j_crazy;564667 wrote:that settles that.

people want this thing to be dirty so bad that they are starting to make shit up.

this is causing me to lean more towards the "he's cleaner than we think" camp.

se-alum;565100 wrote:Really?? So, someone's lawyer comes out defending his client, and you are convinced that people are making things up?? If I ever need to hire a lawyer for anything, and he doesn't defend my position, he is fired. I don't see how this changes anything.

Cleveland Buck;564509 wrote:This sounds likes SMU back in the day. Maybe the death penalty is in Auburn's future.

enigmaax;565073 wrote:From ncaa.org:

"The won-lost records for each of the opposing teams are not changed when games are vacated."

krambman;565331 wrote:The NCAA will never give out the death penalty again. Florida State had cheating on nearly every sports team organized by the academic liaison staff and didn't get the death penalty. USC had major violations in at least three sports all at once and didn't get the death penalty. Those cases showed a clear lack of institutional control, which is necessary for the death penalty and neither school got anything close to it. The death penalty not only set the SMU athletic department back 30+ years but it nearly bankrupted the school. The NCAA had no clue about the kind of economic impact that it would have. Now that they do they will never give it out again.

LOS ANGELES (LALATE) – Lost in the Cam Newton denials yesterday was one peculiar revelation. Why did Cam Newton allegedly retain the same lawyer as his father, while he tries to defend himself against his father’s conduct during the Mississippi State recruiting process?


WSBTV spoke to attorney George Lawson this week in an exclusive report in which the station claims that Larson is the “lawyer for Auburn University quarterback Cam Newton and his father”. Lawson offered the station a series of denials on behalf of his client Cam Newton. But Lawson added, that whatever client Cecil Newton did with Mississippi State, his other client Cam Newton wasn’t involved with.


The NCAA has said that solicitation of money alone is a violation. “[T]he solicitation of cash or benefits by a prospective student-athlete or another individual on his or her behalf is not allowed under NCAA rules.”

But the NCAA has not made clear what is the standard for “on his behalf”. The key for Cam Newton is those three words. The assertion being made by the Newton camp is that whatever was said by Cecil Newton for Cam Newton it wasn’t “on his behalf.” Yes, Cecil Newton is Cam’s father. Yes, he allegedly communicated payment plans and money demands in the Mississippi State recruitment. But if he did, was it really “on his behalf”.

Moreover, can an athlete, allegedly knowledgeable of who was handling his recruiting, simply defend any solicitation accusation by arguing lack of knowledge? The NCAA has to explain. NCAA officials made clear last week that it will not speak to the news media about “current, pending or potential investigations”,

enigmaax;565463 wrote:Technically, the NCAA has the right to enact that penalty for more severe actions though I don't know that is really spelled out. I believe that the NCAA has actually handed this punishment out 2 or 3 times since the SMU penalty, but I don't think it was for football and obviously not at the DI or FBS level (just can't remember off the top of my head - and I could be wrong).

SportsAndLady;565507 wrote:There have been 2 since the SMU death penalty, and yes they were not D1 and were not football programs. It was Morehouse College's soccer program in I think 04 and 05. And then MacMurrray College's tennis program in 05 and 06. I think Morehouse was D2 and MacMurray was D3.

There was a death penalty for a basketball program, before the SMU death penalty. I don't remember the name of the school but it is now called Louisiana Lafayette and it was in 73 I believe.

The UK thing was a bit different because I do not believe their seasons were cancelled, I think they just couldn't play conference games, and Walter Byers' convinced teams not to schedule UK so they were forced to play scrimmages basically.

RT @jselingo: NCAA president on Newton case. "The burden of proof is higher than for someone writing in a blog."

cats gone wild;565741 wrote:Topic on Tigerdroppings about Auburn/Cam making big news. Of course there are a kazillion amount of topics about Cam, but this one......wow.

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/11/19/all-that-and-a-bag-of-mail-gus-johnson-charles-barkley-togethe/

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/messagetopic.asp?p=22778676

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/default.asp?b=12

dat dude;565815 wrote:Wow. Just wow.

SportsAndLady;565886 wrote:Read what though? The tiger dropping thread? or the first article posted?

There was 3 items listed, I didn't know if there was one that had breaking news or something.

OneBuckeye;565921 wrote:If people read page 6 of this thread it is essentially summerizes the situation.

OneBuckeye;565921 wrote:If people read page 6 of this thread it is essentially summerizes the situation.