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Jan 6, 2010 10:11 PM
And he was insulted. From $900,000 to 1.4 million for the remaining 3 years sure seems like a bunch to me. What am I missing?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4802820
Jan 6, 2010 10:11pm
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Jan 6, 2010 10:14 PM
From the PD article on it, here are salaries for players with similar roles.

Devin Hester (CHI) - $5.45 million
Andre Davis (HOU) - $4.3 million
Roscoe Parrish (BUF)- $3.2 million.
Jan 6, 2010 10:14pm
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Jan 6, 2010 10:16 PM
Seriously? Pay the man!
Jan 6, 2010 10:16pm
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Jan 6, 2010 10:17 PM
that is a fucking jokeee
Jan 6, 2010 10:17pm
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Jan 6, 2010 10:18 PM
He needs to go Anquan Boldin on them mothafuckasss
Jan 6, 2010 10:18pm
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Jan 6, 2010 10:19 PM
ts1227 wrote: From the PD article on it, here are salaries for players with similar roles.

Devin Hester (CHI) - $5.45 million
Andre Davis (HOU) - $4.3 million
Roscoe Parrish (BUF)- $3.2 million.
ahhh now that explains it. I see this getting ugly now.
Jan 6, 2010 10:19pm
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Jan 6, 2010 10:20 PM
all 3 of those guys have been busts. browns should take the hard line on this similar to what the bengals did with chad. cribbs needs the money so he can't sit out, it's his fault he signed the long contract.
Jan 6, 2010 10:20pm
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Jan 6, 2010 10:21 PM
As I said on the offseason thread, we can at least give him something close to Roscoe Parrish money. He's definitely earned that,
Jan 6, 2010 10:21pm
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Jan 6, 2010 10:22 PM
Browns do not realize how valuable he is, how fucking retarded can you be..play him at least 6 mil
Jan 6, 2010 10:22pm
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Jan 6, 2010 10:24 PM
Just pay him what he wants. Doubtful you'll find a bigger special teams/offensive playmaker.
Jan 6, 2010 10:24pm
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Jan 6, 2010 10:27 PM
I see both sides of this. I want him to stay and think they should pay him more then what they offered but I also see the business side of this too. In very few cases does the player exceed the expectations of the contract they sign, it is usually the other way around, they play well the year before they sign, get the big contract then they go bust and don't live up to the money. Do the players give the money back when they suck after they sign the big contract. Just saying they need to meet in the middle. Hopefully for us fans they will.
Jan 6, 2010 10:27pm
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Jan 6, 2010 10:36 PM
Devin Hester is more valuable than Cribbs. He returns kicks(same amount of total career returns for tds as cribbs) and hes a better offensive weapon at this point
Jan 6, 2010 10:36pm
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Jan 6, 2010 10:42 PM
Hb31187 wrote: Devin Hester is more valuable than Cribbs. He returns kicks(same amount of total career returns for tds as cribbs) and hes a better offensive weapon at this point
Devin Hester is way overpaid for what he does, but he is a lot better as a receiver. Cribbs should get around 3.5 or a little less.
Jan 6, 2010 10:42pm
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Jan 6, 2010 10:44 PM
Yeah im not sayin hes worth that much, But people seemed like they think Cribbs should be making more then everyone on that list lol
Jan 6, 2010 10:44pm
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Jan 6, 2010 10:48 PM
Hb31187 wrote: Yeah im not sayin hes worth that much, But people seemed like they think Cribbs should be making more then everyone on that list lol
If Cribbs wants more than Davis or Hester, he needs to contact their agents...lol. I like Cribbs and I think his contract needs redone, but his demands are crazy. And it doesn't help that the Browns gave him a halfass offer.
Jan 6, 2010 10:48pm
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Jan 6, 2010 10:48 PM
what teams did cribbs' return tds come against this year?
Jan 6, 2010 10:48pm
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Jan 6, 2010 10:50 PM
We all gotta figure this deal will get done. The season has only been over with for 3 days. Holmgren has 5 months to get a deal done with him before camp starts. It will happen. Not to mention we still havent figured out the GM or coach for that matter. Contract talks will come after this. (Cribbs,J. Harrison,Vickers, Roth, DJackson..hopefully) I agree with mantooth...the neighborhood of 3.5-4.0 sounds about right. Although for that money, he needs to find a more prominant role on the offensive side of the ball. He has not done much to impress out of the wildcat other than Pittsburgh.
Jan 6, 2010 10:50pm
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Jan 6, 2010 10:50 PM
2 against the Steelers, but I don't know about the others.
Jan 6, 2010 10:50pm
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Jan 6, 2010 11:01 PM
From Wikipedia

2009

In July 2009, Cribbs was named pro football's top returner by NFL Total Access' Jamie Dukes.

