Shots fired at Trump rally

Ironman92 Administrator
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Tue, Jul 16, 2024 4:46 PM
posted by iclfan2

Lol I haven’t seen that, but did you see the women in PA? Hiring the best person for the job goes against all the lib values. The current woman in charge of the SS is big into DEI. And yes, the women have lower standards to uphold than the men. 


If the biggest Trump guy in the world was also a big fan of say the Bengals and the best 5 lineman for the job of protecting Joe Burrow were 5 lesbian, transgendered women…they’d be all for those 5 women at the job 


CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Tue, Jul 16, 2024 4:48 PM

Biden probably would like to fire her, especially if he wants to prove Trump wrong about never firing anybody . But he just bragged about his DEI hires a week or so ago. Kinda painted himself into a corner.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Tue, Jul 16, 2024 8:04 PM
posted by Ironman92

If the biggest Trump guy in the world was also a big fan of say the Bengals and the best 5 lineman for the job of protecting Joe Burrow were 5 lesbian, transgendered women…they’d be all for those 5 women at the job 


Why can’t lesbians play defense?  Are you saying because they’re lesbians, they HAVE to play offense…even if their dream is to play defense?


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Ironman92 Administrator
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Tue, Jul 16, 2024 8:49 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Why can’t lesbians play defense?  Are you saying because they’re lesbians, they HAVE to play offense…even if their dream is to play defense?


Well if they play defense and Joe gets demolished on offense. Bengals wouldn’t be maximizing the ladies worth 


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Tue, Jul 16, 2024 8:55 PM

This is obviously the worst Secret Service event since 1981, but the agency has been a mess for a while

From 2012 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-17747793

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jun/15/us-secret-service-scandals-revealed

2015

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/secret-service-in-crisis-after-breaches-and-scandals-house-panel-says/


DEI isn't the reason as the scandels are both in D and R administrations. The agency itself is just a huge mess right now. Complete leadership restructuring is needed, now. 

jmog Senior Member
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Tue, Jul 16, 2024 9:22 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

This is obviously the worst Secret Service event since 1981, but the agency has been a mess for a while

From 2012 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-17747793

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jun/15/us-secret-service-scandals-revealed

2015

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/secret-service-in-crisis-after-breaches-and-scandals-house-panel-says/


DEI isn't the reason as the scandels are both in D and R administrations. The agency itself is just a huge mess right now. Complete leadership restructuring is needed, now. 

Agreed, but can we be sure since we aren’t doctors?


CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Tue, Jul 16, 2024 9:26 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

This is obviously the worst Secret Service event since 1981, but the agency has been a mess for a while

From 2012 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-17747793

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jun/15/us-secret-service-scandals-revealed

2015

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/secret-service-in-crisis-after-breaches-and-scandals-house-panel-says/


DEI isn't the reason as the scandels are both in D and R administrations. The agency itself is just a huge mess right now. Complete leadership restructuring is needed, now. 

I think this is a good point but

Why can't we let the gender queer people play special teams?

TedSheckler Emporium Entrepreneur
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Wed, Jul 17, 2024 8:04 AM
posted by Ironman92

Trump at an event with all male secret service.

Lib women mad 🤦🏻‍♂️


Just hire the best for the job, whatever that may be.

geeblock Member
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Wed, Jul 17, 2024 8:52 AM

I think if someone wants it bad enough and is willing to die, its not as hard as you would think to kill a president or anyone for that matter.  Probably shouldnt be as easy as it was in this case tho lol. 

jmog Senior Member
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Wed, Jul 17, 2024 11:15 AM
posted by geeblock

I think if someone wants it bad enough and is willing to die, its not as hard as you would think to kill a president or anyone for that matter.  Probably shouldnt be as easy as it was in this case tho lol. 

It definitely shouldn't be this easy to kill a President. But in general you are right, its not hard to kill most anyone else.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Jul 17, 2024 2:46 PM
posted by jmog

It definitely shouldn't be this easy to kill a President. But in general you are right, its not hard to kill most anyone else.

