Heres one he won't get out of either. Talk about extreme nuts --

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-wilson/rand-paul-keynoted-2009-r_b_584273.html

LOL, there is absolutely zero wrong with that article. We aren't allowed to criticize Obama anymore? Is that what you want?

How about the horrible ideas your dems stick-up for? Healthcare takeover, more power to the Fed with the new financial regs, cap and tax, increased deficit spending. Those idea are MUCH more toxic than anything Rand Paul has said and will say.

Paladin wrote: Here's your boy Rand. Good Luck

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/21/rand-paul-obama-sounds-un_n_584661.html

Oh yeah, his words are just terrible!

"What I don't like from the president's administration is this sort of 'I'll put my boot heel on the throat of BP.' I think that sounds really un-American in his criticism of business," he said. "I've heard nothing from BP about not paying for the spill. And I think it's part of this sort of blame game society in the sense that it's always got to be someone's fault instead of the fact that sometimes accidents happen."

Two baby seals and 10 trees died after reading those words.

I'll take Ron Paul over Rand Paul any day of the week.

Paladin wrote: Paul as a Libertarian believes that the Feds have no role in ANY dealings with business. The "market" will "correct" any problems. Thus , the Civil Rights Act is just the opening act. Wait till he is pressed on other issues as he wants to ( and has said) that the FDA should go ( safe food & drugs), Dept of agriculture ( in a tobacco state), eliminate laws for coal mine companies ( wait till the miners in E. Ky. hear this one), etc. His ideology will kill him with large groups of people. And the Lousiville Courier has its transcripts of their interview of him for the primary. He failed miserably and as they noted, he is far outside the mainstream of politics, even for Ky. and people will find his extremists views appalling. He was NOT endorsed in the GOP race nor will he be in the general election. And there is an extensive record with the radio "flake" Alex Jones , in which the record will soon be exposed. All politics are local and Paul is stepping on many toes.

Libertarians believe that everything comes with a price. Libertarians like to live within their means. Libertarians do not want things given to them for nothing. Libertarians cannot grasp the idea of just "printing money" out of thin air to expand wealth.

Libertarians have no problem with government expenditures if they truly help society and the people pay for it with cash, and not deferred taxes to future generations.

Libertarians also believe in a strong defense.,,but a defense program that involves fiscal sanity...and one that is limited to defense...and not offense.

I personally take exception to their thinking that unbridled capitalism is the solution to what ailis all America. In fact, their denouncement of the private banking industry is a tad hypocritical IMO. But that's a subject for a different thread.

Footwedge wrote:

Paladin wrote: Paul as a Libertarian believes that the Feds have no role in ANY dealings with business. The "market" will "correct" any problems. Thus , the Civil Rights Act is just the opening act. Wait till he is pressed on other issues as he wants to ( and has said) that the FDA should go ( safe food & drugs), Dept of agriculture ( in a tobacco state), eliminate laws for coal mine companies ( wait till the miners in E. Ky. hear this one), etc. His ideology will kill him with large groups of people. And the Lousiville Courier has its transcripts of their interview of him for the primary. He failed miserably and as they noted, he is far outside the mainstream of politics, even for Ky. and people will find his extremists views appalling. He was NOT endorsed in the GOP race nor will he be in the general election. And there is an extensive record with the radio "flake" Alex Jones , in which the record will soon be exposed. All politics are local and Paul is stepping on many toes.

Libertarians believe that everything comes with a price. Libertarians like to live within their means. Libertarians do not want things given to them for nothing. Libertarians cannot grasp the idea of just "printing money" out of thin air to expand wealth.

Libertarians have no problem with government expenditures if they truly help society and the people pay for it with cash, and not deferred taxes to future generations.

Libertarians also believe in a strong defense.,,but a defense program that involves fiscal sanity...and one that is limited to defense...and not offense.

I personally take exception to their thinking that unbridled capitalism is the solution to what ailis all America. In fact, their denouncement of the private banking industry is a tad hypocritical IMO. But that's a subject for a different thread.

