I don't know what cause the other thread to get locked (I have my ideas but not really sure what the main reason was) I figured since it turned "serious" I bring it to the Serious Business forum.

So when do you think Creek will turn it around?

Here is my answer:

1. New Head Coach

"We have a 10-game schedule and we want to play every game hard and we want to play every game to the best of our ability. I think we did that tonight and I'm proud of the kids for it," Indian Creek coach Andrew Connor said. "We just want to play hard, play physical and play to the whistle. I thought we did that in the second half and it is something that we can continue to build upon."

When you play well against another teams 2nd and 3rd squads with some players being as young as freshman you should play harder, more physical and be able to go form snap to whistle because the ICHS boys should have been more football playing exp.

2. The name of the stadium needs changed. The stadium is named after Robert Kettlewell who never had anything to do with ICHS football. (sad note here, a member of the community offered to build a brand new football field for ICHS if they would name it after his daughter or granddaughter I don't remember wich. The board voted him down. Kettlewells wife was on the board at that time. Another reason why people from Mingo have a hard time respecting anything Wintersville)

3. Update the locker rooms for playoff games. ICHS lockers are out dated. Where there lockers are now the students have to cross a road to play any game. With this they are not allowed to have playoff games. There is plenty of room to relocate the locker rooms.

4. New uniforms. The colors and logo is out dated. Black and Red w/gold would be a nice outfit for our kids to play in. It is no longer about Mingo and Wintersville but looking good while winning.

5. Assistant Coaches have been the same now for almost ten years. When a new coached is hired let him bring in his own staff. There might be good coaches on the staff but they are over shadowed by the coaches that have no business coaching.

6. Hire people that know about football. There was talented players that went through the halls of ICHS and started to coach with the team only to leave because they were not going to be given a chance. Want pride hire someone that had pride in our colors already not blue and gold again.

7. No more CCHS grads allowed to coach at ICHS. I don't know why ICHS hiring board has a crush on CCHS grads but they do and its enough. If they were to good to go through our halls they are to good to work here.

8. Update the football field. That field has been the same since it was opened. Same rivets and mud holes as when my grandfather played there.

9. Allow players to have free time the last period of the day to lift or study play books. Football is a job. If you want to be good at your job you have to work at it. Give these kids the time to work and be good at their job.

10. Weight Room. I haven't been in the weight room in probally five years but I doubt it has changed much. At one time it was the metal shop room. Update this with state of the art equipment.

The money is there for these changes to happen. The people that have the money though no longer give to ICHS because they do nothing with the money but waste it any time they get it.

11. Hire someone who can handle money. I don't know who they have doing it now but they are not doing a good job of it.

It got shit canned because people were trashing the school and it's people. I will let this slide, but it will be gone as soon as it happens again.

You have some valid points Manaze, but you seem to think that Creek is swimming in money.I am sure you have seen the baseball field. The field itself is one of the best in the area,but they cant seem to improve it. I am talking restrooms,concession stand,pressbox etc. I also heard from a teacher the other day that Creek is in the worst financial situation since its conception. The list you wrote is nothing more than a wishlist that wont be fulfilled anytime soon.
Did you happen to read the basketball preview in the herald rag today? The coach said he doesnt have a player over 6'2". And you wonder whats wrong with the football team. Wait until you see the o-line and d-line next season and thats the reason they wont win 6 games. Dont blame the coaches.

go look at the band though. I've seen bigger kids in the band then on the field. There is money at creek but for it to come out they have to play well, you know boosters.

I agree. There are alot of big boys and alot of athletes walking the halls that dont play football. I dont know the reason. But you play the cards that you are dealt.

Here's the deal. This is a thread about the performance of the HS football team at Indian Creek and it's potential for improvement. The impression I have is that the first thread closed or vanished because it turned into this troll-fest with fans of another school constantly making derogatory comments. Whether this one stands or also falls, it belongs on this forum.....not the Serious Business one.

If people want to discuss what needs to be better at IC, cool. If outsiders want to just bash this program...not cool. Like Wes said....either discuss this maturely or don't discuss it. Simply insulting other schools and programs isn't cool.

The Money I suspect ,lastly will go to the football team at IC, and they need a WHOLE NEW COACHING STAFF.
I don't understand IC's crush on CONNOR either. Maybe because he is neutral, or (CENTRAL) between Mingo and Wintersville.
This consilation is still having trouble, but not with kids, it's with the adults and school board.

