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Jun 22, 2011 9:12 PM
Glory Days;810602 wrote:definitely would have called the cops on this one. but you never know, the guy could be independently contracted by the owner's of the lot, so who knows.



read the law, it says after being prepared but before leaving the property. if the car is on the hook and in the spot still, i'd call that being "prepared".
You misread what I said. And I posted the fucking law, don't you think I read it? :rolleyes:

what are you going to do when he calls your bluff because he is right.
He is right about what? According to S&L he had not touched the vehicle. He was not right about ANYTHING. He had to release the vehicle for no fee.
Jun 22, 2011 9:12pm
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Jun 22, 2011 9:34 PM
LJ;810648 wrote:You misread what I said. And I posted the ****ing law, don't you think I read it? :rolleyes:


He is right about what? According to S&L he had not touched the vehicle. He was not right about ANYTHING. He had to release the vehicle for no fee.

probably misread it. but either way, that guy has more of a right to be on that private property than you do. not only that, he wasnt towing it, just booting it with permission from the owner of that property, it was not being "removed". (i am going off the guy was contracted to be doing this work, like i said in my post, call the cops to get this stuff verified.)

also, you'd have to check with the city of athens, not every city requires tow operators to be licensed. you never know with a place like athens.
Jun 22, 2011 9:34pm
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Jun 22, 2011 9:44 PM
Glory Days;810693 wrote:probably misread it. but either way, that guy has more of a right to be on that private property than you do. not only that, he wasnt towing it, just booting it with permission from the owner of that property, it was not being "removed". (i am going off the guy was contracted to be doing this work, like i said in my post, call the cops to get this stuff verified.)

also, you'd have to check with the city of athens, not every city requires tow operators to be licensed. you never know with a place like athens.

How does he have more right than S&L? He never showed he had permission from the property owner. Some random guy can't get boot someones car.
Jun 22, 2011 9:44pm
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Jun 22, 2011 9:44 PM
Glory Days;810693 wrote:probably misread it. but either way, that guy has more of a right to be on that private property than you do.
ok?
not only that, he wasnt towing it, just booting it with permission from the owner of that property, it was not being "removed". (i am going off the guy was contracted to be doing this work, like i said in my post, call the cops to get this stuff verified.)
So? He hasn't touched the vehicle. He has no right to hold the property.
also, you'd have to check with the city of athens, not every city requires tow operators to be licensed. you never know with a place like athens.
No tow truck or tow truck operator who regularly operates a commercial towing business within the corporation limits of Athens shall engage in such business within the corporation limits or offer such service to any motor vehicle upon the streets or public right-of-way of Athens unless a license has been issued and is in force for that tow truck and operator.
Jun 22, 2011 9:44pm
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Jun 22, 2011 9:47 PM
Automatik;809756 wrote:Shamrock towing.

If you burn their building to the ground, I'll drive the getaway car.
Jun 22, 2011 9:47pm
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Jun 22, 2011 10:12 PM
stroups;810608 wrote:

yep that got me
Jun 22, 2011 10:12pm
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Jun 22, 2011 10:14 PM
Con_Alma;810609 wrote:So much for that college degree indeed.

This was a beautiful post.
ccrunner609;810619 wrote:i dont teach english so hence I dont give a shit

Well OP probably didn't get a dregree in scam evasion, either. Doesn't mean he shouldn't have called the cops, just like it doesn't mean you shouldn't know the difference between "then" and "than."

Also, saying "so hence" is redundant.
2kool4skool;810708 wrote:If you burn their building to the ground, I'll drive the getaway car.

Nah. You hire a pro for that kind of thing.

I know a guy ... ;)
Jun 22, 2011 10:14pm
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Jun 22, 2011 10:19 PM
ccrunner609;810619 wrote:i dont teach english so hence I dont give a ****

You teach the future of America. Regardless of what you teach, whether it is elementary art, HS English, Calc... you SHOULD care!
Jun 22, 2011 10:19pm
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Jun 22, 2011 10:29 PM
ernest_t_bass;810760 wrote:You teach the future of America. Regardless of what you teach, whether it is elementary art, HS English, Calc... you SHOULD care!

This.
Jun 22, 2011 10:29pm
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Jun 22, 2011 10:45 PM
Lol lots of lulz in the last 20 or so posts.

Yeah so much for my college degree that got me a full time job starting 9 days after I graduated...if only I could have known property law a little more so I could avoid losing 50 bucks!

Still k to dodgeball ccrunner
Jun 22, 2011 10:45pm
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Jun 23, 2011 12:25 AM
pnhasbeen;810705 wrote:How does he have more right than S&L? He never showed he had permission from the property owner. Some random guy can't get boot someones car.

he never showed S&L. thats why in my posts, i still say call the cops. but if that guy does have permission, he isnt trespassing, S&L is.
Jun 23, 2011 12:25am
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Jun 23, 2011 12:28 AM
LJ;810706 wrote:ok? So? He hasn't touched the vehicle. He has no right to hold the property.

assuming he is licensed and probably contracted by the owner of that private property, he does. you're trespassing and going to flash your gun because he wants to boot your vehicle, have fun in jail.
Jun 23, 2011 12:28am
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Jun 23, 2011 12:30 AM
Glory Days;810882 wrote:he never showed S&L. thats why in my posts, i still say call the cops. but if that guy does have permission, he isnt trespassing, S&L is.