I personally don't blame the banking system as a Libertarian (me and my friends call ourselves Democratic Republicans like Jefferson). I blame the government for being involved in the banking system since 1913. Banks, in the history of the world and the US, have been sanctioned by governments and governments have had their hands in banks for a long time. It's only natural there would be corruption where there's intervention.[/b]

zhon44622 wrote:

believer wrote:

Thread Bomber wrote: I find it amusing that he wants to represent one of the largest welfare per capita states as a Libertarian.

Explains why the state is so heavily D right Paladin?

Take a close look at per capita welfare states and how they tend to vote then try and make your case.......

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/04/11/welfare-states/

no comment deceiver?

zhon44622 wrote:no comment deceiver?

clever

As a business owner I have the right to choose who I want to do business with. I have the right to provide my employee with a fair wage and working conditions to be able to do the best job possible. Good employees are hard to find and a smart business person understand the value of employee. Customer on the other hand I will provide the product and service but pain in the ass customer, poor paying customer or un-ethic business practice by the customer and .....NO SOUP FOR YOU

I set my standards for my companies and those standard, rules and guidline are to be followed by the customer....I don't lower my standard for anyone.....

I can think of three firms I don't sell to and will never sell to, I also have two vendor that can kiss my ass that will never get my business. That does make me a racist it just good business practice to weed out the problem employee and or customer to better sever the good and dedicated customers and employees.

bigmanbt wrote:

Footwedge wrote:

Paladin wrote: Paul as a Libertarian believes that the Feds have no role in ANY dealings with business. The "market" will "correct" any problems. Thus , the Civil Rights Act is just the opening act. Wait till he is pressed on other issues as he wants to ( and has said) that the FDA should go ( safe food & drugs), Dept of agriculture ( in a tobacco state), eliminate laws for coal mine companies ( wait till the miners in E. Ky. hear this one), etc. His ideology will kill him with large groups of people. And the Lousiville Courier has its transcripts of their interview of him for the primary. He failed miserably and as they noted, he is far outside the mainstream of politics, even for Ky. and people will find his extremists views appalling. He was NOT endorsed in the GOP race nor will he be in the general election. And there is an extensive record with the radio "flake" Alex Jones , in which the record will soon be exposed. All politics are local and Paul is stepping on many toes.

Libertarians believe that everything comes with a price. Libertarians like to live within their means. Libertarians do not want things given to them for nothing. Libertarians cannot grasp the idea of just "printing money" out of thin air to expand wealth.

Libertarians have no problem with government expenditures if they truly help society and the people pay for it with cash, and not deferred taxes to future generations.

Libertarians also believe in a strong defense.,,but a defense program that involves fiscal sanity...and one that is limited to defense...and not offense.

I personally take exception to their thinking that unbridled capitalism is the solution to what ailis all America. In fact, their denouncement of the private banking industry is a tad hypocritical IMO. But that's a subject for a different thread.

I personally don't blame the banking system as a Libertarian (me and my friends call ourselves Democratic Republicans like Jefferson). I blame the government for being involved in the banking system since 1913. Banks, in the history of the world and the US, have been sanctioned by governments and governments have had their hands in banks for a long time. It's only natural there would be corruption where there's intervention.[/b]

The less government oversight of the banking insudtry, the more corruption and destruction of our free market banking system occurred.

Footwedge wrote:

bigmanbt wrote:

Footwedge wrote:

Paladin wrote: Paul as a Libertarian believes that the Feds have no role in ANY dealings with business. The "market" will "correct" any problems. Thus , the Civil Rights Act is just the opening act. Wait till he is pressed on other issues as he wants to ( and has said) that the FDA should go ( safe food & drugs), Dept of agriculture ( in a tobacco state), eliminate laws for coal mine companies ( wait till the miners in E. Ky. hear this one), etc. His ideology will kill him with large groups of people. And the Lousiville Courier has its transcripts of their interview of him for the primary. He failed miserably and as they noted, he is far outside the mainstream of politics, even for Ky. and people will find his extremists views appalling. He was NOT endorsed in the GOP race nor will he be in the general election. And there is an extensive record with the radio "flake" Alex Jones , in which the record will soon be exposed. All politics are local and Paul is stepping on many toes.

