2024 Presidential Election Thread

Now even Democrats and never-Trumpers are starting to call out the lies about the Trump/Cheney lies, because it's so outrageous.

posted by CenterBHSFan

Because there is no way to hold them accountable for anything. Can't vote out somebody that was unelected in the first place.

But is there accountability now? Are there people creating these for fairness now or are they creating to make things work for their party?

posted by geeblock

Does any trump voter want to just stay home and I will just stay home and we can cancel each others vote and save 2 hrs each?

I’m going to vote in under 18 minutes

So in the past week or so, Tim Walz has referred to Elon Musk as a "dipshit" and "that gay guy" in two different speeches (Musk has 12 kids, btw). How long do you think it would take (to get cancelled) if JD Vance said something like that (second part) about someone like Mark Cuban?

I think Liz Cheney should invite the Donald on a hunting trip with her dad

posted by Devils Advocate

I think Liz Cheney should invite the Donald on a hunting trip with her dad

It's funny because, thinking back, I am not sure I ever understood exactly what happened that day. Might be just fuzzy memory or maybe the details were never fully expressed on the news? I don't know lol

posted by Ironman92

But is there accountability now? Are there people creating these for fairness now or are they creating to make things work for their party?

I'm not as informed on gerrymandering as others might be, and I've never taken the time to fill in what I don't know. But I do know that politicians do it and that's bad enough. At least politicians on both sides come and go according to the needs of the people. With an appointed group, the people have no part of the process at all and that's something that doesn't sit well with me. We have enough of that horse shit going on in DC, we don't need more of it at the state level.

posted by CenterBHSFan

I'm not as informed on gerrymandering as others might be

Everyone will gerrymander.  Whats at hand is who holds the power. Your instincts are correct. 

I have asked what is wrong with the current maps.  I have asked about recourse.  One would think with egregious gerrymandering occurring it would be easy to point it out on the map.  

posted by majorspark

I have asked this question before.  What problem do you have with the maps?  What districts are unjustly gerrymandered?  Point them out.

Why not try this.  Ptown also said this.  I have asked what is our recourse if we don't like how the "citizens" commission draws its lines?

No answers yet on either.  Only a fool acts on "why not try this".

If you can't see a problem with Jordan's district, you aren't looking very hard.

posted by iclfan2

Oh fuck! January 6th! Don’t worry about the illegal immigrants killing our citizens. Super cereal DC things. Shit ain’t gonna work anymore. 

U really drink all the koolaid 

posted by CenterBHSFan

It's funny because, thinking back, I am not sure I ever understood exactly what happened that day. Might be just fuzzy memory or maybe the details were never fully expressed on the news? I don't know lol

Cheney was hammered and shot a guy, then the guy said he walked in front of the shot (and he actually apologized to Dick for the inconvenience) 

Reason #8000 of "why is Dick Cheney a piece of shit"

posted by queencitybuckeye

If you can't see a problem with Jordan's district, you aren't looking very hard.

Other than Jim Jordan is a douche not that much of a problem.  District 5 where you have Loraine on the lake just west of Cleveland in a district with rural agricultural communities on the northwestern border with Indiana is quite a bit more sketchy.  

Lets not throw the baby out with the bath water.  An unelected politburo is not the answer here.  In my opinion term limits would be a reasonable remedy.  I am talking US reps so it would take a national effort.  Ohio state reps are already limited.  Although I believe that its just consecutive terms and you can be limited out of one senate/house and hit up the other side.

https://www.ohiosos.gov/elections/ohio-candidates/district-maps/

posted by Trueblue23

Reason #8000 of "why is Dick Cheney a piece of shit"

You got to wonder who croaked waiting on the transplant list so that Dick could have the heart that beats in his chest.

Wifeguy type 

https://x.com/philthatremains/status/1852705671717744932

So who is everyone picking to win?  Not who you want to win, but think will win.

I say Trump

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

So who is everyone picking to win?  Not who you want to win, but think will win.

I say Trump

Kamala will win. I've said this since day one.

posted by CenterBHSFan

Kamala will win. I've said this since day one.

If she does, it's a testament to the power of the American media machine.  They took a horrible candidate from 2020 and made her VP (for obvious reasons), and then when she was most unpopular VP in American history, they installed her as the POTUS nominee because they knew the sitting President couldn't win.

I think the next few days might be the most outrageous we have ever seen from Dems and media. 

The fact that they are working in tandem with each other telling the story that Trump wants Liz Cheney to be executed, and people believing it, is a testament to just how powerful their hold on people really is.

If I were a Republican strategist, I'd study the hell out of this!