Impressed by the Trump administration part II

friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 12, 2018 10:42 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Doesn't matter what the President says or does to many Republicans. As long as the market is going, all is forgiven. It is like suddenly the imperial President does not exist. 
 

Doesn't need to exist when his retard fanboys are too busy claiming there was no correlation between the stock market/president until Trump was elected. 

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Fri, Jan 12, 2018 10:51 AM
posted by Spock

that may be the case from 1940-2008.  But the market sure as hell did responde to Obama / Trump merely on the fact of who was in the WH.

Yeah, from looking it up, it seemed to go up massively under Obama until stalling over his last year or so. Which means I don't think you actually were making the point you were trying to, but that's no surprise.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 12, 2018 10:53 AM

The statists are losing their minds as The People once again see how free markets can work for the benefit of all once BIG government interference and control are abated.  

If you appreciate freedom, get on the train. 

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 12, 2018 10:54 AM
posted by salto

Hope you're ready to sell, before it ends.

 

The equity market never goes up and to the right in a perfectly straight line.  Pullbacks and backfilling are necessary.  

Stay alert. 

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Fri, Jan 12, 2018 10:56 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

I’m a republican who didn’t vote for trump. I’m aware that the market has very little coorelation to who the sitting President is. But I am also not blind to the fact that Trump has been involved in several policy and economical decisions that have helped the country. If you can’t see that he has done SOME good so far, then you’re no different than the blind alt right idiots who wouldn’t EVER give Obama a single praise for anything. 

I'd agree with that. I'd also say that if Trump showed some degree of common sense and would let his policies speak for themselves over the period of a month or two instead of being a fucking moron on Twitter every single day about something, he'd do wonders for his approval ratings. But when people have to deal with "complete asshole; might be insane" comments by him, it gets harder to focus on actual good things he's doing.

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Fri, Jan 12, 2018 10:58 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Doesn't matter what the President says or does to many Republicans. As long as the market is going, all is forgiven. It is like suddenly the imperial President does not exist. 
 

I just sit back and enjoy the little things, such as how all the people who constantly commented on Obama's golfing and how he was only good at campaigning don't seem to have anything to say about how Trump lives on the links and feels a compulsive need to hold pep rallies for himself somewhat regularly.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 12, 2018 11:07 AM
posted by Heretic

I'd agree with that. I'd also say that if Trump showed some degree of common sense and would let his policies speak for themselves over the period of a month or two instead of being a fucking moron on Twitter every single day about something, he'd do wonders for his approval ratings. But when people have to deal with "complete asshole; might be insane" comments by him, it gets harder to focus on actual good things he's doing.

I cannot disagree, at least to a certain extent.  I would say if he eliminated the 40% if his tweets/comments that do him no good, he would be helping himself to some degree.  However, the resistors/marxists, will never, ever, give him an ounce of credit for anything; they are all in negative, all the time.

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Fri, Jan 12, 2018 11:09 AM
posted by QuakerOats

I cannot disagree, at least to a certain extent.  I would say if he eliminated the 40% if his tweets/comments that do him no good, he would be helping himself to some degree.  However, the resistors/marxists, will never, ever, give him an ounce of credit for anything; they are all in negative, all the time.

Just like you the last eight years!

Devils Advocate Brudda o da bomber
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Fri, Jan 12, 2018 11:47 AM
posted by QuakerOats

I cannot disagree, at least to a certain extent.  I would say if he eliminated the 40% if his tweets/comments that do him no good, he would be helping himself to some degree.  However, the resistors/marxists, will never, ever, give him an ounce of credit for anything; they are all in negative, all the time.

 

Trump has no credibility, due mostly because of his tweets and fake news that he creates. The man throws a fit because of his own shit..... or shitholes.... or what the fuck ever.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 12, 2018 11:55 AM

South Korean president credits Trump for getting NK to thaw a bit and have talks. 

 

Not mentioned at all by left-stream media. 

 

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 12, 2018 11:56 AM

Dow up another 200 points currently ..............just fyi

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 12, 2018 11:57 AM
posted by Heretic

Just like you the last eight years!

Why would any freedom loving, free market American give credit to a prez who spent 8 years shackling The People and businesses with a marxist policy agenda.  You are either on the right side of the page, or the wrong side. 

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 12, 2018 12:06 PM
posted by QuakerOats

Why would any freedom loving, free market American give credit to a prez who spent 8 years shackling The People and businesses with a marxist policy agenda.  You are either on the right side of the page, or the wrong side. 

"The People" - what is it with you?  

 

Trump is a dishonest narcissist who does not seem to have a grasp on geopolitics.  

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Fri, Jan 12, 2018 12:13 PM
posted by QuakerOats

Why would any freedom loving, free market American give credit to a prez who spent 8 years shackling The People and businesses with a marxist policy agenda.  You are either on the right side of the page, or the wrong side. 

Yep, you're the exact same kind of person that you are criticizing. Enjoy living in your own hypocrisy!

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 12, 2018 12:17 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

"The People" - what is it with you?  

 

Trump is a dishonest narcissist who does not seem to have a grasp on geopolitics.  

I am not of fan of his personality, as I have stated many times.  His policies are correct, and that is what matters right now in getting our country back on track. 

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 12, 2018 12:52 PM
posted by QuakerOats

I am not of fan of his personality, as I have stated many times.  His policies are correct, and that is what matters right now in getting our country back on track. 

"Not a fan of his personality" - what's that supposed to mean?  

 

Trump is "The Emporer's New Clothes" playing itself out in front of us.  It is way too early into his administration to be able to connect his activities with the performance of the economy.  

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 12, 2018 1:51 PM

If you are unable to make the correlation between his policies and policy agenda with the resulting high levels of confidence among businesses and consumers, which drives investment and innovation, then I can't help you. 

gut Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 12, 2018 1:55 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

It is way too early into his administration to be able to connect his activities with the performance of the economy.  

Normally I would agree.  But the anti-growth policies of Obama and how businesses and the economy were reacting is pretty well documented if you go outside the usual liberal rags.

And normally I'd agree it takes a good 18-24 months to see the impact of a shift in policy/direction.  However, I think it's pretty unmistakeable that businesses and the economy have responded very positively to expected policy changes.  That is unusual, but then so was the climate out there after 8 years of Obama with an expectation of 8 more years with Hillary.

Put another way, there was a sort of self-fulfilling acceptance of the "new normal".....but, intentionally or otherwise, Trump has shattered that and businesses and consumers are realizing we can and are doing better.  And it's a good thing we don't have media and faux economists convincing us the best we can do is 2% in an effort to prop-up liberal policies and Democrat leaders.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 12, 2018 3:33 PM
posted by QuakerOats

If you are unable to make the correlation between his policies and policy agenda with the resulting high levels of confidence among businesses and consumers, which drives investment and innovation, then I can't help you. 

You sound like Ayn Rands.  Anyway, I will wait to judge his impact over time, not in the near term.  For God's sake, he's given himself credit for many things that have happened during this past year that had nothing to do with him (e.g. the Pennsylvania coal mine, Foxcon, the Toyoda/Mazda plant in AL).  Those things were in the works long before he came along.  It can be argued that moves like thos are what help create growth momentum in the markets.  

Spock Senior Member
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Fri, Jan 12, 2018 4:11 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

"The People" - what is it with you?  

 

Trump is a dishonest narcissist who does not seem to have a grasp on geopolitics.  

Do you think the average voter cares about "geopolitics?"  No they don't.

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