Republicans Aren't Good, Either

I don't understand why Congress is allowed to partake in insider trading. Can somebody explain that to me?

Isn't that just illegal, period?

posted by Devils Advocate

I think he’s pulling a Pelosi because he knows they are gonna to lose the Senate again

posted by CenterBHSFan

I don't understand why Congress is allowed to partake in insider trading. Can somebody explain that to me?

Isn't that just illegal, period?

Because who is going to vote for it? They’d be voting against themselves making money. It’s absolutely crazy it’s allowed to go on.

posted by iclfan2
Looks like they should be at 51 or 52, depending on Ohio (should be one more if they didn’t run an absolute shit head in Arizona). More than likely bc he doesn’t want to stroke out on live tv multiple times again. 

That's what I was thinking. I mean, sure, it's funny as hell to watch an old guy turn into a literal zombie and have to be escorted off a podium AND then have his PR people work overtime to come up with some super-vague "all is well!" explanation, but at some point, someone had to say enough is enough in his camp.

On his way out, McConnell is trying to hold a secret ballot to determine the leader of the Senate. And is only giving them 3 options supposedly. Completely ridiculous. 

posted by iclfan2

On his way out, McConnell is trying to hold a secret ballot to determine the leader of the Senate. And is only giving them 3 options supposedly. Completely ridiculous. 

POS can't be gone fast enough. He's Pelosi/Schiff's brother from another mother.

posted by iclfan2

On his way out, McConnell is trying to hold a secret ballot to determine the leader of the Senate. And is only giving them 3 options supposedly. Completely ridiculous. 

This is just the kind of fuckery that everybody is sick and tired of. I've been saying for years that MM is the worst and this proves it. 

Congress, led by a Republican Speaker, wants to increase their pay in this 1500 page CR bill.

They need to go find themselves.

posted by CenterBHSFan

Congress, led by a Republican Speaker, wants to increase their pay in this 1500 page CR bill.

They need to go find themselves.

Well, Trump and Musk came out against it and now it is dead. Johnson had a deal to increase farm aid for R states as well as more natural disaster aid. Because of that, Democrats added items to help their folks and to help clear the D Senate.

That was too much for them apparently..so shutdown is possible in 2 days...

Trump also wants a debt ceiling increase now, instead of March when it is due, because he wants it under Biden not him. 

It's funny, it's like they don't acknowledge for this they need Democrats from the Senate and the Democrats are not going to agree to just a straight Republican bill from the House.

Next year is going to be so much fun in Congress! What a shitshow

In the whole scheme of things Congress does not get paid that much.  If you are there and not independently wealthy you are open to corruption.  If you are there and independently wealthy likely not there to serve the common man.

I'd triple congress's salary if they agreed to term limits.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Well, Trump and Musk came out against it and now it is dead. Johnson had a deal to increase farm aid for R states as well as more natural disaster aid. Because of that, Democrats added items to help their folks and to help clear the D Senate.

That was too much for them apparently..so shutdown is possible in 2 days...

Trump also wants a debt ceiling increase now, instead of March when it is due, because he wants it under Biden not him. 

It's funny, it's like they don't acknowledge for this they need Democrats from the Senate and the Democrats are not going to agree to just a straight Republican bill from the House.

Next year is going to be so much fun in Congress! What a shitshow

Dems are also defending the pay raise. I should have mentioned that in my prior post, but I was walking into work and forgot. Was just in a rush. 

The whole bill is goofy and people from both sides of the aisle are tired of it. 

Massie predicted 3 months ago that this was going to happen. Almost line by line. 

posted by majorspark

In the whole scheme of things Congress does not get paid that much.  If you are there and not independently wealthy you are open to corruption.  If you are there and independently wealthy likely not there to serve the common man.

I'd triple congress's salary if they agreed to term limits.

While I agree to terms limits/age caps, I am against them getting a pay raise of any sort. As long as taxpayers have to keep funding wars without any declaration of war, DC shouldn't get even a penny raise. As long as these politicians put themselves before their constituents, I will always be against it. They don't deserve it. 

posted by CenterBHSFan

Dems are also defending the pay raise. I should have mentioned that in my prior post, but I was walking into work and forgot. Was just in a rush. 

The whole bill is goofy and people from both sides of the aisle are tired of it. 

Massie predicted 3 months ago that this was going to happen. Almost line by line. 

Well, the bill is on Johnson then as the speaker for opening up additional funding outside a clean CR. 

But, to his credit, he did that for good reasons. Remember that natural disaster funding you were calling for? Well, that was part of it.