How anybody back in the day put Wintersville and Mingo in the same school district is beyond me.lol

Wintersville was broke, Mingo had money. Neither was a city so the state stepped in and had an arranged marriage.

I will agree with you 100% on the fact that there is a Mingo/Wintersville war. However, a lot of people got over that and a levy was finally able to pass. There are some bitter people still hanging onto their sour feelings for one reason or another, but improvement will not be made by being that bitter.

As for a weight room, I don't know what kind of progress is being made, but the plan was to transform that entire end of the building into a weight room/wrestling area after the band relocated to their new facility. I don't know if that is still in the works, or exactly what is going on, but I know that was the plan.

Coaching WAS a problem. Although the people remained mostly the same, the strategies changed, and the proof is in the record. I know 6-4 is nothing to some of you high rollers, but fans of the Creek who believe in the school and the program know what a monumental change occurred last year. Believe it or not, your choice.

As for giving time off of classes to work on football...stupid stupid stupid!
The actual football season is 10 weeks of the school year (a few more if you make playoffs). MAYBE one or two graduating football players will go on to have any success with football in college or beyond (and this is for many schools, not just Creek). Why would you even think of jeopardizing those kids' education so that the high school football team can be successful?! I am one of the biggest high school football fans out there, but I have not lost touch with reality. It is your education that will get you somewhere in life. Unfortunately, we live in an area where education is often not given the priority and respect it deserves, but look at statistics. Education is the key to success for most people. Skimping on that for football is ludicrous.

And as for all of the garbage about the name of the stadium, the color of the uniforms, yada yada yada, none of that affects the success of a team. Okay, so the field never has been in the best of shape. So what? When you play on it, the other team is playing on that same field, so there is no disadvantage there. And hello, one of the strongest teams in the area wears purple! The name of the stadium...I'll write that off to more Mingo bitterness. (And just so you know, I attended a Mingo elementary school and lived in Mingo most of my school years at Creek.)

I don't know what your grudge is against the district Manaze, but as many of my fellow Creek fans have asked of you, please take your hatred somewhere else!

why is it hate to want the best for our kids. you clearly show how much you support losing. I'm tired of it. there has not been a better record other than 6-4 (and yes other coaches have gone 6-4 before Connors) since Sam has left. We are better than that but yet most parents in the school district are ok with that. I am not and if it comes down to it I won't let me kids play for ICHS. Its my choice as a parent to make sure that my kids are pointed into the right direction and that dosen't happen at ICHS.

MANAZE wrote: why is it hate to want the best for our kids. you clearly show how much you support losing. I'm tired of it. there has not been a better record other than 6-4 (and yes other coaches have gone 6-4 before Connors) since Sam has left. We are better than that but yet most parents in the school district are ok with that. I am not and if it comes down to it I won't let me kids play for ICHS. Its my choice as a parent to make sure that my kids are pointed into the right direction and that dosen't happen at ICHS.

I agree wholeheartedly...it is your decision. But why publish it and, in the process, degrade those of us who support the school? If YOU want to get out of Creek, GET OUT! Don't sit and degrade us for supporting our alma mater. Just go already! You aren't going to inspire a reform of the district, the facilities and the football program, especially with your negativity! So go!

You don't have to be 6'2 to be good at football...for one thing.

Does Creek have a certified strength and conditioning coach??? I know at SHS the S&C coach teaches a fitness class, where kids improve speed and agility IN CLASS, in addition to their weight training, all year long...Does Creek have anything like this???

And, change the uni's...people laugh at them b/c of their colors...Maroon, Gold and Black!!!!!

MANAZE wrote: Wintersville was broke, Mingo had money. Neither was a city so the state stepped in and had an arranged marriage.

That's basically correct. Wheeling Pitt tax base was large at the time; now it has all but vanished.
In respose to your 1st post, there are several items that make up a good program:
1. Backing from the scoolboard.(very important)
2. Non interference from parents and/or boosters. ( very important)
3. An up-to-date weight room.
4. A coaching staff, picked by the head coach.( also very important; everybody need to be on the same page)
5. And enough time to develope the program the head coach and staff need to win and attract the kids.(This will grow with winning)
Check off the number of items that Indian creek fails at and there is your answer.
I left off the money part of the equation because I have seen good programs win with a shoestring budget. Pitts. Westinghouse comes to mind under the late great coach Pete Dimperio.
Coaches from all over went to his clinics, including yours truly. He had one paid assistant, played on a dirt field, used no tackling dummies,no game films, only scouted if he could be there in person;( no assistants), yet won 9, 10 games plus playoffs every year.
So, it can be done. But I suspect the right formula has not yet been found at ICHS.
Good Luck with the program.

