hammering potential 2012 opponents

http://www.politico.com/static/PPM152_1008013_politicoreport.html

Politico
Margin of error: ±2.4%
Sample size: 1668 August 6–11, 2010
Barack Obama 50% Sarah Palin 33% 17
Barack Obama 42% Mitt Romney 33% 9
Barack Obama 42% Tim Pawlenty 23% 19
Barack Obama 43% Mike Huckabee 35% 8
Barack Obama 43% Haley Barbour 21% 22



http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_National_812.pdf
Public Policy Polling
Margin of error: ±4.0%
Sample size: 606 August 6–9, 2010
Barack Obama 47% Mike Huckabee 44% 3
Barack Obama 49% Sarah Palin 43% 6
Barack Obama 49% Newt Gingrich 42% 7
Barack Obama 47% Chris Christie 31% 16
Barack Obama 45% Mitt Romney 42% 3

Now leads all opponents with independents,lost to everyone last month

Kinda funny when all you hear from conservatives is that his numbers only keep sinking

Why do you keep beating off to these 2012 polls? They are so irrelevant. Imagine a poll in 2006 with Barak Obama listed as a potential presidential candidate. I doubt he would have even made 10%.

majorspark;467722 wrote:Why do you keep beating off to these 2012 polls? They are so irrelevant. Imagine a poll in 2006 with Barak Obama listed as a potential presidential candidate. I doubt he would have even made 10%.

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Polls show liberals ahead = good. Polls show EVIL conservatives ahead = bad, obviously biased.

I've figured it out.

Ty Webb;467620 wrote: Politico
Margin of error: ±2.4%
Sample size: 1668 August 6–11, 2010
Barack Obama 50% Sarah Palin 33% 17
Barack Obama 42% Mitt Romney 33% 9
Barack Obama 42% Tim Pawlenty 23% 19
Barack Obama 43% Mike Huckabee 35% 8
Barack Obama 43% Haley Barbour 21% 22

Public Policy Polling
Margin of error: ±4.0%
Sample size: 606 August 6–9, 2010
Barack Obama 47% Mike Huckabee 44% 3
Barack Obama 49% Sarah Palin 43% 6
Barack Obama 49% Newt Gingrich 42% 7
Barack Obama 47% Chris Christie 31% 16
Barack Obama 45% Mitt Romney 42% 3

Sarah Palin is toast. This poll shows nothing more that the swing voters do not like her at all. Please Palin, remain a rich pundit and stay out of any Presidential race.

This is what those polls said to me:

42% are voting for Obama is the election were tomorrow, and only 33% of people pay attention to Republicans enough to know enough about them to pick them over "undecided." Just look at what those totals add up to, it's not anywhere near 100%.

42% is not a good rating for a President.

majorspark;467722 wrote:Why do you keep beating off to these 2012 polls? They are so irrelevant. Imagine a poll in 2006 with Barak Obama listed as a potential presidential candidate. I doubt he would have even made 10%.

Well put.

majorspark;467722 wrote:Why do you keep beating off to these 2012 polls? They are so irrelevant. Imagine a poll in 2006 with Barak Obama listed as a potential presidential candidate. I doubt he would have even made 10%.

1. At least spell his name right

2.Your statement about him not getting 10% would also be wrong. He was 20%+ in the first poll where he was included in in 2006

Why weren't you bitching about polls when your conservative buddies were pushing polls that showed him behind Romney,Huckabee,and Gingrich??

As for the person who said that I only post polls that are good for him...I've posted them in the past and I will again right now:

Public Policy Polling
Margin of error: ±3.8%
Sample size: 667 July 9–12, 2010
Barack Obama 45% Mike Huckabee 47% 2
Barack Obama 46% Sarah Palin 46% Tied
Barack Obama 45% Newt Gingrich 46% 1
Barack Obama 44% Jan Brewer 36% 8
Barack Obama 43% Mitt Romney 46% 3

In regards to each opponent in both polls,here is how each one changed

Huckabee: Obama +6
Romney: Obama +6
Palin: Obama +6
Gingrich: Obama +8

Things don't like things are getting worse for him(as much as you Repubs and Beck,Hannity,Rush,etc would like them too),it looks like they are getting better

This is what a three way race would look like with Ronmey as the Republican candidate and Ron Paul running as an independent:

Public Policy Polling
Margin of error: ±4.0%
Sample size: 606 August 6–9, 2010
Barack Obama 42% Mitt Romney 36% Ron Paul 13% 6

Ty Webb;467774 wrote:1. At least spell his name right

Usually when one takes minor spelling/grammar errors seriously on an internet forum, I get the sense they have been had. I never once pointed one out myself.

Ty Webb;467774 wrote:2.Your statement about him not getting 10% would also be wrong. He was 20%+ in the first poll where he was included in in 2006

I was only guessing. 10% - 20% what does is matter in an early poll? Both prematurely show his false shellacking.

Ty Webb;467774 wrote:Why weren't you bitching about polls when your conservative buddies were pushing polls that showed him behind Romney,Huckabee,and Gingrich??

Probably for the same reason you don't trumpet them. Polls this far in the future of politics are worthless. For all we know none of those names will even be on the ballot in 2012.

majorspark;467786 wrote:Usually when one takes minor spelling/grammar errors seriously on an internet forum, I get the sense they have been had. I never once pointed one out myself.



I was only guessing. 10% - 20% what does is matter in an early poll? Both prematurely show his false shellacking.