Same goes for funding for farmers in this drought of a season.

Once that is opened up, the Democrats, which still control a chamber of Congress, were wanting to also include items like the new Baltimore Bridge, allowing the DC stadium to move forward, and both sides on the pay raise.

It also had a really good thing on limiting pharmacy benefit managers.

You may not like, but this is how CRs work when you are off budget cycle. Johnson was trying to get this though so he can focus on the next budget with Trump and working on installing a new House, but now, nope, have to waste time and potentially shut down the government before the holidays. 

You want a clean CR, fine, but people that need that natural disaster relief may not get it. 

Next year is going to be such a mess as the Republicans try to govern with such a small majority and reacting to whatever Musk or Trump tweet or say.

I’m tired of bills filled with junk. It may be the ways things get done but it needs to change. I don’t care a or a raise but 40% is stupid. They our voting to give themselves better healthcare until they fix regulars people’s healthcare they can live just like we do. I also don’t want to fund a stadium that 99.99% of people will get zero value from. The excuse that this is how things get done doesn’t make it right.

posted by sportchampps

I’m tired of bills filled with junk. It may be the ways things get done but it needs to change. I don’t care a or a raise but 40% is stupid. They our voting to give themselves better healthcare until they fix regulars people’s healthcare they can live just like we do. I also don’t want to fund a stadium that 99.99% of people will get zero value from. The excuse that this is how things get done doesn’t make it right.

Johnson opened it up to give more farmers aid and to increase disaster funding. In order to pass the Democratic Senate and be signed by a Democratic President, the Ds attached their own bills.

The stadium portion isn't any funding, it is to allow the transfer of the land where RFK is to be redeveloped for the Commanders.

This whole thing is funny now. Trump has now said we should get rid of the debt ceiling..I'm sure the freedom caucus loves that. 

This is giant self own by the Republicans....if they just would have passed this CR to March, they can then be in a much better position to get their policy and budget items than now, where the Democrats hold the Senate and Presidency, and they aren't moving in this mess. They are just fine with a government shutdown over the holidays and blaming the dumpster fire that is the Republican House.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Johnson opened it up to give more farmers aid and to increase disaster funding. In order to pass the Democratic Senate and be signed by a Democratic President, the Ds attached their own bills.

The stadium portion isn't any funding, it is to allow the transfer of the land where RFK is to be redeveloped for the Commanders.

This whole thing is funny now. Trump has now said we should get rid of the debt ceiling..I'm sure the freedom caucus loves that. 

This is giant self own by the Republicans....if they just would have passed this CR to March, they can then be in a much better position to get their policy and budget items than now, where the Democrats hold the Senate and Presidency aren't moving. They are just fine with a government shutdown over the holidays and blaming the dumpster fire that is the Republican House.

You don’t see anything different between farm aid, rebuilding a bridge, hurricane relief and giving your self a raise. Just because he opened it doesn’t mean everyone should rush to sneak in and include their own personal interests that’s what’s wrong with our government. 

posted by sportchampps

You don’t see anything different between farm aid, rebuilding a bridge, hurricane relief and giving your self a raise. Just because he opened it doesn’t mean everyone should rush to sneak in and include their own personal interests that’s what’s wrong with our government. 

Oh, I agree with your sentiment...but tanking it now makes no sense. 

The Republicans hold zero leverage. 

If they would have punted this 3 months, they would be in a much better position to tackle these issues.

It's like the Republicans forget they only control the House right now...

The reason I started this thread in the first place. The Republicans lick balls. 

The Republicans and MAGA need to do the same things that the Dems need to do, which is to erase the chalkboard, get rid of their current framework of thinking and start get new glasses so they can see from a more simple perspective. 

But that's definitely not going to happen with Johnson.

posted by CenterBHSFan

The reason I started this thread in the first place. The Republicans lick balls. 

The Republicans and MAGA need to do the same things that the Dems need to do, which is to erase the chalkboard, get rid of their current framework of thinking and start get new glasses so they can see from a more simple perspective. 

But that's definitely not going to happen with Johnson.

Agreed not happy with Johnson. Although he is better then some of the alt

posted by CenterBHSFan

The reason I started this thread in the first place. The Republicans lick balls. 

The Republicans and MAGA need to do the same things that the Dems need to do, which is to erase the chalkboard, get rid of their current framework of thinking and start get new glasses so they can see from a more simple perspective. 

But that's definitely not going to happen with Johnson.

Do that when it is not the holidays and Republicans have Congress and the Presidency....