The future starts in Jr high. That will be where the changes takes place. fundamentals over and over and over and then over it somemore. every player learns at a different pace at that age. Get every player involved, The more that play and have fun at that age the more that will play when they are older. The highschool coach needs invovled at jr high also,run the same plays ,just a little more basic. Make it fun make it competitive for them at their age and they will reward you later. Right now the jr high is worried more about wins and loses than it is to get them all envolved and to be proud. When done properly the wins will come. All these kids have friends and when you hurt just a few from being slighted or belittled,they will not go out for football ever. One of the most mistakes i see personally is, trying to make the players fit into the coaches plans instead of coaching into the players talents.{im running the option this year when a power I team would fit the players better } for example. I am not from IC but I would love to see them get back to the glory days of old. Just my two cents good luck next year

I agree with a lot of this stuff, but the stuff about changing the colors, renaming the stadium, and blah blah blah has nothing to do with a good football program. Steubenville didn't become a successful football program over night and nether will Creek. A lot of people forget that Creek has only been a school for what? 14 years? These things take time. Creek improved a lot, 2 -8 to 6 - 4 is a great turnaround.

Some good points. One thing that IC lacks when compared to most other schools in the B8 and the area is a sense of identity and history. Somehow it seems that BL has gotten beyond that and possibly because it is a second consolidation of consolidated schools...they had already lost their identity. But look at the other schools, Martins Ferry and Bellaire, both with storied pasts, St. C - a school that his had a solid football program forever, even Union Local. Then you have Steubenville and SCC next door.

ICHS history and tradition in football consist of a few good years in the '90's and a bunch of bitter people from two towns. So, you could wipe off the name Kettlewell from the stadium and take on some new colors, but that will only set the school back further. Absolutely no history and no identity.

Instead, the past should be celebrated. As I've said at least a dozen times, bring back the old gold, yes - including the old gold helmets. Use the real Mingo red. Continue to call it Kettlewell Stadium and build a new fieldhouse and name it after someone who made the Mingo program great. The concrete section of that stadium would never have been built if not for the overflow crowds of the 1960's, which were only the result of Kettlewell coached teams. It may not be the best facility in the valley, but it is still a pretty nice place and is much better than it was 20-30 years ago.

Finally, teach the kids about their history, not just ICHS going back to 1993, but go back to 1936-1992 with Wintersville and whenever up to the consolidation for Mingo. Let them know that there were MANY GREAT athletes who went through those two programs, and that they are a continuation of them and the current ICHS tradition.

If you have followed Indian Creek football for any time at all, you would think there was a new head coach this past season. The total approach to the game has changed. The players are in better shape and the offensive and defensive strategies have changed.

The name of the stadium has nothing to do with how well a team plays. I doubt that very many students know who Kettlewell was anyway.

Updating the locker rooms is something that would be a huge benefit, but by itself would not help the team play better.

The uniforms have no effect on winning or losing.

Changes have been made with the assistant coaches already. Maybe more need to be made, but we should leave that to the head coach.

Updating the football field will not help the quality of play, but improvements will happen if the team consistently wins.

Eliminating class time for players is definitely the wrong direction. These are STUDENT athletes.

The weight room could use improvement, but the important thing is that the players work out. A state of the art weight room would not help if no one used it.

Manaze, I have watched as you spout your bitterness about the Indian Creek schools. While I found your fiction entertaining, I find your venomous hatred of Indian Creek very disturbing. I wish to add my name to the list of ones that invite you to leave the district. You are one of the problems here. I am a transplant into this district. While I do not agree with everything they do, I do agree that a fine education can be obtained at Creek. The quality of education is not determined by the style of the buildings a classroom is in. I have three children, two in college and another in high school. Indian Creek has prepared them well to further their education and venture out into the working world. If you think your children will be better educated in that school to the east, go right ahead and move them now. I am familiar with their education and would never do that to my kids, but you are entitled to your opinion and your children will have to live with it.

goldenwarrior wrote: Some good points. One thing that IC lacks when compared to most other schools in the B8 and the area is a sense of identity and history. Somehow it seems that BL has gotten beyond that and possibly because it is a second consolidation of consolidated schools...they had already lost their identity. But look at the other schools, Martins Ferry and Bellaire, both with storied pasts, St. C - a school that his had a solid football program forever, even Union Local. Then you have Steubenville and SCC next door.