Probably for the same reason you don't trumpet them. Polls this far in the future of politics are worthless. For all we know none of those names will even be on the ballot in 2012.

You keep believing that pal....those are and will be the front runners in 2012...there isn't a big star sneaking up in the Republican Party right now like Obama did

You're nuts if you think 2012 isn't an absolute toss-up, at this point.

Granted, i really hope the R's can find someone better than those you've listed, as i see it very, very likely that the right could win the presidency...but i don't think it is going to be much of an "improvement" if one of those you listed is elected.

Might be slight, but not enough to "right the ship," as it were.

Palin et. al. wouldn't bring any answers, just more rhetoric, which has been my exact problem with Obama.

But, i still think someone else is going to emerge from the right.

i think thats the GOP problem. they dont need somebody else from the right but a more middle of the road candidate.another thing that could work to obamas favor if the GOP does gain in this midterm election and still doesnt accomplish anything it will help him.

Candidate for the Republican is a changing list of individuals but the important aspect of the GOP Presidential is the combo ticket... President and Vice President
The GOP will have to demonstrate that both are Presidential material. The VP can not be just a talking head but a serious contender for the next presidential position.
The worthless polls list some of the expected favorites. What about others like Lindsey Graham, Jan Brewer, David Petraeus, Jed Bush (bad timing), Rud Giuliani and I'm sure other will be coming to the surface after the November elections.

I could see a potential for Jan Brewer VP …..

To early now to predict a Presidential candidate the more important November election will tell the real trouble the parties have….

The Hillary Clinton will divide the Democrat Party .... I look for her to run for the President. One good thing about Democrats they throw each other under the bus…

Lindsay Graham? GTFO. A liberal in conservative clothing. Him and McCain are the problems with the Republican party

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Ty Webb;467620 wrote:hammering potential 2012 opponents

http://www.politico.com/static/PPM152_1008013_politicoreport.html

Politico
Margin of error: ±2.4%
Sample size: 1668 August 6–11, 2010
Barack Obama 50% Sarah Palin 33% 17
Barack Obama 42% Mitt Romney 33% 9
Barack Obama 42% Tim Pawlenty 23% 19
Barack Obama 43% Mike Huckabee 35% 8
Barack Obama 43% Haley Barbour 21% 22



http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_National_812.pdf
Public Policy Polling
Margin of error: ±4.0%
Sample size: 606 August 6–9, 2010
Barack Obama 47% Mike Huckabee 44% 3
Barack Obama 49% Sarah Palin 43% 6
Barack Obama 49% Newt Gingrich 42% 7
Barack Obama 47% Chris Christie 31% 16
Barack Obama 45% Mitt Romney 42% 3

Now leads all opponents with independents,lost to everyone last month

Kinda funny when all you hear from conservatives is that his numbers only keep sinking

Two very well known, experienced and credible polls there. Well done, Ty!

Gibby is awesome!!!111!!one!!11

Two things.
1 It's still 2010. Polls this early are meaningless.
2. The second poll, Public Policy polls, the Margin of Error is +/- 4%, that means Obama could be tied with a few of those candidates, so it is not as cut and dry as the OP thinks.

sjmvsfscs08;467747 wrote:Sarah Palin is toast.

While not presidential material in my mind, she is not toast; the tea party candidate she backed just knocked off another incumbent in Alaska yesterday.

QuakerOats;467924 wrote:While not presidential material in my mind, she is not toast; the tea party candidate she backed just knocked off another incumbent in Alaska yesterday.

We have 49 states for all most people are concerned. Alaska could start their own militia and try to attack us and we wouldn't realize it. You have to convince 12 people to vote for you to win an election in Alaska.

All I see is an R party thoughly controlled by the Far Right extremists and a primary Presidential system set up to favor the conservatives in the party. That will produce an extreme Far Right candidate who wins the nomination. Despite all the political BS being spit out, I can't see the Independents ,who will determine the election, going with an extremist ( and his/her ideas that will reflect extremists views). Obama will be extremely tough to beat. Maybe impossible.

Is that why independents in Ohio prefer W over Obama?

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/08/previewing-ohio.html

It can't be overstated how much goodwill O has pissed away since his inauguration.

Paladin;468101 wrote: Despite all the political BS being spit out, I can't see the Independents ,who will determine the election, going with an extremist ( and his/her ideas that will reflect extremists views). Obama will be extremely tough to beat. Maybe impossible.

The independents went with a radical "extremist" when they voted for obama; they are now realizing this which is why they are lining up droves to support true conservatives. Not sure what you are missing.

I'd like to know what truly constitutes an extremest when it comes to politics in the U.S..

lining up in droves??? where in the south???

Obama's biggest problem is himself. After running on hope and change the only change was how far and fast he could run to the extreme left after being elected. And how far and fast he has driven the nation into debt. Huge government, control as much as possible, huge welfare state, re-distro of wealth, tax and spend, etc etc etc. The only hope we have will be for a 4 yr BO presidency and not 8 yr.

BO re-elected = the death of a nation!
[sarcasm] But hey as long as Michelle is proud for the first time in her life the death of the USA is a small price to pay right!?!? [/sarcasm]

I'm going out to see if I can find all of those moderate and liberal people who have seen the light and are "lining up in droves to vote for "true Conservatives". are you people kidding or is this a serious comment about what you really think is going on, because if it is, you folks are slightly off center.