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I Wear Pants
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Nov 6, 2011 9:33am
So police should be allowed to throw flash bangs at whomever the wish because they don't always lead to injury? Why not just use rubber bullets on everyone? Those don't always kill people so I don't see why folks would complain? Right?Glory Days;960064 wrote:of course flash bangs lead to those things, however they dont always lead to injury.
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Nov 6, 2011 10:11am

Glory Days
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Nov 6, 2011 8:26pm
So a crowd should always be allowed to say whatever they want and never be controlled even if they are chanting they want to hurt and injury cops?I Wear Pants;960115 wrote:So police should be allowed to throw flash bangs at whomever the wish because they don't always lead to injury? Why not just use rubber bullets on everyone? Those don't always kill people so I don't see why folks would complain? Right?
and there are procedures on levels of forced used.

clearly the protesters are ignoring level one and two.
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Nov 6, 2011 8:32pm
Once again, I was talking about insults/taunts. If that is what a crowd is doing then yes, they should be allowed to do it. Grow some thicker skin.
Threats bring with them different legal repercussions I believe depending on what they are and should be dealt with appropriately. I believe I'm allowed saying I'd like to kick someone's ass and as long as I don't actually attempt to do so I'm legally protected. It's different with death threats though. (If I'm wrong there someone please educate me).
American forefathers did not ask for permission to protest from the King.
Threats bring with them different legal repercussions I believe depending on what they are and should be dealt with appropriately. I believe I'm allowed saying I'd like to kick someone's ass and as long as I don't actually attempt to do so I'm legally protected. It's different with death threats though. (If I'm wrong there someone please educate me).
American forefathers did not ask for permission to protest from the King.

Glory Days
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Nov 7, 2011 7:28am
I would say a large crowd insulting/taunting cops while continuing to disobey orders to disperse would constitute a possible threat to property or people.I Wear Pants;961077 wrote:Once again, I was talking about insults/taunts. If that is what a crowd is doing then yes, they should be allowed to do it. Grow some thicker skin.
Threats bring with them different legal repercussions I believe depending on what they are and should be dealt with appropriately. I believe I'm allowed saying I'd like to kick someone's ass and as long as I don't actually attempt to do so I'm legally protected. It's different with death threats though. (If I'm wrong there someone please educate me).
American forefathers did not ask for permission to protest from the King.
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Nov 7, 2011 9:43am
Didn't know cops were so damned sensitive. Do you guys have cry rooms when people call you mean things?Glory Days;961708 wrote:I would say a large crowd insulting/taunting cops while continuing to disobey orders to disperse would constitute a possible threat to property or people.

Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Nov 7, 2011 10:24am
Sometimes you just gotta hug it out.I Wear Pants;961816 wrote:Didn't know cops were so damned sensitive. Do you guys have cry rooms when people call you mean things?

Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Nov 7, 2011 12:38pm
wtf mofo
This bitch speaks like I type..
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Nov 7, 2011 3:03pm
Reps.Glory Days;961859 wrote:Sometimes you just gotta hug it out.

majorspark
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Nov 7, 2011 3:11pm
Occupy DC thugs shove a couple of grandmas to the ground.
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Nov 7, 2011 3:32pm
I didn't see them get shoved there. If someone did do that to the ladies then the police there should have done their jobs and arrested them. Pretty simple and not an indictment of the movement as a whole.

pmoney25
Posts: 1,787
Nov 7, 2011 4:40pm
Hey Hey, Ho Ho , The corporate greed has got to go

BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Nov 7, 2011 4:50pm
If the OWS crowd is "just like the Tea Party", then they need to be just like the Tea Party and pay-up. Nobody rides for free.
http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/850c772fd9004fc5ac0585aef836fefb/VA--Tea-Party-Occupy-Protests/
http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/850c772fd9004fc5ac0585aef836fefb/VA--Tea-Party-Occupy-Protests/
Richmond, Va. — The Richmond tea party is demanding a refund of about $10,000 from the city, claiming it unfairly charged them for rallies while allowing the Occupy protesters to use the same space for several weeks for free.
The political organization is sending the city an invoice for the charges incurred for three rallies held in Kanawha Plaza over the past three years. The Occupy protesters have been camped in the plaza since Oct. 15.
Richmond Tea Party spokeswoman Colleen Owens says it's not fair that her group had to pay fees for permits, portable toilets, police presence and emergency personnel. The group also had to purchase a $1 million insurance policy.
Tea party groups across the nation have raised similar concerns since the protests spread from New York earlier this month.

sleeper
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Nov 7, 2011 5:02pm
That's pretty cool. I hope the Tea Party either gets there money back or charges OWS for using the space.

Glory Days
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Nov 7, 2011 8:18pm
police didnt witness the crime, cant arrest on site. however if they were allowed to disperse the crowd, never would have happendI Wear Pants;962218 wrote:I didn't see them get shoved there. If someone did do that to the ladies then the police there should have done their jobs and arrested them. Pretty simple and not an indictment of the movement as a whole.

O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Nov 7, 2011 8:26pm
And if we shut down bars, bar fights won't happen.Glory Days;962558 wrote:police didnt witness the crime, cant arrest on site. however if they were allowed to disperse the crowd, never would have happend
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gut
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Nov 7, 2011 8:52pm
It's not OWS' fault that the TEA Party was unwilling to wallow in their own filth compelling the city to address health concerns.
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Nov 7, 2011 10:34pm
If police are allowed to seize all guns, people won't get shot.Glory Days;962558 wrote:police didnt witness the crime, cant arrest on site. however if they were allowed to disperse the crowd, never would have happend

O-Trap
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Nov 7, 2011 10:37pm
Well, that's not true, since it would be easy to buy new ones from outside the US, but it WOULD eliminate deaths resulting from registered firearms.I Wear Pants;962727 wrote:If police are allowed to seize all guns, people won't get shot.

majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Nov 7, 2011 11:06pm
The nutbag crowd pressed against them resulting in two grannies going down. The few cops would have had to arrest most of the crowd.I Wear Pants;962218 wrote:I didn't see them get shoved there. If someone did do that to the ladies then the police there should have done their jobs and arrested them.
Not this one incident. But you have rapes, underage girls getting banged, groping of women, defacating on cop cars, and the list goes on. There is not a large amount of people involved in the movement nationally. So this many instances in a short period of time is quite disturbing.I Wear Pants;962218 wrote: Pretty simple and not an indictment of the movement as a whole.

Cleveland Buck
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Nov 7, 2011 11:40pm
Fixed that for you. Assuming you mean they seize ALL guns, meaning every gun on Earth.I Wear Pants;962727 wrote:If police are allowed to seize all guns, only the police will shoot people.

Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Nov 7, 2011 11:56pm
There has been more filth and violence at any one of these sites than all the Tea Party rallies put together. The behavior of the people in the "movement" is indictment enough.I Wear Pants;962218 wrote:I didn't see them get shoved there. If someone did do that to the ladies then the police there should have done their jobs and arrested them. Pretty simple and not an indictment of the movement as a whole.

fish82
Posts: 4,111
Nov 8, 2011 6:50am
Why would they need cry rooms? They get to fuck you people up with flashbangs and rubber bullets. They're probably at peace with that.I Wear Pants;961816 wrote:Didn't know cops were so damned sensitive. Do you guys have cry rooms when people call you mean things?
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Nov 8, 2011 6:54am
Guys the gun comment was obviously supposed to be false.
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Con_Alma
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Nov 8, 2011 7:04am
Screaming at a police office and inciting a crown to can be considered disorderly conduct. Why don't the protestors simply protest? They would garner more respect and attention from those they are trying to influence.