LJ;811010 wrote:So someone telling me I have to pay them to take MY property when they are not within the law is not me feeling threatened? I showed I have a gun to protect myself. You realize Ohio has open carry right? It has to leave the hoslter for it to be brandishing. This isn't Texas where you get arrested for your shirt coming above the gun or printing. Can't do that. You can't hold someone's property hostage. PLUS, he had not booted the car yet. Like I said, I don't know how things work where you are, but Columbus would not let that fly. You can tag it and tow it, that's it. Can't boot it.

Then why are you acting like he has a right to boot the car?

SportsAndLady;811014 wrote:If LJ has the proper permit (which I'm sure he does), showing your gun in your holster is never a crime. Pulling it out? Yeah. But just tucking your shirt back isn't a crime lol

LJ could intimidate him all he wants, if you don't pull it out, there's nothing illegal there.



But he is presenting physical harm to my vehicle, because i'm unable to move it without harming it. That's illegal, isn't it? You can't just go around parking behind people's cars and asking for money to move. I know I was in a lot I wasn't permitted to be in, but this guy had no right to be in there either. He didn't have a permit to be there, or else he would have showed it to me when I asked him. If he would have said "I work for Bobcat Rentals, I was sent here to boot your car" I would have said okay I ****ed up. But he was just some random ****head with a big pickup truck.

Glory Days;811670 wrote:open carry or not, its the way you did it. had the gun been out prior to his arrival or maybe as you were just getting in the car it printed a little, thats different. you know darn well you did it with intent to show him you had a gun and it comes down to how the hillbilly perceives your actions. and no, it doesnt have to leave the holster. thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard come from your post, you are better than that i know it. you're telling me two people start arguing and one lifts his shirt up to show he has a gun in a holster, that isnt threatening in any manner? just because you did it nonchalantly doesnt make it any less threatening to the other person.

if you were at home and you heard a commotion out in the driveway, you go outside and a guy is backing out of your driveway with your car. are you going to start shooting him?

also, i wonder what the state defines as "preparing". it could be pretty lenient and maybe simple contacting the tow company and setting them in motion is considered preparation.

Glory Days;810927 wrote:haha so in your case, you actually deserved the boot on your car, yet decided to destroy someone else's property?

sportchampps;811986 wrote:how can you prove he didnt have a itch that when he itched it just so happened it made his gun visible. There is no way for keeping ur gun holstered they could prove you were doing it to threaten someone unless their were witnesses who can hear you make a threat about the gun as you showed it

ccrunner609;810607 wrote:haha so much for that college degree when it comes to smarts. Obviously some hillbilly is smarter then you.

ccrunner609;810619 wrote:i dont teach english so hence I dont give a shit

LJ;811926 wrote:Remind me to stay out of unfriendly NE Ohio. I felt threatened. He wouldn't let me leave. This would not be a problem in Central Ohio. Not in the least.

:rolleyes:

I obviously have 100x more experience in dealing with contracted parking enforcement.

sportchampps;811986 wrote:how can you prove he didnt have a itch that when he itched it just so happened it made his gun visible. There is no way for keeping ur gun holstered they could prove you were doing it to threaten someone unless their were witnesses who can hear you make a threat about the gun as you showed it

Glory Days;812436 wrote:lets see, you are obviously upset this guy is tring to boot your car. he can see this as you argue with him. during the heated exchange while telling this guy you are leaving and with your car, you suddenly tuck your untucked shirt into your pants and reveal a gun. you can play dumb all you want, but your intent was to intimidate this guy.

O-Trap;812495 wrote:Yes, but everything above would be circumstantial, I would think.

Bigred1995;812500 wrote:Police officers don't worry about what is circumstantial or not. They can make an arrest for anything and let the lawyers settle what is arrest worthy or not!

LJ;812002 wrote:EGGZACTLY!!

There are a few counties in NEO that would try to prosecute, but the sane counties wouldn't.

Glory Days;812435 wrote:just saying you felt threatend means nothing. how did he not let you leave? walking away wont work? calling the cops wasnt an option in this non violent situation? you have yet to articulate anything. the dude was there to put a boot on your car. he made no advances towards you or anyone you are with and was not aggressive. what did this guy do that made you think he would cause serious physical harm to you or those with you?

Glory Days;812436 wrote:lets see, you are obviously upset this guy is tring to boot your car. he can see this as you argue with him. during the heated exchange while telling this guy you are leaving and with your car, you suddenly tuck your untucked shirt into your pants and reveal a gun. you can play dumb all you want, but your intent was to intimidate this guy.

O-Trap;812561 wrote:I suppose this question needs asked: Does 'defending oneself' include defending his property?

O-Trap;812561 wrote:I suppose this question needs asked: Does 'defending oneself' include defending his property?

SportsAndLady;812589 wrote:Or more in my case, does threatening someone include threatenin their property?

Thinthickbigred;812653 wrote:Im calling 911 and tell them im in danger ..If whatever means necisary to protect ones self and property god help him if friends are around because by the time we are done with him he may not even be driving his own vehicle away .. he may be laid out and find his vehicle gone and ran into a ditch a mile away and wrecked completely

coyotes22;812658 wrote:Two wrongs, dont make a right!!

Thinthickbigred;812653 wrote:Im calling 911 and tell them im in danger ..If whatever means necisary to protect ones self and property god help him if friends are around because by the time we are done with him he may not even be driving his own vehicle away .. he may be laid out and find his vehicle gone and ran into a ditch a mile away and wrecked completely

Thinthickbigred;812653 wrote:Im calling 911 and tell them im in danger ..If whatever means necisary to protect ones self and property god help him if friends are around because by the time we are done with him he may not even be driving his own vehicle away .. he may be laid out and find his vehicle gone and ran into a ditch a mile away and wrecked completely