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superman
Posts: 3,582
Jul 30, 2017 8:33pm
He is a warmongering pos.isadore;1864621 wrote:He was a hero then and a hero now, voting for the American people and resist the bullying of Donald, the loudmouth coward.
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Posts: 1,799
Jul 30, 2017 9:19pm
Why do you have such hate? A guy with a different opinion than yours made a vote. So what?superman;1864638 wrote:He is a warmongering pos.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jul 30, 2017 9:25pm
It's actually refreshing to see a few people in the Senate finally NOT blindly follow the party. Otherwise, why do we even have primaries and vote for individuals? Just check Democrat or Republican? I want to vote for an individual with solutions, not a broken party agenda.Dr Winston O'Boogie;1864642 wrote:Why do you have such hate? A guy with a different opinion than yours made a vote. So what?
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Posts: 1,799
Jul 30, 2017 9:30pm
I agree. The anger may be because these votes are making Trump look like a fool, but that's okay. This idea that you have to vote with the party is part of the reason our government is so poorly regarded by a big part of the electorate.gut;1864644 wrote:It's actually refreshing to see a few people in the Senate finally NOT blindly follow the party. Otherwise, why do we even have primaries and vote for individuals? Just check Democrat or Republican? I want to vote for an individual with solutions, not a broken party agenda.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jul 30, 2017 9:40pm
I agree. If there's one thing you can count on McCain to do, it's be BIG FUCKING MILITARY ALL DAY --- essentially the right-wing version of welfare leeches as far as financial drain goes.superman;1864638 wrote:He is a warmongering pos.
I also agree. There's no point in even having a non-dictator government if everyone goes strict party line all the time. Just leads to a couple years of Rs in control and everyone getting sick of their shit and then a couple years of Ds in control and everyone getting sick of their shit. Wash, rinse, repeat. Which essentially is what we have now, so it's cool just to see people cross the party line borders occasionally. Almost gives you hope -- at least if you've drank enough, lol.gut;1864644 wrote:It's actually refreshing to see a few people in the Senate finally NOT blindly follow the party. Otherwise, why do we even have primaries and vote for individuals? Just check Democrat or Republican? I want to vote for an individual with solutions, not a broken party agenda.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Jul 30, 2017 9:41pm
McCain and his actions are basically a way for the establishment republicans trying to get their party back. It has nothing to do with health care
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jul 30, 2017 9:44pm
Apparenty 95 votes to repeal or whatever didn't have much to do with healthcare, either.Spock;1864649 wrote:McCain and his actions are basically a way for the establishment republicans trying to get their party back. It has nothing to do with health care
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Jul 30, 2017 10:00pm
I hate anyone who sends young men off to die. It has nothing to do with the healthcare vote.Dr Winston O'Boogie;1864642 wrote:Why do you have such hate? A guy with a different opinion than yours made a vote. So what?
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Posts: 1,799
Jul 31, 2017 10:34am
Are you saying you hate every president we've had?superman;1864653 wrote:I hate anyone who sends young men off to die. It has nothing to do with the healthcare vote.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Jul 31, 2017 11:46am
You need to read a history book.Dr Winston O'Boogie;1864694 wrote:Are you saying you hate every president we've had?
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Posts: 1,799
Jul 31, 2017 12:02pm
Got any recommendations?superman;1864709 wrote:You need to read a history book.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jul 31, 2017 12:05pm
He put his life on the line for the country as did his grandfather, father and sons, you and trump are the pos.superman;1864638 wrote:He is a warmongering pos.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jul 31, 2017 12:15pm
McCain has the courage of his convictions, being willing to put his life and his sons lives on the line for the nation, some a Trump will never do.superman;1864653 wrote:I hate anyone who sends young men off to die. It has nothing to do with the healthcare vote.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Jul 31, 2017 1:36pm
Actually McCain just fucked America, all because he wanted revenge against Trump.
But that is what jackass politicians in DC do.
Drain the swamp!
But that is what jackass politicians in DC do.
Drain the swamp!
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Jul 31, 2017 2:28pm
this is 100% true. Just last year he was screaming for repeal just like that dumbass women in alaska.QuakerOats;1864722 wrote:Actually McCain just fucked America, all because he wanted revenge against Trump.
But that is what jackass politicians in DC do.
Drain the swamp!
We are just screwed. Insurance is going to skyrocket now.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Jul 31, 2017 2:45pm
I guess Trump will just have to find a way to eliminate the insurance company 'bailouts', and force the issue. This ain't over.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Jul 31, 2017 3:25pm
I'm not sure how Trump can force Congress to have the same insurance as everyone else, but I think that's a wonderful idea.
I have no idea what congressional health plans look like but in a previous life I was involved with executive health plans that were super secret and covered things like swimming pools. I wonder if Congress has anything like that.
I have no idea what congressional health plans look like but in a previous life I was involved with executive health plans that were super secret and covered things like swimming pools. I wonder if Congress has anything like that.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jul 31, 2017 4:13pm
good bye Mr. Scaramucci wherever you are.QuakerOats;1864722 wrote:Actually McCain just fucked America, all because he wanted revenge against Trump.
But that is what jackass politicians in DC do.
Drain the swamp!
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Jul 31, 2017 9:59pm
Congressional carve out a for insurance can't be eliminated by trump. The Congress votes for a 73% benefit coverage for them after the law was passed so an executive order can eliminate that and their secret plans.FatHobbit;1864742 wrote:I'm not sure how Trump can force Congress to have the same insurance as everyone else, but I think that's a wonderful idea.
I have no idea what congressional health plans look like but in a previous life I was involved with executive health plans that were super secret and covered things like swimming pools. I wonder if Congress has anything like that.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jul 31, 2017 11:02pm
I thought the "bailout" provisions sunset at the end of 2015 (maybe 2014), which is why companies started dropping out of the exchanges left and right.QuakerOats;1864737 wrote:I guess Trump will just have to find a way to eliminate the insurance company 'bailouts', and force the issue. This ain't over.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Aug 1, 2017 10:22am
Which might be why the continuing bailouts are illegal ................but that never stopped the obama admin before
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Posts: 1,799
Aug 1, 2017 10:35am
He isn't the president any longer. I remember when Obama's administration would blame Bush for stuff and Bush's supporters would get incensed about it. Stick to that standard.QuakerOats;1864851 wrote:Which might be why the continuing bailouts are illegal ................but that never stopped the obama admin before
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Aug 1, 2017 1:07pm
Obama did it for 8 years on everything. Trump doing it for 8 months on this 1 thing would be more than fair.Dr Winston O'Boogie;1864853 wrote:He isn't the president any longer. I remember when Obama's administration would blame Bush for stuff and Bush's supporters would get incensed about it. Stick to that standard.
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Posts: 1,799
Aug 1, 2017 1:18pm
However it's being practiced, it is weak. It's weak for any administration to keep pointing backwards. That goes for dem or rep.superman;1864865 wrote:Obama did it for 8 years on everything. Trump doing it for 8 months on this 1 thing would be more than fair.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 1, 2017 2:00pm
Wasn't it extended?gut;1864828 wrote:I thought the "bailout" provisions sunset at the end of 2015 (maybe 2014), which is why companies started dropping out of the exchanges left and right.
Nice to see you act righteous and fair now. : thumbup:Dr Winston O'Boogie;1864866 wrote:However it's being practiced, it is weak. It's weak for any administration to keep pointing backwards. That goes for dem or rep.