Most ordinary people aren't expecting someone to pull out a gun, knife or let off an explosive. President's and Presidential candidates should at least have their head on a swivel knowing there are lunatics out there. Been a while since we've had one, like the Trump incident, but I'm frankly surprised it's been so long between attempts.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Wed, Jul 17, 2024 3:02 PM
posted by jmog

It definitely shouldn't be this easy to kill a President. But in general you are right, its not hard to kill most anyone else.

Being in a very rural elementary school it just seems like an all-time zero chance and we practice all the measures as much or more than any big school in any big city. During every lockdown and practice I just think…..not a thing in the world to stop anyone from shooting dozens of kids at recess or dismissal when 300 kids get onto 6 buses over the span of about 4-5 minutes


Heretic Son of the Sun
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Wed, Jul 17, 2024 3:10 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Most ordinary people aren't expecting someone to pull out a gun, knife or let off an explosive. President's and Presidential candidates should at least have their head on a swivel knowing there are lunatics out there. Been a while since we've had one, like the Trump incident, but I'm frankly surprised it's been so long between attempts.

Honestly, I am, too. Things are getting more divisive and politicians seem to be more and more into just pandering to their base while acting like bickering children and also having their "social media influencer" fans turning things up to 11. Really fosters the sort of climate where it's easy to expect people to decide to go after them due to the growing divide combined with how it gets more and more difficult to even pretend a lot of those clowns actually deserve respect. Add in the publicity whore aspect of things and it really becomes a surprise, as it's not like there aren't opportunities for a dedicated nutjob to shoot his shot.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Jul 17, 2024 4:56 PM
posted by Heretic

Honestly, I am, too. Things are getting more divisive and politicians seem to be more and more into just pandering to their base while acting like bickering children and also having their "social media influencer" fans turning things up to 11. Really fosters the sort of climate where it's easy to expect people to decide to go after them due to the growing divide combined with how it gets more and more difficult to even pretend a lot of those clowns actually deserve respect. Add in the publicity whore aspect of things and it really becomes a surprise, as it's not like there aren't opportunities for a dedicated nutjob to shoot his shot.

When I'm most skittish is probably when we go to casinos. I've always thought that would be the perfect location for some whacko to detonate a bomb or go off on a shooting spree. Most of the security in those places is built like Peter Griffin.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Wed, Jul 17, 2024 5:02 PM
posted by BR1986FB

When I'm most skittish is probably when we go to casinos. I've always thought that would be the perfect location for some whacko to detonate a bomb or go off on a shooting spree. Most of the security in those places is built like Peter Griffin.

I would guess a country concert or NFL game


geeblock Member
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Wed, Jul 17, 2024 5:38 PM
posted by Ironman92

Being in a very rural elementary school it just seems like an all-time zero chance and we practice all the measures as much or more than any big school in any big city. During every lockdown and practice I just think…..not a thing in the world to stop anyone from shooting dozens of kids at recess or dismissal when 300 kids get onto 6 buses over the span of about 4-5 minutes


After 2 years in a row aid finding 10+ guns in the school, we finally have metal detectors and x rays. Even more importantly there are alarms on every door so students can’t go in and out, let people in, or order door dash. It’s inconvenient as a teacher to get in and out when I need to but I feel much safer. 


geeblock Member
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Wed, Jul 17, 2024 5:40 PM

The success rate on st least hitting the target even with presidents is extremely high off the top of my head. 

Ironman92 Administrator
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Wed, Jul 17, 2024 5:54 PM
posted by geeblock

After 2 years in a row aid finding 10+ guns in the school, we finally have metal detectors and x rays. Even more importantly there are alarms on every door so students can’t go in and out, let people in, or order door dash. It’s inconvenient as a teacher to get in and out when I need to but I feel much safer. 


Lancaster? Zanesville? I forgot where you are?


Ironman92 Administrator
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Wed, Jul 17, 2024 5:55 PM
posted by geeblock

After 2 years in a row aid finding 10+ guns in the school, we finally have metal detectors and x rays. Even more importantly there are alarms on every door so students can’t go in and out, let people in, or order door dash. It’s inconvenient as a teacher to get in and out when I need to but I feel much safer. 


The door dash comment makes me lol….I don’t think there is a door dash place within 12 miles of our high school


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