Shots fired at Trump rally

MontyBrunswick

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 11:44 AM

Oh good, another thread has devolved into a libs vs conservatives argument.

I'm out. God speed to all of you.

CenterBHSFan

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 11:56 AM
posted by MontyBrunswick

Oh good, another thread has devolved into a libs vs conservatives argument.

I'm out. God speed to all of you.

Girl, bye lol

CenterBHSFan

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 11:58 AM

For those who think this tragedy has won Trump the presidency, do you think that - if the Dems put up somebody else like Whitmer that it would make much of a difference at this point? Or would it still be full steam ahead either way?

Dr Winston O'Boogie

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 12:00 PM
posted by gut

I was talking specifically about the politicians and their media.  The party of "isms" have been using those labels perjoratively for 20+ years with anyone that disagrees with them.

Saying Trump is Hitler is over-the-top vile hyperbole.  Saying Biden is senile turns out to be true...

Biden is senile is true.  Great replacement, New World Order, Soros, pro-life = holocaust, it’s all the trash.  All has been put forth by elected officials just the same as the left wing lunacy.


Dr Winston O'Boogie

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 12:00 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

For those who think this tragedy has won Trump the presidency, do you think that - if the Dems put up somebody else like Whitmer that it would make much of a difference at this point? Or would it still be full steam ahead either way?

I think Trump wins now regardless of the opponent.


jmog

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 1:44 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Election over.

Trump should win in a landslide now. This plays directly into everything he has been saying for years. Next week will be a coronation for him as he plays this up as he should. 

Also, this is absolutely crazy and is closest this country has been to the chaos of 1968 and 1969.


You sure? Are you a PhD in American Political Science? How could you possibly know? 


Kind of like we were all wrong about Biden bc we weren’t medical doctors right? Your take on that didn’t age well at all.


Dr Winston O'Boogie

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 1:50 PM
posted by jmog

You sure? Are you a PhD in American Political Science? How could you possibly know? 


Kind of like we were all wrong about Biden bc we weren’t medical doctors right? Your take on that didn’t age well at all.


He’s making an opinion.  Don’t be a dick.


Ironman92

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 2:03 PM

Shoot was a 20 year old republican but made a donation to the Democratic Party on Biden’s inauguration.

Both parents were well to do democrats.

Kid was a bit of a loner 

CenterBHSFan

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 2:04 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

He’s making an opinion.  Don’t be a dick.


Excuse me, but are you new here?

We are all dicks.

CenterBHSFan

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 2:08 PM
posted by Ironman92

Shoot was a 20 year old republican but made a donation to the Democratic Party on Biden’s inauguration.

Both parents were well to do democrats.

Kid was a bit of a loner 

Mental health issues imo.

He's at the age that suffered a lot from Covid. Forced isolation, couldn't graduate like normal, etc. If he already had issues, Covid mandates  compounded them 10 fold. 

Even without all of that - a person would have to be baseline nuts to do something like that. From the get-go.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 2:10 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Excuse me, but are you new here?

We are all dicks.

I know.  But jmog is so literal and is like a dog with a bone about p-town.  He thinks p-town is wrong for calling himself a moderate and he disagrees with his take on Biden’s senility.  WE GET IT. 


CenterBHSFan

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 3:56 PM

I feel so much sympathy for the victim and his family.

I also feel some of that for the villains family. I mean can you even imagine all of the feelings that they are experiencing? They will carry all this forever, too. Hopefully they will be left alone and not targeted in any way.

geeblock

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 4:24 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I know.  But jmog is so literal and is like a dog with a bone about p-town.  He thinks p-town is wrong for calling himself a moderate and he disagrees with his take on Biden’s senility.  WE GET IT. 


He chases away any poster who isn’t on the right or challenges any posts on the right but claims to be libertarian. This is why the site has so few members and people just leave because he’s insufferable. 


geeblock

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 4:25 PM
posted by gut

I was talking specifically about the politicians and their media.  The party of "isms" have been using those labels perjoratively for 20+ years with anyone that disagrees with them.

