Confirmed Agnostic. Try again.FatHobbit;478615 wrote:Timothy Mcveigh
And the Waco comparison is such a reach I'm surprised your rotator cuff is still functional.
Confirmed Agnostic. Try again.FatHobbit;478615 wrote:Timothy Mcveigh
fish82;478641 wrote:Confirmed Agnostic. Try again.
And the Waco comparison is such a reach I'm surprised your rotator cuff is still functional.
Confirmed by McVeigh several times over. He cited Waco as an example of government overreach. He never mentioned their religion.FatHobbit;478664 wrote:Confirmed by who? Do you deny that the people in Waco were christian? (Radical maybe, but still christian)
fish82;478673 wrote:Confirmed by McVeigh several times over. He cited Waco as an example of government overreach. He never mentioned their religion.
LMAO. Okay...you run with that. :rolleyes:FatHobbit;478683 wrote:Osama never said he attacked us because of our religion. He did because he wanted us out of his country. I think you could call that "government overreach"
That's one. I can do this all day."Hostility toward America is a religious duty, and we hope to be rewarded for it by God . . . . I am confident that Muslims will be able to end the legend of the so-called superpower that is America. Time Magazine
I'm not exactly sure how they qualify as "Christian," when basically their leader seems to think he is Christ. Kinda apples and oranges if ya ask me, but I don't claim to be an expert on the subject.FatHobbit;478691 wrote:Do you like this one better?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army
fish82;478713 wrote:I'm not exactly sure how they qualify as "Christian," when basically their leader seems to think he is Christ. Kinda apples and oranges if ya ask me, but I don't claim to be an expert on the subject.
FatHobbit;478719 wrote:I'm not saying he is, but if he claims to be Christ and they are following him, how much more delusional can they be?
CenterBHSFan;478747 wrote:More like it!
FatHobbit;478719 wrote:I'm not saying he is, but if he claims to be Christ and they are following him, how much more Christian can they be?
fish82;478763 wrote:I think I heard somewhere that Christians officially follow some other guy, but I could be wrong.
HitsRus;478770 wrote:Are they a worldwide organization? Are they well funded? Do they compose a significant percentage of Christianity? >5%.....errrr greater than 1%?.
Just asking.
If you could quote where I actually said that Christians were never terrorists, that would be awesome. Thanks!FatHobbit;478778 wrote:I didn't really mean to turn this into Christians vs Muslims. I was just responding to fish82's post about christians never being terrorists.
FatHobbit;478768 wrote:not Christ?
+1I Wear Pants;477963 wrote:The Imam never said it would be moved. Rauf said he hasn't spoken with the pastor. The pastor said he spoke with another Imam.
Whoever is willing to kill over the burning of a book is a crazy person. This is correct.
But whoever is willing to riot and scream and get upset over the building of a community center with a religious affiliation is also a crazy person.
Burning holy books is immature, stupid, and mean. Not to mention a waste of money. But none of those things are illegal in our country so we're free to do them even though we shouldn't.
Are we limiting to just the US, because the LRA attacks in the name of Christianity, it's just not in the US.superman;478046 wrote:When was the last terrorist attack in the name of jesus on american soil?
I support his right to protest, yes. But I think there is a difference between the intent of a flag burner and a Koran burner.HitsRus;478081 wrote:How about flags? Burning flags is even more stupid.
as that would be the intent of a flag burning also...Flag burners are not of sound mind.
If you support the right of people to burn flags as a legitimate form of protest, than you must also support the right of people to burn a book in protest, whether that be the Koran or the Bible.
I understand your point, but I do not think building a cultural center and burning a Koran are the same thing. These people building the cultural center are not intentionally trying to insult anyone (I am not saying some people don't view it as an insult, I am saying I don't believe they are trying to insult anyone), the pastor and his minions are intentionally trying to insult Islam. They sell "Islam is evil" items, he wrote a book called Islam is of the Devil and now he is burning their holy books. I believe intent makes a difference. You may feel they are both wrong, but would you agree the intent is different?HitsRus;478228 wrote:...and that has been my point all along in these arguments about the cultural center. It is not about rights, but about the insistence of the assertion of those rights in deference to the sensitivities of your neighbor. Why make a bad situation worse, just because you have the right to do so? That is what really stupid. It is about common sense. It is about being a good neighbor. It's about making an intelligent decision considering the circumstances of the time, and considering alternatives that can make things better instead of worse.
How about the LRA?fish82;478609 wrote:Hit me up the next time those wacky Christians take out 15-2000 people at a time instead of one abortion doctor every 10 years. The "terrorism scene" body count has been dominated by Muslims for the past 20 years. It's not "of late." As of today, 9/10/2010, they are the ones that are causing the problems and they are the ones killing the vast majority of people over religion.
I guess what some call "islamophobia," I merely call "playing the odds."
fish82;478686 wrote:LMAO. Okay...you run with that. :rolleyes:
http://www.usvetdsp.com/osam_qts.htm
That's one. I can do this all day.
So you think there are at least 13,000,000 Muslim terrorists? (1.3 billion Muslims is the low estimate and 13 mil is 1% of that)HitsRus;478770 wrote:Are they a worldwide organization? Are they well funded? Do they compose a significant percentage of Christianity? >5%.....errrr greater than 1%?.
Just asking.
No, but I'll wager any amount you want that there are at least 13 million that strongly support it.I Wear Pants;479298 wrote:So you think there are at least 13,000,000 Muslim terrorists? (1.3 billion Muslims is the low estimate and 13 mil is 1% of that)
I think that number is insanely high.
fish82;479598 wrote:No, but I'll wager any amount you want that there are at least 13 million that strongly support it.
There really isn't anyone on this board with enuff cranial juice to blow my mind...just sayin.Glory Days;479654 wrote:prepare to have your mind blown....
i'll wager there were non muslims who supported it also? now what do we do!?!?!?!
fish82;479781 wrote:There really isn't anyone on this board with enuff cranial juice to blow my mind...just sayin.
How about we take all six of them and just waterbord them for a bit?
fish82;479781 wrote:There really isn't anyone on this board with enuff cranial juice to blow my mind...just sayin.
How about we take all six of them and just waterbord them for a bit?