Browns BS Drama continued Part II...

posted by Ironman92

You guys fully trust Dorsey?

 

I would say cautiously yes. However, his FA class and draft has some SERIOUS red flags. How much of that is due to dysfunction with Hue Jackson? I'm willing to give him a wait and see pass.

However, not signing better WRs, giving away Gordon for a bag of beans, trading a 3rd round pick for TT, drafting Corbett & Chad Thomas instead of better players can't just be swept under the rug. Those all have to be noted as critical failures.

Top of this year's 3rd round. Who doesn't fit?

65. B. Parker, starter

66. L. Carter, 2 sacks lead Giants

67. C. Thomas, 22 snaps.

68. J. Reid, starter

69. BJ Hill, starter

70. F. Warner, starter

71. R. Freeman, starter

72. N. Shepherd, 4 starts

73. J. Baker, starter

posted by Ironman92

You guys fully trust Dorsey?

 

Yes, implicitly 

posted by Commander of Awesome

I would say cautiously yes. However, his FA class and draft has some SERIOUS red flags. How much of that is due to dysfunction with Hue Jackson? I'm willing to give him a wait and see pass.

 

However, not signing better WRs, giving away Gordon for a bag of beans, trading a 3rd round pick for TT, drafting Corbett & Chad Thomas instead of better players can't just be swept under the rug. Those all have to be noted as critical failures.

 

Top of this year's 3rd round. Who doesn't fit?

65. B. Parker, starter

66. L. Carter, 2 sacks lead Giants

67. C. Thomas, 22 snaps.

68. J. Reid, starter

69. BJ Hill, starter

70. F. Warner, starter

71. R. Freeman, starter

72. N. Shepherd, 4 starts

73. J. Baker, starter

A GM, even the best one, is going to make some mistakes. You can’t expect him to make 100% correct decisions. He’s going to draft busts, make poor trades, sign questionable FA’s, etc. 

Youre the guy saying the patriots had a bad draft the year they drafted Brady because their 3rd round pick never panned out. Lol

Count me in on Dorsey too. My only concern could be cap management which seems to be the previous knock on him. My other concern is the obvious, Haslam.

posted by SportsAndLady

Yes. 

Kelce, mahomes, Hill, Hunt. All his picks. And he brought on Andy Reid. 

He knows what he’s doing. 

You just sold me too lol

Fair enough

Most telling line of this piece...

Haslam, who directed both the Jackson hire and the drafting of Manziel, has given Dorsey no assurances he’ll go with the new GM’s recommendation, according to the two league sources.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/11/06/hue-jackson-firing-baker-mayfield-locker-room-reaction-gregg-williams-todd-haley

posted by BR1986FB

Most telling line of this piece...

Haslam, who directed both the Jackson hire and the drafting of Manziel, has given Dorsey no assurances he’ll go with the new GM’s recommendation, according to the two league sources.

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/11/06/hue-jackson-firing-baker-mayfield-locker-room-reaction-gregg-williams-todd-haley

Insanity

posted by iclfan2

Insanity

Not saying Haslam will 100% butt in but the asshole should practice what he preaches. When he sold his ownership with the Steelers he said he wanted to "model the Browns like what he learned in Pittsburgh" or something to that effect. Since he's been here he's done the complete opposite. Now do I want them to become the Steelers West? No but there is something to be said about letting football men run football teams. Quit playing armchair GM and let Dorsey do what you're paying him for.

Bruce Arians next HC?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25187301/bruce-arians-cleveland-browns-opening-only-job-consider

Kirksey & EJ Gaines to IR

posted by BR1986FB

Kirksey & EJ Gaines to IR

Damn

posted by SportsAndLady

Damn

They need Schobert back. That overachiever is the straw that stirs the drink on that defense.

posted by BR1986FB

Kirksey & EJ Gaines to IR

Ive only watched 3 of the Browns games but Kirksey was one of the best players on the team.

posted by Ironman92

Ive only watched 3 of the Browns games but Kirksey was one of the best players on the team.

 

Not so much this year, imo. He's been really good in the past but has fallen off this year. Schobert's been their best guy. The whole linebacking corps needs an overhaul with the exception of Schobert. They could bury Jamie Collins in a huge hole, walk away and forget about his pay check collecting ass for all I care.

Kirksey is a leader on the defense though. Really on the team. He may have lost a step this year (not sure if that’s true or not, I haven’t noticed it), but he does a lot more for this team than just on the field performance. 

posted by SportsAndLady

Kirksey is a leader on the defense though. Really on the team. He may have lost a step this year (not sure if that’s true or not, I haven’t noticed it), but he does a lot more for this team than just on the field performance. 

He didn't play to his level, but I also don't think he was remotely close to being 100% at any time this year. 

If MKC is right (for once), music to our ears....

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2018/11/the-haslams-have-put-john-dorsey-in-charge-of-the-browns-coaching-search-source-says.html

Not banking on it but how sweet would it be if Greg Robinson ended up being the long-term starter at LT? 

posted by BR1986FB

Not banking on it but how sweet would it be if Greg Robinson ended up being the long-term starter at LT? 

Yeah it would be nice, but I'm not banking on it. He's been in the league for a long time, and Baldy did a breakdown of his day on Twitter. I'd suggest watching that before getting excited.

posted by Commander of Awesome

Yeah it would be nice, but I'm not banking on it. He's been in the league for a long time, and Baldy did a breakdown of his day on Twitter. I'd suggest watching that before getting excited.

I'm just hoping the quicker passing routes/quicker release they are developing for Baker will mask the LT's shortcomings. At least Robinson isn't light in the pants, getting blown up into the QB, like Harrison.