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Oklahoma teacher's strike

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iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
9,465 posts 100 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Apr 4, 2018 8:43 PM

Would like to know where all of the districts money go. Saw a graph the other day where admin costs are up 700% (found a similar article https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/28/school-administration-costs-soar-700-percent-1950/) is the teachers have a legit argument, but it should be blamed on the terribly ran schools, not “underfunding”. I know at my own high school we had dumbass positions like assistant athletic director, and athletic director that didn’t teach, a VP at all 3 schools instead of sharing, etc. 
Spock Senior Member
5,271 posts 9 reps Joined Jul 2013
Wed, Apr 4, 2018 9:44 PM

A lot of money goes to unfunded mandates by state and federal government.

Schools spend an unreal amount of money on resources to get kids to pass graduation tests and meet standards that keep changing.  Remember education has to remain broken to get politicians elected.
Devils Advocate Brudda o da bomber
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Wed, Apr 4, 2018 10:22 PM

Congrats! This is an informed intelligent post.
Zunardo Senior Member
815 posts 15 reps Joined Nov 2010
Wed, Apr 4, 2018 11:14 PM

I'm still amazed that all of the West Virginia teachers got a pay raise from the state of WV - not from their respective local districts' boards of education.  A friend of mine who teaches in Nashville TN told me his school doesn't have a local BOE, they have a county BOE. 

Another former high school classmate hass taught in Kentucky for almost 30 years and is now on strike.  Apparently KY can't keep teachers because a master's degree is required after something like 8 years, and many just quit when they get to that point.

 
wkfan Senior Member
1,850 posts 13 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Apr 5, 2018 8:07 AM
posted by Zunardo

I'm still amazed that all of the West Virginia teachers got a pay raise from the state of WV - not from their respective local districts' boards of education.  A friend of mine who teaches in Nashville TN told me his school doesn't have a local BOE, they have a county BOE. 

Another former high school classmate hass taught in Kentucky for almost 30 years and is now on strike.  Apparently KY can't keep teachers because a master's degree is required after something like 8 years, and many just quit when they get to that point.

 

Many states in the South have county schools, not local school districts like we have in Ohio.  I also believe that it shows in the results from many southern schools.
Spock Senior Member
5,271 posts 9 reps Joined Jul 2013
Thu, Apr 5, 2018 8:45 AM
posted by Zunardo

I'm still amazed that all of the West Virginia teachers got a pay raise from the state of WV - not from their respective local districts' boards of education.  A friend of mine who teaches in Nashville TN told me his school doesn't have a local BOE, they have a county BOE. 

Another former high school classmate hass taught in Kentucky for almost 30 years and is now on strike.  Apparently KY can't keep teachers because a master's degree is required after something like 8 years, and many just quit when they get to that point.

 

the maters requirements is a huge unfunded mandate.  THe state says "hey all your teachers have to have masters degrees" and the districts have to pay for them without any more money coming from the people that make these stupid laws.

 

Ohio did that a few years back and then took it away.
justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 250 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Apr 5, 2018 8:50 AM

My wife is getting out of public education after this school year. 
j_crazy 7 gram rocks. how i roll.
8,623 posts 30 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Apr 5, 2018 8:57 AM

My wife and kids are going to the capital today to protest with the teachers. these schools are BULLSHIT.
Spock Senior Member
5,271 posts 9 reps Joined Jul 2013
Thu, Apr 5, 2018 9:47 AM
posted by j_crazy

My wife and kids are going to the capital today to protest with the teachers. these schools are BULLSHIT.

the schools are not bullshit.  Classroom teachers and the kids havent changed for decades.  Teachers still teach and kids still do homework.  The administration, politics, funding and governing of what schools are doing is what makes everyone hate it.  
HOF on coattails Junior Member
222 posts 4 reps Joined Apr 2014
Thu, Apr 5, 2018 10:18 AM
posted by Spock

Remember education has to remain broken to get politicians elected.

Aaah, that's why you're allowed to be called a teacher.  
OSH Kosh B'Gosh
4,424 posts 18 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Apr 5, 2018 10:39 AM

Living in it right now too. My wife has been a teacher for nearly 8 years. She loves it. She's an amazing teacher, was a finalist for District Teacher of the Year in 2016-17. This Kentucky stuff, her home state, is wrecking her. Not sure if she wants to stay in teaching. Questioning what she could do instead.

Sucks.
ppaw1999 Senior Member
430 posts 8 reps Joined Oct 2010
Thu, Apr 5, 2018 10:41 AM
posted by iclfan2

Would like to know where all of the districts money go. Saw a graph the other day where admin costs are up 700% (found a similar article https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/28/school-administration-costs-soar-700-percent-1950/) is the teachers have a legit argument, but it should be blamed on the terribly ran schools, not “underfunding”. I know at my own high school we had dumbass positions like assistant athletic director, and athletic director that didn’t teach, a VP at all 3 schools instead of sharing, etc. 

Good point on the dumbass positions. I know in my area three school districts share one superintendent. BRF would know more than I do how that is working out. Makes me wonder how important that position is.

 
BRF Senior Member
11,621 posts 111 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Apr 5, 2018 12:53 PM

ppaw: Don't even get me started on that shit!
ppaw1999 Senior Member
430 posts 8 reps Joined Oct 2010
Thu, Apr 5, 2018 1:24 PM

Sorry BRF. I had no intentions of ruining your day.
BRF Senior Member
11,621 posts 111 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Apr 5, 2018 1:34 PM

Naw, I wouldn't let that a-hole ruin my day!  It's all good. :-)

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