On September 13, in the Browns' home opener versus the Minnesota Vikings, Cribbs returned a punt 67 yards for a touchdown, tying the team record for returns for a touchdown (7) with Eric Metcalf. Also, in that same game, Cribbs was named the starting No. 2 wide receiver for the first time in his NFL career.

On October 18, Cribbs returned a Pittsburgh kickoff for a touchdown, breaking the team record for returns for a touchdown. In this game he became the first NFL player to throw an interception and record a kick-off return touchdown in the same game since 1950.

On December 10, Cribbs led the Browns to victory over the Pittsburgh Steelers, their first win over their rival in 13 games. Cribbs led all offensive players with 200 all-purpose yards, including 87 yards rushing out of the Wildcat formation.[5]

Cribbs was endorsed by fellow teammate and Browns starting left tackle Joe Thomas as having the chance of becoming a great NFL running back.[6]

On December 20, Cribbs returned two kickoffs for touchdowns against the Kansas City Chiefs to set and extend the all-time NFL record for most kickoff returns for TD's in a career.

On December 29, Cribbs was named to the 2010 Pro Bowl for the second time in his career as the Browns' and AFC's representative as the kick returner.
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Jan 6, 2010 11:01pm
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Jan 6, 2010 11:11 PM
Hb31187 wrote: Devin Hester is more valuable than Cribbs. He returns kicks(same amount of total career returns for tds as cribbs) and hes a better offensive weapon at this point
How can Hester have the same number of kick returns as Cribbs when Cribbs holds the NFL record for a career?
Jan 6, 2010 11:11pm
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Jan 6, 2010 11:14 PM
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Jan 6, 2010 11:14pm
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Jan 6, 2010 11:15 PM
I said returns period. He has more punt returns than Cribbs, or meant to say returns period if i didnt. My bad
Jan 6, 2010 11:15pm
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Jan 7, 2010 12:35 AM
I'm not a Browns fan but, Cribbs deserves a lot more than 1.4
Jan 7, 2010 12:35am
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Jan 7, 2010 12:49 AM
"To whom much is given, much is required!" Ooooo wait, the Browns don't give him anything, so I guess Cribbs isn't really required to give much in return. Are we the only ones who see how good this guy is? I think next year, he should catch some kickoffs and punts and just have a seat on the field. No respectable pay = no services :)
Jan 7, 2010 12:49am
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Jan 7, 2010 1:38 AM
Kribbs is worth every bit of 3 million a year. Had the Browns made an offer in that ballpark and he reacted the way he did, then I don't think fans would be overly sympathetic.

$1.4 million is absurd considering how important he is to this team, and does nothing but create a scene because they had to know the type of response that was going to illicit from him. I would have expected a back handed offer like that from Mangini, but not Holmgren.

I hope Josh gets every dollar he can. He played the good soldier last year when he could have been a distraction, and deserves to get paid. Doing what he does, he realistically has another 3-4 year window he could play at this level and then he will essentially be done. It's time to cash in.

I am ordinarily in the "honor the contract you signed camp", but not in the case of the NFL when you can have a "contract" that the team thinks nothing of ripping up and cutting you no matter how many years or dollars you have left on it the second you lose a step or it makes sense from a cap perspective.

Unlike the NBA or MLB the absence of guaranteed contracts necessitates this constant renegotiation on the players part if they are out performing their deals because they have zero job security in reality. You are always one play away from doing what Wes Welker did, and you never know how effective you will be when you return. Do whatever you have to do to get what you can while you have your health because the loyalty on the teams end is non-existent.
Jan 7, 2010 1:38am