Libertarians believe that everything comes with a price. Libertarians like to live within their means. Libertarians do not want things given to them for nothing. Libertarians cannot grasp the idea of just "printing money" out of thin air to expand wealth.

Libertarians have no problem with government expenditures if they truly help society and the people pay for it with cash, and not deferred taxes to future generations.

Libertarians also believe in a strong defense.,,but a defense program that involves fiscal sanity...and one that is limited to defense...and not offense.

I personally take exception to their thinking that unbridled capitalism is the solution to what ailis all America. In fact, their denouncement of the private banking industry is a tad hypocritical IMO. But that's a subject for a different thread.

I personally don't blame the banking system as a Libertarian (me and my friends call ourselves Democratic Republicans like Jefferson). I blame the government for being involved in the banking system since 1913. Banks, in the history of the world and the US, have been sanctioned by governments and governments have had their hands in banks for a long time. It's only natural there would be corruption where there's intervention.[/b]

The less government oversight of the banking insudtry, the more corruption and destruction of our free market banking system occurred.

I disagree. You rarely heard of banking troubles pre Federal Reserve. Get rid of the Fed, get back to Austrian economics and America prospers. Also need to raise the amount of reserves needed on hand, I personally think 10% is far too little.

Edit: let me also say, I am not a true laissez faire Libertarian. I realize the need for good, honest regulations that promote competition. But the financial reforms being proposed today will have little effect and will only make the business people find other ways around them. Booms and major busts in our future, thanks to the Federal Reserve.

bigmanbt wrote:

Footwedge wrote:

bigmanbt wrote:

Footwedge wrote:

Paladin wrote: Paul as a Libertarian believes that the Feds have no role in ANY dealings with business. The "market" will "correct" any problems. Thus , the Civil Rights Act is just the opening act. Wait till he is pressed on other issues as he wants to ( and has said) that the FDA should go ( safe food & drugs), Dept of agriculture ( in a tobacco state), eliminate laws for coal mine companies ( wait till the miners in E. Ky. hear this one), etc. His ideology will kill him with large groups of people. And the Lousiville Courier has its transcripts of their interview of him for the primary. He failed miserably and as they noted, he is far outside the mainstream of politics, even for Ky. and people will find his extremists views appalling. He was NOT endorsed in the GOP race nor will he be in the general election. And there is an extensive record with the radio "flake" Alex Jones , in which the record will soon be exposed. All politics are local and Paul is stepping on many toes.

Libertarians believe that everything comes with a price. Libertarians like to live within their means. Libertarians do not want things given to them for nothing. Libertarians cannot grasp the idea of just "printing money" out of thin air to expand wealth.

Libertarians have no problem with government expenditures if they truly help society and the people pay for it with cash, and not deferred taxes to future generations.

Libertarians also believe in a strong defense.,,but a defense program that involves fiscal sanity...and one that is limited to defense...and not offense.

I personally take exception to their thinking that unbridled capitalism is the solution to what ailis all America. In fact, their denouncement of the private banking industry is a tad hypocritical IMO. But that's a subject for a different thread.

I personally don't blame the banking system as a Libertarian (me and my friends call ourselves Democratic Republicans like Jefferson). I blame the government for being involved in the banking system since 1913. Banks, in the history of the world and the US, have been sanctioned by governments and governments have had their hands in banks for a long time. It's only natural there would be corruption where there's intervention.[/b]

The less government oversight of the banking insudtry, the more corruption and destruction of our free market banking system occurred.

I disagree. You rarely heard of banking troubles pre Federal Reserve. Get rid of the Fed, get back to Austrian economics and America prospers. Also need to raise the amount of reserves needed on hand, I personally think 10% is far too little.

Edit: let me also say, I am not a true laissez faire Libertarian. I realize the need for good, honest regulations that promote competition. But the financial reforms being proposed today will have little effect and will only make the business people find other ways around them. Booms and major busts in our future, thanks to the Federal Reserve.

First, the banking industry's cartel started long before the Federal Reserve came into being. And secondly...you have to ask yourself this....who exactly is the Federal Reserve? We both know that the FED is not a government entity, right? Calling it the "Fed" is a huge misnomer. But the real point I'm making here is that the FED is nothing more than a collection of private banks....defining the evils of oligopolies to a T.

