If 9-11 never happened, what would be the signature moment of this generation?

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Jul 24, 2010 3:12 PM
gibby08;431419 wrote:Some of you are so ignorant that I;m not even going to bother with this thread anymore.....

Michael Jackson's death is at least a top ten story of this generation,and anyone who doesn't believe that I fell sorry for

Kurt Cobain's death was a bigger story than Michael's, and neither are anywhere close to the top ten stories of this generation.

Face it, MJ made good music, but was a horrible person.
Jul 24, 2010 3:12pm
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Jul 24, 2010 3:31 PM
gibby08;431450 wrote:You people can't be this fucking ignorant

i suggest you take some time off from the internet, spend some time on yourself, grow up a little bit, then come back.
Jul 24, 2010 3:31pm
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Jul 24, 2010 3:47 PM
LJ;431550 wrote:i suggest you take some time off from the internet, spend some time on yourself, grow up a little bit, then don't come back.

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Jul 24, 2010 3:47pm
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Jul 24, 2010 8:54 PM
gibby08;429632 wrote:No one,and I mean no one's death has totally made the world STOP like MJ

Princess Di's death possibly topped it
Jul 24, 2010 8:54pm
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Jul 25, 2010 3:38 AM
I agree with both of these. I'm 22, so while a lot of shit has happened in my "generation" I was too young to really remember or appreciate the significance of a lot of it. Some of the events that stand out:
-9/11
-Princess Di
-OKC
-Columbine
-OJ
-Obama
-Virginia Tech

I also agree with the post that said Columbine may have had the biggest personal effect. I went to a white, middle-to-upper-middle class school and I thought the same things. I would tie Virginia Tech in there as well. I was a freshman at Ohio State and I can remember plain as day sitting in a 500+ student classroom when the news was breaking in the very early afternoon, thinking to myself, "How easy would it be for someone to walk into this classroom and pick off about 50 of us?" It certainly made things more real. The rest of the quarter, all of the courtyards were only student ID access after 7pm or so.

I would consider MJ's death a big event, but certainly not a signature event. All the other things I listed certainly changed my perspective on my world as well as the world surrounding me. All I(as well as all my friends) did when MJ died was share a few good natured jokes that were circulating via text or Facebook, throw on an MJ playlist, and get fucked up.

Laley23;430293 wrote:Probably very true.

In that case, our timeframe for "this" generation is probably way to long. It should be split into 2 generations. 25 and under and 26 and older....
bigkahuna;430569 wrote:Like someone else said, I consider a defining moment as something that I can remember instantly what I was doing when it happened. I was born in 86, so bear with me.

A. Berlin Wall fell in 1989-I was 3. Don't remember it, so I can't include it for myself, however, it tops the list.
In no particular order

1.OJ Trial-I was in 4th Grade helping out the secretary in the office. The tv was on, and the principal, secretary, and 2 play ground aids were eating their lunch watching the verdict. I went back to the class, and the teacher let me interrupt class and make the announcement. Later, the secretary came on and said "Staff and Students, Not Guilty." I went home and my older cousin (In High School) said that the every class room had the feed on their tvs watching. Kind of dumb, but it took the country over.

2. Princess Diana's Death-Getting ready for church Sunday Morning. I woke up at 4am later in the week to watch the funeral. "Candle In the Wind" that's all I'm saying.

3. Death of Pope John Paul II-Just came back from class Freshmen Year in college. Everyone was watching in my dorm room because I had the biggest tv

4.Columbine Shooting- 8th Grade was getting ready to start. The entire scope of school security changed after that. Nothing like this had ever happened before. Now, you see the weird kid walking down the hall with a trench coat and think "When is the day he's gonna do it?" For me this had the biggest impact because school completely changed. Doors were locked during the day, and you had Lock Down Drills.....

5. Obama's win-Not going to say anything; it just happened 2 years ago.

I gave 2 people that have died during my life and neither one was Michael Jackson. I can remember Princess Diana in 97 and the Pope in 05, but not the day Jackson died in 09. Also, put Mother Theresa before him as well. How bout Tupac in 96? Hell, I can remember that better than MJ

Also, just to throw these out there. They may be more for people in the area, but what about the L.A. Riots and Cincinnati Riot?
Jul 25, 2010 3:38am
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Jul 25, 2010 3:48 AM
Another one that for whatever reason sticks out is the JonBenet murder and the entire media circus that surrounded it. I'm certainly not saying it was a signature moment whatsoever and I really don't think it changed the world in a significant way(if at all), but if I had to name a bunch of events that stood out to me about my lifetime, it wouldn't be THAT far down the list.
Jul 25, 2010 3:48am
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Jul 25, 2010 4:33 AM
If it wasn't for the MJ point, this thread may be the most interesting and thought provoking thread ever posted on OC. Are we talking about the signature American moment of this generation, or the signature moment in the world since 1980? Because if we are talking the world, the end of the Cold War may be bigger than 9/11. Sure the terrorist attack affects America in a serious way, but it's less significant outside of the US than the end of the Cold War. Nobody questioned the end of the world, nuclear genocide, and possible WW3 across the world after 9/11 as much. I was born in 87' so I'm not as experienced first hand as many other posters, but the worldwide sigh of relief is hard to top. This is of course my humble opinion, but it just seems to me that the Cold War affected more people.