ICHS history and tradition in football consist of a few good years in the '90's and a bunch of bitter people from two towns. So, you could wipe off the name Kettlewell from the stadium and take on some new colors, but that will only set the school back further. Absolutely no history and no identity.

Instead, the past should be celebrated. As I've said at least a dozen times, bring back the old gold, yes - including the old gold helmets. Use the real Mingo red. Continue to call it Kettlewell Stadium and build a new fieldhouse and name it after someone who made the Mingo program great. The concrete section of that stadium would never have been built if not for the overflow crowds of the 1960's, which were only the result of Kettlewell coached teams. It may not be the best facility in the valley, but it is still a pretty nice place and is much better than it was 20-30 years ago.

Finally, teach the kids about their history, not just ICHS going back to 1993, but go back to 1936-1992 with Wintersville and whenever up to the consolidation for Mingo. Let them know that there were MANY GREAT athletes who went through those two programs, and that they are a continuation of them and the current ICHS tradition.

I really like your idea of teaching the history of the schools involved in the consolidation. The pride was lost in the consolidation. About a year ago I was in a school that had consolidated several years ago. They had class pictures displayed in the halls of all the graduating classes of every school that was involved in the consolidation. This was a very impressive display, and showed their pride in their heritage. They also had old athletic trophies from years before the consolidation.

BuckCreek wrote:

goldenwarrior wrote: Some good points. One thing that IC lacks when compared to most other schools in the B8 and the area is a sense of identity and history. Somehow it seems that BL has gotten beyond that and possibly because it is a second consolidation of consolidated schools...they had already lost their identity. But look at the other schools, Martins Ferry and Bellaire, both with storied pasts, St. C - a school that his had a solid football program forever, even Union Local. Then you have Steubenville and SCC next door.

ICHS history and tradition in football consist of a few good years in the '90's and a bunch of bitter people from two towns. So, you could wipe off the name Kettlewell from the stadium and take on some new colors, but that will only set the school back further. Absolutely no history and no identity.

Instead, the past should be celebrated. As I've said at least a dozen times, bring back the old gold, yes - including the old gold helmets. Use the real Mingo red. Continue to call it Kettlewell Stadium and build a new fieldhouse and name it after someone who made the Mingo program great. The concrete section of that stadium would never have been built if not for the overflow crowds of the 1960's, which were only the result of Kettlewell coached teams. It may not be the best facility in the valley, but it is still a pretty nice place and is much better than it was 20-30 years ago.

Finally, teach the kids about their history, not just ICHS going back to 1993, but go back to 1936-1992 with Wintersville and whenever up to the consolidation for Mingo. Let them know that there were MANY GREAT athletes who went through those two programs, and that they are a continuation of them and the current ICHS tradition.

I really like your idea of teaching the history of the schools involved in the consolidation. The pride was lost in the consolidation. About a year ago I was in a school that had consolidated several years ago. They had class pictures displayed in the halls of all the graduating classes of every school that was involved in the consolidation. This was a very impressive display, and showed their pride in their heritage. They also had old athletic trophies from years before the consolidation.

Now that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. It's an insult to those who won those trophies to just lock them away. I really liked the concept of Legacy Night they started. That's a step in the right direction.

I brought up a question in the previous thread but never got an answer. Before you can talk about turning Creek's program around, you have to decide what Creek's real objectives are. If you are just talking about winning the Buckeye 8 and getting into the playoffs, then I think the current head coach and staff are capable of doing that within the next year or two. But if you want a program modeled after Big Red, then you are going to have to make some serious changes. The first thing is to find a coach with the magic touch like Reno has. He knows the X's and O's, he knows how to motivate the kids and to keep them on the team and how to get them to work very hard, he knows how to deal with parents and administrators, and he knows how to do a lot of things that I don't know about. I don't think Connors is the coach to bring about these changes. Another thing about a program like Big Red's is that Reno has been able to pick a great set of assistant coaches and they stay on forever. Every one of them could get a head coaching job if he wanted it, but the grass is not greener on the other side of the fence. They have more job security where they are than if they moved. The same cannot be said about Creek's assistants.