No, we can be a free, capitalist society...and it would function a lot better with proper oversight...thus helping the confidence of the American people.

The illegal counterfeiting of the Fed is nothing more than the private bank cartel ensuring that there will be ample "cash" in circulation paying them back for their interest rates.

Put another way. Whrn the FED* (see above) "loans" money out, the cash is "created" through the printing press. But the future accrued interest charges are not printed. This very concept by mathematical laws help create the liquidity problems permeated throughout the macro monetary system.

The bottom line....bankers "create" IOU's which cannot be paid back per terms of their contracts.

The cherade continues until the cherade continues.

Footwedge wrote:...you have to ask yourself this....who exactly is the Federal Reserve? We both know that the FED is not a government entity, right? Calling it the "Fed" is a huge misnomer.

You're absolutely correct except that it's not necessarily a misnomer.

It's a quasi-governmental entity in that its governors and head are appointed by the POTUS pending approval by the United States Senate.

So we have private bankers appointed by the Federal government.

In this case you have private greed in bed with public incompetence. A nasty hybrid representing the worst of both worlds.

Rand Paul is no racisit. I would classify Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, David Duke, Robert Byrd all racists over Rand Paul.

dwccrew wrote: Rand Paul is no racisit. I would classify Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, David Duke, Robert Byrd all racists over Rand Paul.

That makes you a racist, sir!

CenterBHSFan wrote:

dwccrew wrote: Rand Paul is no racisit. I would classify Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, David Duke, Robert Byrd all racists over Rand Paul.

That makes you a racist, sir!

I'm confused here.

Footwedge wrote:

CenterBHSFan wrote:

dwccrew wrote: Rand Paul is no racisit. I would classify Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, David Duke, Robert Byrd all racists over Rand Paul.

That makes you a racist, sir!

I'm confused here.

It was a joke

CenterBHSFan wrote:

Footwedge wrote:

CenterBHSFan wrote:

dwccrew wrote: Rand Paul is no racisit. I would classify Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, David Duke, Robert Byrd all racists over Rand Paul.

That makes you a racist, sir!

I'm confused here.

It was a joke

I knew it was a joke because I hate all people equally.

the kid is just a chip off the old block
dad opposes the civil rights laws to give blacks basic rights
dad take donations from neonazis
under his name a series of racist, anti semitic newsletters were put out
heck he even opposes fighting the civil war to end slavery
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2007/11/ron-paul-refuses-divest-donations-neo-nazis
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/10/paul.newsletters/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22342301//

Ohhhhhhh Isi! Them's fightin' words to alot of folks!

well cb, maybe the truth will set them free, but probably not. for none are so blind as those who will not see, or something like that.

isadore wrote: well cb, maybe the truth will set them free, but probably not. for none are so blind as those who will not see, or something like that.

"Or something like that" is right-O!

haha

isadore wrote:
heck he even opposes fighting the civil war to end slavery

MAybe you need a history lesson, the Civil War was fought to preserve the Union, not to end slavery. Slavery was the issue that put the North and South at odds, but not the reason for the war. The war was because the South seceeded from the union.

You are misleading everyone (just as you are misleading with all of your accusations) by saying Dr. Paul opposed the civil war to end slavery, he opposed it because he believes the states rights should trump federal governments. Here, learn something.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/U.S.+Civil+War

The U.S. Civil War, also called the War between the States, was waged from April 1861 until April 1865. The war was precipitated by the secession of eleven Southern states during 1860 and 1861 and their formation of the Confederate States of America under President Jefferson Davis. The Southern states had feared that the new president, Abraham Lincoln, who had been elected in 1860, and Northern politicians would block the expansion of Slavery and endanger the existing slaveholding system. Though Lincoln did free Southern slaves during the war by issuing the Emancipation Proclamation, he fought primarily to restore the Union.

Also, Ron Paul has stated he accepted the donation NOT because he supports the neo-nazi's views, but because the donator supports Ron Paul's views. He even asks why should he give the money back so the guy can use it for evil purposes? Ron Paul is a solid wall that neither the left or right can break down.

People claiming Ron Paul is a racist are reaching, big time.



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