Tribe Talk- Off Season Chatter

BRF Senior Member
11,621 posts 111 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Dec 15, 2019 8:33 PM
posted by Gardens35

Kluber traded to Rangers.

 

Wow. 
 

Actually don’t mind. Hopefully we got some good return on this. 
 

My problem with Kluber was that he was an uber Charles Nagy. Racked up a lot of wins, but when it came to a game we really needed, not there. 

BRF Senior Member
11,621 posts 111 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Dec 15, 2019 9:42 PM

And we get DeShields and Clase. 
 

hmmmmmm
 

 

cat_lover Senior Member
3,629 posts 44 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Dec 15, 2019 10:39 PM

I don't like this trade at all.

33,369 posts 133 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Dec 15, 2019 11:28 PM

That return is putrid. Classe is a really nice piece but still a reliever. DeShields is just another 4th OFer...so I guess he’ll fit right in with our other 5.

33,369 posts 133 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Dec 15, 2019 11:35 PM
posted by BRF
My problem with Kluber was that he was an uber Charles Nagy. Racked up a lot of wins, but when it came to a game we really needed, not there. 

What? He was unhittable in 2016 until we made him throw like 900 pitches in 1 postseason and he finally cracked in game 7 (and still wasn’t awful).

2017 would’ve been nice to have him healthy, and not trying to pitch through the oblique injury. 

2018 was bad, but who knows how good he actually was with the cheating Astros. 

BRF Senior Member
11,621 posts 111 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Dec 16, 2019 12:33 AM

^^^^^^^^^ And yet, you actually agree with me. 
 

 

HitsRus Senior Member
9,358 posts 86 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Dec 16, 2019 9:21 AM

This would have been a good trade if we would have gotten a PTBNL based on Kluber’s performance. As it stands, it’s just a salary dump with little upside.

This can still be salvaged if we take the money saved from Kluber’s salary and go out and get a positive addition to make the team better.

yeah, I know. Just dreaming.

33,369 posts 133 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Dec 16, 2019 9:48 AM
posted by Laley23
My problem with Kluber was that he was an uber Charles Nagy. Racked up a lot of wins, but when it came to a game we really needed, not there. 

What? He was unhittable in 2016 until we made him throw like 900 pitches in 1 postseason and he finally cracked in game 7 (and still wasn’t awful).

2017 would’ve been nice to have him healthy, and not trying to pitch through the oblique injury. 

2018 was bad, but who knows how good he actually was with the cheating Astros. 

No, I’m saying he had 1 bad game in his 7 postseason starts with us. Plus 2 where he had a pulled oblique and team kept it quite until season was over. He shouldn’t have even been on the postseason roster in 2017.

BRF Senior Member
11,621 posts 111 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Dec 16, 2019 11:55 AM

Kluber’s post season record is 4-3. 
 

Here’s one I agree with you on: DeShields does nothing for this team. 2019: .249 4 homers 32 rbi

33,369 posts 133 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Dec 16, 2019 12:26 PM
posted by BRF

Kluber’s post season record is 4-3. 
 

Here’s one I agree with you on: DeShields does nothing for this team. 2019: .249 4 homers 32 rbi

If they win game 7, he is WS MVP. I see 1.5 bad games in 2016/18, and then 2 games in 2017 when he was injured and shouldn’t have been on the roster.

People wanted Bauer and “trusted him”, but Kluber was the stalwart. He was a true Ace in 2016, and dominated 3 great offenses (3x I believe in short rest). Not sure what else we wanted?

Verbal Kint Senior Member
1,062 posts 16 reps Joined Jul 2017
Mon, Dec 16, 2019 1:10 PM
posted by HitsRus

This would have been a good trade if we would have gotten a PTBNL based on Kluber’s performance. As it stands, it’s just a salary dump with little upside.

This can still be salvaged if we take the money saved from Kluber’s salary and go out and get a positive addition to make the team better.

yeah, I know. Just dreaming.

This post.  Exactly.

Gardens35 Senior Member
5,888 posts 39 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Dec 16, 2019 1:15 PM

Dumped Kluber's salary, picked up a reliever with potential, sent another message to Zimmer..........all in one transaction.

 

 

33,369 posts 133 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Dec 16, 2019 3:54 PM
posted by Verbal Kint

This post.  Exactly.

Problem is it screams salary dump, so highly unlikely it is reinvested.

HitsRus Senior Member
9,358 posts 86 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Dec 16, 2019 5:29 PM

The Indians are getting smeared in the national media for this one.

As in “What the hell are they doing?”

33,369 posts 133 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Dec 16, 2019 6:57 PM
posted by HitsRus

The Indians are getting smeared in the national media for this one.

As in “What the hell are they doing?”

They deserve it. The trade is awful, even if it pans out. They have 1 more year to go for it, and they are instead selling before the season. Its a complete joke.

Trading Kluber wasnt a bad option to improve the team. Trading him and not getting a bat, or even an above average OFer or 2B is a travesty. But they couldnt do that, because someone like that is going to have decent salary attached. Its why it is so obvious all they wanted to do was get rid of his salary. In that retrospect, its actually amazing they got Clase in the deal lol.

BRF Senior Member
11,621 posts 111 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Dec 16, 2019 9:09 PM
posted by HitsRus

As in “What the hell are they doing?”

Yeah........what the hell ARE they doing?

Next will be Lindor and teams will be licking their chops because of this trade that the front office apparently was satisfied with. 
 

 

Verbal Kint Senior Member
1,062 posts 16 reps Joined Jul 2017
Mon, Dec 16, 2019 9:47 PM
posted by Laley23

Problem is it screams salary dump, so highly unlikely it is reinvested.

agreed

HitsRus Senior Member
9,358 posts 86 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Dec 17, 2019 12:24 PM

Dodgers and Tribe talks about Lindor have stalled due to LA wants Clevinger too.

hahahaha.....(I hope)

BRF Senior Member
11,621 posts 111 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Dec 19, 2019 5:21 PM

cat_lover Senior Member
3,629 posts 44 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Dec 19, 2019 9:44 PM

I see what you did there. Reps!! Dolan's are cheap. I wonder what kind of 2nd baseman they will come up with.
Tony Bernazard or Jack Brohamer anyone?

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