Scheduling Big Red was a huge step in the right direction for Creek. Every year Creek has played a better game against the Red. Dropping Big Red was a big mistake. Next year's schedule does not have one team on it that will prepare Creek for the playoffs. Even if Creek makes the playoffs, they will be one and done just like Ferry, Harrison, and Buckeye this year.

I wish Creek the very best and I hope changes can be made so that Creek becomes competitive.

I still have kids that go to Hills. Manaze do ever one a favor and send your kids to wherever you want. Indian Creek has made improvements and I for one am behind what they are trying to do. I like Coach Connor and his assistants. I think thay made so improvements that will help the program. Indian Creek is a tough place. There is a lack of tradition because if you try and bring up the past, some see it as opening up old wounds. I loved Mingo but it is gone. Your reasons for the most part just so you are bitter and you probably are one of those guys who nevered played a down of football. You probably think coaches show up and just call plays. I know the players and coaches worked hard to show improvement this year. They represented the district with a great deal of pride. Most people in the district are also tired of some Big Red posters taking their shots at our head coach, staff, kids, and facilities. I for one am glad that other schools have success, that includes Big Red. Why others feel it necessary to tear into Indian Creek amazes me. I know there will be a ton of negative posts taking shots at our coaches, players, fans, school colors, or what ever else people don't like about our district. I can't wait for my boys to get there and play. My boys are not going to be 7 feet tall or weigh 400 pounds like yours Manaze but they will be proud to wear the school colors. Manaze, one last thing, you seem to be well educated in football, school matters and even politics. You should apply to coach, check into being Superintendent, and run for the board. Someone with as many answers as you should also call our President and advise him. I realize one thing from reading these posts and that is 90% of people have no idea what it takes to coach and never appreciate what all coaches do. So I would like to take this opportunity to thank all coaches for what they do and put up with.(especially the well informed like Manaze)

I love how many people defend Creek. Lets see they sold a football field for a dollar. They built a brand new baseball field with a track around it but never have any track events there. They pass a grant to build a new Junior High when the current Jr.High is in better shape then the HS. The HS is a trailer park. They sell a building because it is falling a part but yet it is still standing and being used as office spaces with little repairs done to it. IC wastes tax payers money. Its a fact throught its history the people running it waste money and do nothing to improve the school or its students. There is more made up jobs at IC than there needs to be but yet they continue on this path because no one can change what they do. By the time my kids get to ICHS it probally won't be ICHS it'll be a Jefferson County school with ICHS, Buckeye, and Edison.

I cant say that I disagree with you on that one Manaze.

Give Conner some time.
I'm not dialed into the program but from I've heard this is the first yr he has been able to make necessarry changes while being backed by the admin.
Let's see if he can build off the 6-4 team which was a big improvement over the previous yr.
What is the schedule next yr? Is it true they dropped BR?
Who are some key returnees?

MANAZE wrote: I don't know what cause the other thread to get locked (I have my ideas but not really sure what the main reason was) I figured since it turned "serious" I bring it to the Serious Business forum.

So when do you think Creek will turn it around?

Here is my answer:

1. New Head Coach

"We have a 10-game schedule and we want to play every game hard and we want to play every game to the best of our ability. I think we did that tonight and I'm proud of the kids for it," Indian Creek coach Andrew Connor said. "We just want to play hard, play physical and play to the whistle. I thought we did that in the second half and it is something that we can continue to build upon."

When you play well against another teams 2nd and 3rd squads with some players being as young as freshman you should play harder, more physical and be able to go form snap to whistle because the ICHS boys should have been more football playing exp.

Here is the deal with the coaches. I have said this TIME and TIME again, but it doesn't seem to sink in... The coaching situation before this past year WAS bad. It wasn't for lack of knowledge or coaching ability, it was the fact that TOO MANY people OTHER than the head coach had a hand in the way things were run. The fact is that if a coach didn't "play by their rules" then he was gone. (This happened to Sam Fornsaglio) As a coach that has left his alma matter at CCHS behind to bleed red and gold, and also a man that loves each kid on the team, it takes a lot for him to risk his job and take the team back. After last year, he did just that. Put it all on the line to make Creek a better team and its working. Before knocking on the coaches, give them another year or two... They ARE the right guys for the job.