If he has permission he would prove it.
Jun 23, 2011 12:30am
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Jun 23, 2011 12:45 AM
haha i think i know the exact guy ur talking about. We were running late to an intermural game and the lot was full so our friend parked in the aprtments right by the fields. About the 2nd inning i see our friend and first baseman take off running toward his car. The dude demanded 50$ or he would boot it and tow it. My friend looked at the dude and got in his car and told the guy my suvs only worth about $500 bucks how much is ur truck worth and started to reverse. the dude actually jumped inbetween him and the truck so our friend jumped the curbstone and went and found parking in the intermual lots. so the guy went over there and tried to boot his car in that lot until our friend called the cops and he took off. The dude also pulled this all the time on new south in the parking in front of the dorms
Jun 23, 2011 12:45am
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Jun 23, 2011 1:02 AM
pnhasbeen;810888 wrote:If he has permission he would prove it.

it could be on the sign posted at the entrance of the lot too.
Jun 23, 2011 1:02am
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Jun 23, 2011 1:10 AM
Glory Days;810901 wrote:it could be on the sign posted at the entrance of the lot too.

Again, when asked he'd prove it rather than say he works for no one. Nobody legit in that business wants to deal with more hassle than they already have.
Jun 23, 2011 1:10am
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Jun 23, 2011 1:52 AM
Glory Days;810693 wrote:probably misread it. but either way, that guy has more of a right to be on that private property than you do. not only that, he wasnt towing it, just booting it with permission from the owner of that property, it was not being "removed". (i am going off the guy was contracted to be doing this work, like i said in my post, call the cops to get this stuff verified.)

also, you'd have to check with the city of athens, not every city requires tow operators to be licensed. you never know with a place like athens.

If the guy is not hooked or has not booted the car, he has no right to hold the S&L's property hostage after S&L agreed to move his vehicle.

I actually had this happen to me about 8 years ago when I was in college. Parked in a lot that was for residents at an apartment building. When I came outside, there was a boot on my car with a sticker on the window and a number. I called, they guy told me I had to pay $35 to have the boot removed. I tryed reasoning with him to no avail. So after looking at how this particular boot was "booted" to my tire, I realized I could take the tire off, with the boot still hooked, and put my spare on. This is exactly what I did.

The next day I took a sawzall and sawed that bitch right off my tire. I looked up the boot online (it was called Bulldog boots, or something like that) and it was $300. So instead of this asshole just forfeiting the $35 fee and taking the boot off, he lost a $300 boot. I got the last laugh in that one!

I would have never gave the guy the $50. As others have said, I would have asked for identification and called the police and sat there all day waiting for him to either move or wait for the cops to show up.
Jun 23, 2011 1:52am
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Jun 23, 2011 1:56 AM
This is the exact brand and type of boot that was on my car. Just took the tire off and then cut that piece of shit off. hahahaha


http://www.tirelock.com/PitBull_Tirelock_p/8-00022.htm
Jun 23, 2011 1:56am
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Jun 23, 2011 2:01 AM
dwccrew;810913 wrote:If the guy is not hooked or has not booted the car, he has no right to hold the S&L's property hostage after S&L agreed to move his vehicle.

I actually had this happen to me about 8 years ago when I was in college. Parked in a lot that was for residents at an apartment building. When I came outside, there was a boot on my car with a sticker on the window and a number. I called, they guy told me I had to pay $35 to have the boot removed. I tryed reasoning with him to no avail. So after looking at how this particular boot was "booted" to my tire, I realized I could take the tire off, with the boot still hooked, and put my spare on. This is exactly what I did.

The next day I took a sawzall and sawed that bitch right off my tire. I looked up the boot online (it was called Bulldog boots, or something like that) and it was $300. So instead of this asshole just forfeiting the $35 fee and taking the boot off, he lost a $300 boot. I got the last laugh in that one!

I would have never gave the guy the $50. As others have said, I would have asked for identification and called the police and sat there all day waiting for him to either move or wait for the cops to show up.

Jun 23, 2011 2:01am
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Jun 23, 2011 2:22 AM
should have rammed his truck. just for spite
Jun 23, 2011 2:22am
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Jun 23, 2011 2:43 AM
dwccrew;810913 wrote:If the guy is not hooked or has not booted the car, he has no right to hold the S&L's property hostage after S&L agreed to move his vehicle.

I actually had this happen to me about 8 years ago when I was in college. Parked in a lot that was for residents at an apartment building. When I came outside, there was a boot on my car with a sticker on the window and a number. I called, they guy told me I had to pay $35 to have the boot removed. I tryed reasoning with him to no avail. So after looking at how this particular boot was "booted" to my tire, I realized I could take the tire off, with the boot still hooked, and put my spare on. This is exactly what I did.

