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BR1986FB Senior Member
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Thu, Jan 2, 2020 8:44 PM

Like freaking Groundhog Day all over again...has this moron (Haslam) learned NOTHING from his previous mistakes? In his presser he said they'd hire the coach first who would help with the GM search. Not the most favorable approach but then the dumbass proceeds to say the HC & GM will both report to him, equally, so both are going to have his ear. That's worked SO well in the past. SMDH

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Thu, Jan 2, 2020 9:35 PM
posted by BR1986FB

This actually wasn't a bad move. He drafted 2 Pro Bowlers (same as Sashi) and the shit that's leaking out is that he was an egomaniac control freak. DePodesta gave him a scouting report from the analytics department and Dorsey threw it in the trash in front of all of the scouts. Dorsey hired a weak HC (Kitchens) who could be his puppet/yes man and when Haslam wouldn't let him do it again, he got canned.

What will be interesting is what happens with Mayfield. This is a make or break year for him with a strong 2021 QB draft class. Either he puts in the work, performs, and keeps his job or they are back to square one. He doesn't have his enablers (Dorsey/Kitchens) to cover for him. He needs a strong leader who will hold him accountable & push him. Time for Baker to wake up.

As far as this search goes, my expectations (in order) would be:

1) Andrew Berry GM & Kevin Stefanski HC

2) Dave Ziegler GM & Josh McDaniels HC

3) Eliot Wolf GM & Mike McCarthy HC

He also assembled the most talented roster they have had in like 3 decades lol (and same can be said for his KC roster). Would’ve given him another year at least. 

BRF Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 3, 2020 12:21 AM

Go back to page 1 on this thread and read. 
 

Interesting.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Fri, Jan 3, 2020 5:31 AM
posted by BRF

Go back to page 1 on this thread and read. 
 

Interesting.

Plz ignore all posts of mine that will make me look dumb.  Thanks in advance.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 3, 2020 7:54 AM

Agree with a lot of stuff in this article, especially #3. They should switch their O-Line philosophy to a zone blocking scheme to get the most out of Chubb & Hunt. Plus, most of these schools, running spread offenses, have more athletic OL than maulers...

https://sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/4-ways-browns-can-quit-being-nfl-laughingstock-including-top-coaching-candidate-015817640.html?__twitter_impression=true

thavoice Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 3, 2020 10:06 AM
posted by BR1986FB

Like freaking Groundhog Day all over again...has this moron (Haslam) learned NOTHING from his previous mistakes? In his presser he said they'd hire the coach first who would help with the GM search. Not the most favorable approach but then the dumbass proceeds to say the HC & GM will both report to him, equally, so both are going to have his ear. That's worked SO well in the past. SMDH

Not a fan of hiring the HC then the GM.   I like the whole chain of command thing from top to bottom of the GM hiring coach.  HC hires assistants.   Shit goes bad, HC can fire assistants, GM fire HC. etc.  

 

I think it is a ploy though to get an experienced guy like McCarthy or a big name.....   I would think coaches like that would LIKE to be able to have input and hire the GM.   While you all are saying it is a bad move, and generally it is, I think Haslam is being a sly fox and doing it this way to entice a big name coach.......

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 3, 2020 10:11 AM
posted by thavoice

Not a fan of hiring the HC then the GM.   I like the whole chain of command thing from top to bottom of the GM hiring coach.  HC hires assistants.   Shit goes bad, HC can fire assistants, GM fire HC. etc.  

 

I think it is a ploy though to get an experienced guy like McCarthy or a big name.....   I would think coaches like that would LIKE to be able to have input and hire the GM.   While you all are saying it is a bad move, and generally it is, I think Haslam is being a sly fox and doing it this way to entice a big name coach.......

The most disturbing thing is that both the HC & GM will both report to Haslam, so they will both have his ear. From past experience, Haslam can be easily swayed and this setup is ripe for backstabbing, etc.

thavoice Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 3, 2020 10:20 AM
posted by BR1986FB

The most disturbing thing is that both the HC & GM will both report to Haslam, so they will both have his ear. From past experience, Haslam can be easily swayed and this setup is ripe for backstabbing, etc.

True.

I think this method is a strong ploy to get a big name HC.  That has to be attractive...

Al Bundy Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 3, 2020 6:40 PM
posted by thavoice

True.

I think this method is a strong ploy to get a big name HC.  That has to be attractive...

I hope that it works, but we have tried this method before, and it has been a disater.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 3, 2020 11:27 PM

Hmmmmm, fuck you Goodell....

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BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sat, Jan 4, 2020 1:52 PM

Unless you're a Stefanski (or other coordinator) guy, Browns fans should be rooting for a Titans win tonight over NE. Would help things if McDaniels was free to make a decision and McCarthy is heading to Dallas and could be off the market soon. Do NOT want to be stuck with one of these "up & coming" coordinators like they've had in the past. Greg Roman & Robert Saleh intrigue me but no interest in Stefanski or Daboll. Prefer to have the HC who has had interest working with the HOF QB's, who has some cred, and can establish a culture.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sun, Jan 5, 2020 6:20 PM

Lol not browns related per se, but apparently Marvin Lewis told the Cowboys that if hired Hue would have to be his OC. How not to get hired for 1000.....

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sun, Jan 5, 2020 6:38 PM
posted by iclfan2

Lol not browns related per se, but apparently Marvin Lewis told the Cowboys that if hired Hue would have to be his OC. How not to get hired for 1000.....

A lot of people are high on McCarthy but during that year off to "recreate" himself, one of his "trusted advisors" was Hue Jackson.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Jan 6, 2020 10:03 AM

McCarthy to Dallas

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Jan 6, 2020 6:25 PM

CSPN@CSPNetwork

 

REPORT: Sources telling us that Mike McCarthy was quick to jump on the Cowboys job because he was given strong indications that Josh McDaniels was inevitably going to be offered the Browns HC Job.

Expect McDaniels to be offered the job in the coming days.

1:50 PM - Jan 6, 2020

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Mon, Jan 6, 2020 6:40 PM

How real is that account?

33,369 posts 117 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Jan 6, 2020 8:48 PM

McDaniels withdraws name from Browns consideration. 

That guy is sure full of himself.

BRF Senior Member
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Mon, Jan 6, 2020 9:01 PM
posted by Laley23

McDaniels withdraws name from Browns consideration. 

That guy is sure full of himself.

I find that odd being that he played at Canton McKinley.  Wasn't his name bantered around a few years ago with the Browns searching for a coach?

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Mon, Jan 6, 2020 9:01 PM
posted by Laley23

McDaniels withdraws name from Browns consideration. 

That guy is sure full of himself.

Where did you see this? I don’t see anyone on Browns twitter reporting.

33,369 posts 117 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Jan 6, 2020 9:30 PM
posted by iclfan2

Where did you see this? I don’t see anyone on Browns twitter reporting.

Shefter. But maybe a fake, I didn’t look too closely and it was a retweet.

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