oh. crazy people saying crazy shit. how surprising!

I'm curious as to what makes this so crazy?

Other than it's complete unlikelihood, of course.

many of it’s 58 Counties have become ungovernable,

Really?  You think it might be from illegals?

I am all for this ..............ironically I posted this an hour ago on the political forum under dusgusted with progressives thread.

I say we let them and dont give them any federal money

posted by Spock

 

Really?  You think it might be from illegals?

or it could be from the fact that a vast majority of the wealth and power comes from a concentrated portion of the state, resulting in everything else getting neglected.

posted by MontyBrunswick

or it could be from the fact that a vast majority of the wealth and power comes from a concentrated portion of the state, resulting in everything else getting neglected.

This. 

Old Cali keeps all the money, good riddance.

posted by Commander of Awesome

Old Cali keeps all the money, good riddance.

What's the line of thinking on this?  Silicon Valley?  Hollywood?

posted by Commander of Awesome

Old Cali keeps all the money, good riddance.

Not to mention all the smug self-importance.

posted by justincredible

Not to mention all the smug self-importance.

Main export.

posted by like_that

What's the line of thinking on this?  Silicon Valley?  Hollywood?

Cities

New Cali gets all the food.

posted by majorspark

New Cali gets all the food.

And cannabis. And natural beauty. And San Diego. I think New Cali would do just fine on its own.

I still like the Mike Polk succession plan. I'd vote for it.

posted by Commander of Awesome

I still like the Mike Polk succession plan. I'd vote for it.

Only way New Cali ever happens.

posted by Commander of Awesome

Cities

New California wouldn’t be too bad with San Diego and San Jose. Not to mention old California has 2 cities that went bankrupt and one very close to it. Unless I’m looking at the map incorrectly.

Id also be wary of banking on the tech companies.

Two comments:

1) Even just 2 more Senate seats (likely red) is a shitstorm that will never be agreed on, but possibly displace guns and abortion as the two biggest do-nothing wedge issues in politics.....a "six state" solution is even more untenable for the same reason

2) Also a huge pension liability issue....and one wonders if the rest of IL, for example, wouldn't want to carve out Chicago and it's burbs.  Same for NY.

posted by like_that

Id also be wary of banking on the tech companies.

Obviously a concentration and critical mass in Silicon Valley.....but Austin, Chicago and some other cities have been very successful at luring existing and start-up tech companies.

posted by gut

Two comments:

1) Even just 2 more Senate seats (likely red) is a shitstorm that will never be agreed on, but possibly displace guns and abortion as the two biggest do-nothing wedge issues in politics.....a "six state" solution is even more untenable for the same reason

Also two more electoral votes.

Lots of tech popping up in the Midwest.

At some point in my lifetime I think there will be a pretty big shakeup in how the United States looks. Either a new state (or multiples) will form from the existing 50 splitting up, or the United States will dissolve into a few smaller nations. 

posted by justincredible

At some point in my lifetime I think there will be a pretty big shakeup in how the United States looks. Either a new state (or multiples) will form from the existing 50 splitting up, or the United States will dissolve into a few smaller nations. 

I don’t know about few smaller nations, but definitely could see some of the bigger states splitting up.

When can we do away with the "known to California" warnings to cause something bad to happen to me?