994991 wrote:Interesting, I'm actually VERY logic driven and that is part of WHY I do believe in heaven and hell.
You would have to expand on that view for me. Heaven and hell are man made concepts. Believing that how "good" (also based on human morality) a person is determines where an intangible aspect of the self such as the "soul" spends all of eternity doesn't seem logical at all.

It's actually a very narcissistic viewpoint in my opinion. As if humanity is significant in the grand scheme of the universe.
Nov 30, 2011 7:49pm
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Nov 30, 2011 7:56 PM
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Nov 30, 2011 8:04 PM
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Nov 30, 2011 8:41 PM
[h=2]&#8220;Swear There Ain&#8217;t No Heaven And I Pray There Ain&#8217;t No Hell&#8230;<o:p></o:p>[/h]But I&#8217;ll never know by living, only my dying will tell - Blood Sweat and Tears
Nov 30, 2011 8:41pm
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Dr Winston O'Boogie

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Nov 30, 2011 8:47 PM
I hope ther's a heaven. I can't imagine a loving God creating hell. I think it's human natiure to hope for heaven, because it seems part of our nature to want to go on. It also provides a lot of comfort to counter suffering. I go back and forth.
Nov 30, 2011 8:47pm
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Con_Alma

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Nov 30, 2011 9:19 PM
Mulva;995349 wrote:You would have to expand on that view for me. Heaven and hell are man made concepts. Believing that how "good" (also based on human morality) a person is determines where an intangible aspect of the self such as the "soul" spends all of eternity doesn't seem logical at all.

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I believe that how good or bad a person is has absolutely nothing to do with whether they* spend eternity in heaven or hell.
Nov 30, 2011 9:19pm
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Sonofanump

Nov 30, 2011 9:20 PM
If there is nothing after life, what reason would atheists have for any moral decision if there is no consequence for actions? Why not go out and steal, pillage and rape to your content if nothing matters?
Nov 30, 2011 9:20pm
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Nov 30, 2011 9:23 PM
Sonofanump;995524 wrote:If there is nothing after life, what reason would atheists have for any moral decision if there is no consequence for actions? Why not go out and steal, pillage and rape to your content if nothing matters?
I would say that it has to do with the consequences suffered for those crimes while living not dead. I would believe that atheists don't want to go to jail either! What the hell were you trying to prove here?
Nov 30, 2011 9:23pm
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Nov 30, 2011 9:28 PM
Sonofanump;995524 wrote:If there is nothing after life, what reason would atheists have for any moral decision if there is no consequence for actions? Why not go out and steal, pillage and rape to your content if nothing matters?
This is one of the dumbest questions ever. If you can't figure out why on your own you should be wearing a helmet everywhere or are probably an immoral bastard.

You do the right thing because you are a decent person, not because your afraid some sky man is going to torture you for all eternity if you don't. I find the former to be more noble than the latter.
Nov 30, 2011 9:28pm
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Nov 30, 2011 9:29 PM
Sonofanump;995524 wrote:If there is nothing after life, what reason would atheists have for any moral decision if there is no consequence for actions? Why not go out and steal, pillage and rape to your content if nothing matters?
doesnt make much sense...just because you dont believe in God doesnt mean you wouldnt want to live your life the best that you can.
Nov 30, 2011 9:29pm