A few other to ponder: (No particular order)
Widespread AIDS around the world, especially in Africa
SARS, Bird flu, West Nile Virus
Darfur awareness
ENRON, TYCO, Worldcom scandals
Mars exploration
Hubble Telescope
Jul 25, 2010 4:33am
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Jul 25, 2010 9:33 AM
Columbine would be in my top 3. I remember all the safety precautions after that we had to do at school. Mock shootings, no backpacks in the classrooms, etc..
Jul 25, 2010 9:33am
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Jul 25, 2010 12:13 PM
I still can't believe no one else has mentioned the 2000 Election...it changed the course of history for our country
Jul 25, 2010 12:13pm
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Jul 25, 2010 12:17 PM
gibby08;431944 wrote:I still can't believe no one else has mentioned the 2000 Election...it changed the course of history for our country

Would you mind filling us in?
Jul 25, 2010 12:17pm
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Jul 25, 2010 12:22 PM
gibby08;431944 wrote:I still can't believe no one else has mentioned the 2000 Election...it changed the course of history for our country

EVERY election changes the course of history for our country.
Jul 25, 2010 12:22pm
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Jul 25, 2010 12:26 PM
That one more so than any in history
Jul 25, 2010 12:26pm
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Jul 25, 2010 12:26 PM
Art Modell;431945 wrote:Would you mind filling us in?

If you don't understand why...then you are dumber than I thought
Jul 25, 2010 12:26pm
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Jul 25, 2010 12:33 PM
gibby08;431951 wrote:That one more so than any in history
I'm not a even a Republican and that statement is more ridiculous than all of the Michael Jackson shit combined. Your lack of historical intelligence amazes me.
Jul 25, 2010 12:33pm
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Jul 25, 2010 12:36 PM
gibby08;431951 wrote:That one more so than any in history

I would say the Lincoln election changed the course of history more than 2000.
Jul 25, 2010 12:36pm
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Jul 25, 2010 12:37 PM
Oh really...

-Iraq War
-His mismanagement and destruction of the United States economy
-His mismanagement of Hurricane Katrina

Would you like me to keep going
Jul 25, 2010 12:37pm
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Jul 25, 2010 12:40 PM
gibby08;431951 wrote:That one more so than any in history

yeah and obama was the greatest election in the history of the US right? lol
Jul 25, 2010 12:40pm
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Jul 25, 2010 12:41 PM
From a historical standpoint....yes
Jul 25, 2010 12:41pm
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Jul 25, 2010 12:41 PM
gibby08;431961 wrote:Oh really...

-Iraq War
-His mismanagement and destruction of the United States economy
-His mismanagement of Hurricane Katrina

Would you like me to keep going

The Lincoln election and the eventual civil war will go down in history as much bigger events than anything resulting from the Bush election.
Jul 25, 2010 12:41pm
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Jul 25, 2010 12:43 PM
Fifty years from now Bush will be viewed as a very average president, neither bad nor great.
Jul 25, 2010 12:43pm
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Jul 25, 2010 12:44 PM
Al Bundy;431970 wrote:The Lincoln election and the eventual civil war will go down in history as much bigger events than anything resulting from the Bush election.

Ok

Before he was elected....we knew a civil war was coming.

We didn't know ANYTHING Bush did was coming
Jul 25, 2010 12:44pm
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Jul 25, 2010 12:45 PM
gibby08;431961 wrote:Oh really...


-His mismanagement of Hurricane Katrina

Would you like me to keep going

an entire government was telling these people weeks in advance that a gigantic hurricane was coming and that it could possibly destroy the area. They chose to listen to those warnings and ignore them. What happened next you obviously know...those dumbasses stayed and got destroyed by katrina. Why the hell would they expect us to just drop everything and help them out? It's like me telling you weeks in advance, "hey man don't eat that cheeseburger at your birthday party, it's spoiled and you will get really sick" and you eat it anyway. Of course I'm going to want to help you, but i'm not going to feel sorry for you nor am i going to rush to help you...the katrina victims were just arrogant and retarded, not destroyed by a tragedy
Jul 25, 2010 12:45pm
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Jul 25, 2010 12:46 PM
gibby08;431969 wrote:From a historical standpoint....yes

why becuase he is black? whoopity fucking doo...it was a bleep on the presidential radar as far as important elections
Jul 25, 2010 12:46pm
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Jul 25, 2010 12:47 PM
I was refering to his terrible decision making and leadership after the storm hit....and no one can dispute that
Jul 25, 2010 12:47pm
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Jul 25, 2010 12:47 PM
gibby08;431975 wrote:Ok

Before he was elected....we knew a civil war was coming.

We didn't know ANYTHING Bush did was coming

Not true. If he wasn't elected, the states may not have left the union.
Jul 25, 2010 12:47pm