The next day I took a sawzall and sawed that bitch right off my tire. I looked up the boot online (it was called Bulldog boots, or something like that) and it was $300. So instead of this **** just forfeiting the $35 fee and taking the boot off, he lost a $300 boot. I got the last laugh in that one!

I would have never gave the guy the $50. As others have said, I would have asked for identification and called the police and sat there all day waiting for him to either move or wait for the cops to show up.

haha so in your case, you actually deserved the boot on your car, yet decided to destroy someone else's property?

and for the record and like the 3rd time, S&L should have called the cops in this situation just like i would have if it was me.
Jun 23, 2011 2:43am
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Jun 23, 2011 6:53 AM
Glory Days;810884 wrote:assuming he is licensed and probably contracted by the owner of that private property, he does. you're trespassing and going to flash your gun because he wants to boot your vehicle, have fun in jail.

He DOES NOT have permission to hold the car. I really hope you don't enforce the law like that. That shit does NOT fly in Columbus. Trespassing is one thing. Holding the car while the owner wants to move it is another. There are laws in place about tow trucks for a reason.

BTW, my gun is not being flashed, it's still holstered, not only that, but I feel threatened that this person who has not identified themselves, has no tow license number displayed, and has not began to touch my vehcile, is physically not letting me leave without paying them. I'd be fine.
Jun 23, 2011 6:53am
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Jun 23, 2011 9:17 AM
LJ;810939 wrote:He DOES NOT have permission to hold the car. I really hope you don't enforce the law like that. That **** does NOT fly in Columbus. Trespassing is one thing. Holding the car while the owner wants to move it is another. There are laws in place about tow trucks for a reason.

BTW, my gun is not being flashed, it's still holstered, not only that, but I feel threatened that this person who has not identified themselves, has no tow license number displayed, and has not began to touch my vehcile, is physically not letting me leave without paying them. I'd be fine.

haha ok, well you wouldnt be fine. holstered or not, you showed him you had a gun to intimidate him. even if this guy wants to be an ass and not let you move the car, he isnt presenting any serious physical harm to you or anyone you are with. you could just walk away he was there for the car, not you. what would you do if this guy called your bluff and went on to boot your car? pull your gun and tell him to unboot it? this would be an easy aggravated menacing case.

also, this guy didnt have a tow truck, he was just booting the car. do the same laws apply? the state law only mentions removal of the vehicle. there are some private lots around here that boot vehicles and leave them there for a week as punishment.

and how i would enforce this law if i was called to the scene. i'd tell the hillbilly with the boot to stop being an ass(even IF he had a right to boot the car) and leave and tell S&L to move his vehicle and dont park there anymore.
Jun 23, 2011 9:17am
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Jun 23, 2011 9:37 AM
Glory Days;810996 wrote:haha ok, well you wouldnt be fine. holstered or not, you showed him you had a gun to intimidate him. even if this guy wants to be an ass and not let you move the car, he isnt presenting any serious physical harm to you or anyone you are with. you could just walk away he was there for the car, not you. what would you do if this guy called your bluff and went on to boot your car? pull your gun and tell him to unboot it? this would be an easy aggravated menacing case.
So someone telling me I have to pay them to take MY property when they are not within the law is not me feeling threatened? I showed I have a gun to protect myself. You realize Ohio has open carry right? It has to leave the hoslter for it to be brandishing. This isn't Texas where you get arrested for your shirt coming above the gun or printing.
also, this guy didnt have a tow truck, he was just booting the car. do the same laws apply? the state law only mentions removal of the vehicle. there are some private lots around here that boot vehicles and leave them there for a week as punishment.
Can't do that. You can't hold someone's property hostage. PLUS, he had not booted the car yet. Like I said, I don't know how things work where you are, but Columbus would not let that fly. You can tag it and tow it, that's it. Can't boot it.
and how i would enforce this law if i was called to the scene. i'd tell the hillbilly with the boot to stop being an ass(even IF he had a right to boot the car) and leave and tell S&L to move his vehicle and dont park there anymore.

Then why are you acting like he has a right to boot the car?
Jun 23, 2011 9:37am
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Jun 23, 2011 9:41 AM
Glory Days;810996 wrote:holstered or not, you showed him you had a gun to intimidate him.
If LJ has the proper permit (which I'm sure he does), showing your gun in your holster is never a crime. Pulling it out? Yeah. But just tucking your shirt back isn't a crime lol

LJ could intimidate him all he wants, if you don't pull it out, there's nothing illegal there.
Glory Days;810996 wrote:even if this guy wants to be an ass and not let you move the car, he isnt presenting any serious physical harm to you or anyone you are with.
But he is presenting physical harm to my vehicle, because i'm unable to move it without harming it. That's illegal, isn't it? You can't just go around parking behind people's cars and asking for money to move. I know I was in a lot I wasn't permitted to be in, but this guy had no right to be in there either. He didn't have a permit to be there, or else he would have showed it to me when I asked him. If he would have said "I work for Bobcat Rentals, I was sent here to boot your car" I would have said okay I fucked up. But he was just some random fuckhead with a big pickup truck.
Jun 23, 2011 9:41am