MANAZE wrote:2. The name of the stadium needs changed. The stadium is named after Robert Kettlewell who never had anything to do with ICHS football. (sad note here, a member of the community offered to build a brand new football field for ICHS if they would name it after his daughter or granddaughter I don't remember wich. The board voted him down. Kettlewells wife was on the board at that time. Another reason why people from Mingo have a hard time respecting anything Wintersville)

I don't believe in changing the name of the stadium. Coach Kettlewell was a prolific man in the area as far as H.S. football goes. He should be honored for his tribute to football. If having nothing to do with IC is why the name should change, then there are a lot of stadiums that should change their name... This isn't and shouldn't be an issue.

MANAZE wrote:3. Update the locker rooms for playoff games. ICHS lockers are out dated. Where there lockers are now the students have to cross a road to play any game. With this they are not allowed to have playoff games. There is plenty of room to relocate the locker rooms.

This also has nothing to do with the success of a team. A lot of schools have to make due with what they have. We have enough to accomplish our goals, new locker rooms doesn't help you catch a pass or make a tackle. If you have paid attention to the levy, it includes a new "field house" for the football team. Most likely it will not be built until the new school is finished as to not upset the people who made this levy happen. Education is and will always be first at Creek.

MANAZE wrote:4. New uniforms. The colors and logo is out dated. Black and Red w/gold would be a nice outfit for our kids to play in. It is no longer about Mingo and Wintersville but looking good while winning.

Our uniforms also have nothing to do with how we play. However, I do agree with you that a black/red/VEGAS GOLD look would be eye pleasing. I like our current logo and hope the hell we don't go to the IC with flames coming off it. I think a black helmet with the current logo outlined in red would be pretty good looking. (I will post a pic later of a uniform I like)

MANAZE wrote:5. Assistant Coaches have been the same now for almost ten years. When a new coached is hired let him bring in his own staff. There might be good coaches on the staff but they are over shadowed by the coaches that have no business coaching.

This IS the staff that Connor wants. The trash was eliminated after last season and the coaches are now where they belong.

MANAZE wrote:6. Hire people that know about football. There was talented players that went through the halls of ICHS and started to coach with the team only to leave because they were not going to be given a chance. Want pride hire someone that had pride in our colors already not blue and gold again.

Look past the coaches and deeper in the politics for this one... That shouldn't be an issue anymore... See answer to question #1.

MANAZE wrote:7. No more CCHS grads allowed to coach at ICHS. I don't know why ICHS hiring board has a crush on CCHS grads but they do and its enough. If they were to good to go through our halls they are to good to work here.

Conor BLEEDS red and gold... He isn't a CCHS man anymore.

MANAZE wrote:8. Update the football field. That field has been the same since it was opened. Same rivets and mud holes as when my grandfather played there.

The Boosters are working on this... I believe they are very close to installing turf at the stadium. However, again politics are the issue. If we put turf in now, how does that look to taxpayers? Some people would think all that school money is being used for turf. Also consider this... The Boosters have to get the schools approval to do things. If the boosters have money, the school wants to dip their hand into it as well. If the boosters want to do something for the team, they better have some money to please the board as well. Here is a thought... Join the boosters and help out, they are always looking for more members. (This is something I would like to do in the near future as well)

MANAZE wrote:9. Allow players to have free time the last period of the day to lift or study play books. Football is a job. If you want to be good at your job you have to work at it. Give these kids the time to work and be good at their job.

School is a job. Football is second to school. If the kids need extra time at the end of the day, schedule a study hall. In the past, teachers have not had an issue with student athletes doing this to finish school work before practice or lift weights.

MANAZE wrote:10. Weight Room. I haven't been in the weight room in probally five years but I doubt it has changed much. At one time it was the metal shop room. Update this with state of the art equipment.

We do have some "newer" equipment... It all comes down to money. If you would like to donate, I am sure they would buy new equipment. Also, we need to USE the weight room and all its new equipment... This past year the room has gotten the use it deserves.

MANAZE wrote:The money is there for these changes to happen. The people that have the money though no longer give to ICHS because they do nothing with the money but waste it any time they get it.

Look at Big Red. Most everything the football team has comes from private donations from alumni and supporters. Unfortunately we don't have that kind of following yet. The school has other uses for what money it has rather than just give it to the football team. even if it were the case, don't you think that the girls volleyball team and basketball team deserve a good bit of that money? They are winning titles and working extremely hard...

MANAZE wrote:11. Hire someone who can handle money. I don't know who they have doing it now but they are not doing a good job of it.

They shouldn't have to "hire" someone for this, someone should volunteer their time to save money.