Saying Trump is Hitler is over-the-top vile hyperbole.  Saying Biden is senile turns out to be true...

Jd Vance is probably the most notable person who called trump americas hitler unless I’m missing someone considering he’s up to be the vice president. 


geeblock

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 4:27 PM

I lol’d 

geeblock

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 4:41 PM

On a side note, my wife is from butler, pa and had childhood friends and neighbors there. This is definitely the heart of MAGA country with most yards and houses with trump flags and multiple billboards similar to the hell is real thing we have here. I have posted them before. I wonder if this is why security was so lax or maybe not as stringent as other places. 

CenterBHSFan

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 6:58 PM
posted by geeblock

He chases away any poster who isn’t on the right or challenges any posts on the right but claims to be libertarian. This is why the site has so few members and people just leave because he’s insufferable. 


There were and are other posters who have done way more damage to traffic on this site than jmog. 

Heretic

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 7:01 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I know.  But jmog is so literal and is like a dog with a bone about p-town.  He thinks p-town is wrong for calling himself a moderate and he disagrees with his take on Biden’s senility.  WE GET IT. 


Look, man, just because you have other things in your life besides saying you "won" an internet argument and your brain doesn't break and put you in "obsessive ex" mode because someone openly disagreed with your opinion, doesn't mean everyone is so fortunate!

CenterBHSFan

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 7:04 PM

A little while ago I was watching a Jimmy Dore Livestream where he played a vid of the shooting. It shows snipers on a roof, finger on trigger, looking down their scopes, didn't shoot until the villain did. Now, I'm not sure if that vid is 100% correct with the timing of it. But it does kind of draw me in considering just how long one bystander was telling the cops/Spooks that there was a man on a roof bear crawling with a gun. 

Has anybody else seen that vid?

gut

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 7:20 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Has anybody else seen that vid?

I don't think it's possible to know the timing.  I also heard that a cop climbed a ladder to confront the shooter, but then must have bailed when the shooter pointed the gun at him.  Then apparently the shooter immediately open fired soon after, so it's possible that cop disrupted him enough to just miss.

As for the counter sniper, guessing he could have been 200 yards away or more.  It's going to take a few seconds to line-up that shot.

But if any of the above is true, that's going to give conspiracy theorists plenty of material to work with.

gut

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 7:25 PM
posted by geeblock

Jd Vance is probably the most notable person who called trump americas hitler unless I’m missing someone considering he’s up to be the vice president. 


Well, aside from the current POTUS whom, if he hasn't directly referred to Trump as Hitler has certainly made that connection numerous times.

friendfromlowry

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 8:31 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

A little while ago I was watching a Jimmy Dore Livestream where he played a vid of the shooting. It shows snipers on a roof, finger on trigger, looking down their scopes, didn't shoot until the villain did. Now, I'm not sure if that vid is 100% correct with the timing of it. But it does kind of draw me in considering just how long one bystander was telling the cops/Spooks that there was a man on a roof bear crawling with a gun. 

Has anybody else seen that vid?

I haven’t seen it but I only need to be on X for a few minutes before being overwhelmed with everyone screaming conspiracies or assigning blame. Need a social media blackout for a bit. 


jmog

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 8:34 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

He’s making an opinion.  Don’t be a dick.


Have you read any of ptown’s BS on Biden’s mental faculties? Couldn’t give an opinion unless you were a doctor  


jmog

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Sun, Jul 14, 2024 8:35 PM
posted by geeblock

He chases away any poster who isn’t on the right or challenges any posts on the right but claims to be libertarian. This is why the site has so few members and people just leave because he’s insufferable. 


Oh yes, so few members because I have called you out for BS. Yup, that’s the reason.


Good Lord.


And I have actually voted for both sides of the aisle for POTUS and Congress, multiple times each way.


Can you say the same? How many R presidents have you voted for?


I understand bc I am not a far left wing nut case that means I can’t possibly be middle of the road, but I have actually and do consistently vote both sides. Can you say the same?  


I voted for Bill C and Obama (whichever term he went against McCain/Palin).